Doesn't really take anything to counter "There's a penis" when there's literally not a penis. That's usually enough: the fact it's factually and demonstrably untrue.
See point before about sophistry and how your argument really should be making little difference.
Are you really going to argue that there is a vast difference between a character sucking on a fake penis vs a person sucking on a natural penis?
Sorry, you believe anything sexual in nature is pornography?
So, nature documentaries, sex-ed classes, all pornography?
Human and designed more for entertainment which yeh that book is.
That's literally not true. The books weren't banned.
She directed them to the public library.
No part of this situation is about whether the school library should carry them or not.
From the article that kicked this off
An Oklahoma Teacher Fought the Book-Banning Right and Lost Her Job
....
An Oklahoma English teacher helped students apply for library cards so they could read banned books
....
Her crime was helping her students apply for library cards so they could read banned books.
....
the initiative includes a link to report attempts to take books off the shelf, one where teens can get help finding frequently banned books at their local public library.....
........
The original wording of the bill doesn’t include the word “book,” although the HB 1775 Emergency Rules available on Oklahoma’s state government website ominously include “librarians” among the school employees who can lose their jobs if they’re held to have violated the law. In any case, any doubt about whether Boismier was right to suspect that the law could be used to ban books was immediately removed when she was suspended from her job, under suspicion of violating HB 1775, for — again, this is really all she did — telling her students about banned books and giving them a link where they could apply for a library card.
......
There are a lot of things you can say about a political movement that gets this furious about an English teacher helping her students check banned books out of the library. But you certainly can’t say it values free speech.
Sorry what was that about the books not being banned?
This doesn't address what was said. You said she wasn't suspended. That's factually untrue. Don't just start talking about other stuff. Acknowledge your mistake.
Pretty sure I said she wasn't fired. Which she wasn't, she chose to quite before the investigation finished.
As I pointed out before yeh teachers will get suspended pending investigation, would you prefer they have a few more weeks in the classroom to potentially cause harm or push things they're not supposed to while the committee decide if they have enough evidence to act so actual bad actor can and will take it as 2 more weeks to act with basically impunity before anything happens?
This doesn't address what was said either. You said it's about the school library carrying these books, and thus it impacts the school budget. That's factually untrue. Don't just start talking about other stuff. Acknowledge your mistake.
Care to explain to me how you believe school library books are not part of a schools budget again?
Part of the issue is said books are banned in school libraries or according to you in contradiction to the article that started this not banned.
Either you once again failed to read what I said or you're deliberately misrepresenting what I said by applying a context it was never said in.
So care to explain how it's factually untrue that school library books are part of the school budget if it's an actual school only library? Because unless I'm mistaken the magical money fairy doesn't cover the cost of school books for school libraries.
And hilarious to see you realise quite how little you really know about what you're talking about because I've seen the other side of this and had friends who had to struggle within said systems because they were at schools with lets say more strict rules that the hilarity of what's being objected to here. Welcome to the job of teaching where in the classroom you are a teacher first an a fully formed human 2nd and the 2nd part is barely allowed to exist in that classroom.
