Top female Twitch streamer Amouranth stream turns dark as an apparent abusive husband comes to light

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Wasn't that Paragon Fury? He's the one I immediately associate with talking about breasts an inordinate amount.


Ah, I miss him.

You probably owe Dreiko an apology.
Ha ha shit, you're right I do mix those guys up, which is probably unpleasant for all parties.

Dreiko, I'm sorry I thought you were ParagonFury, you can legally think about his mum's boobs as much as you like. No! That's too much!
 

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So you believe the accuser is guilty until proven innocent? Thanks for saying it out loud.
We actually are not analyzing the guilt of the accuser, only of the accused. You really have to focus on that.


The moment you make an accusation, the person you accused gets to make an accusation back at you, that you're lying and slandering them, so now you're also someone who is being accused of something.


Your "believe the victim" attitude is contradictory because it necessitates believing the assault claims and the slander claims, simultaneously, which is a paradox and can not be. Unless somewhere deep down you don't consider people who are slandered as "real" victims or something.
 

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The moment you make an accusation, the person you accused gets to make an accusation back at you, that you're lying and slandering them, so now you're also someone who is being accused of something
Yeah but you assume the innocence of the accused and the guilt of the accuser. You're not giving Amouranth the same benefit of the doubt you are her husband. Your shit's transparent as fuck and I don't know who you think you're fooling.

Your "believe the victim" attitude is contradictory because it necessitates believing the assault claims and the slander claims, simultaneously, which is a paradox and can not be. Unless somewhere deep down you don't consider people who are slandered as "real" victims or something.
Actually I called for reserving judgement. So you can back that "your attitude" shit right the fuck up.

It's you guys who are openly attacking the character of the accuser. I made no comments on either party. But you were right out thw gate making judgements of her guilt based purely on your judgement of her character.

And you know what? I guarantee that if this went to court and her husband was found guilty you'd question the verdict.
 

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We actually are not analyzing the guilt of the accuser, only of the accused. You really have to focus on that.
No, you said that you're assuming the accuser is lying until shown otherwise. Don't try to weasel out of it now that you've been called out.
 
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It's you guys who are openly attacking the character of the accuser.
I have said several times that my doubts originate from her previous shady acts. I questioned her character because she has a history of things that warrent her character being questioned.


And you know what? I guarantee that if this went to court and her husband was found guilty you'd question the verdict
I also said i would glady eat crow and admit being wrong if this happens.

I dont not think questioning the acuser is wrong. In fact it is the first thing that the police do when investigating things like this. They ask questions to get the full story. They also look at evidence and report history if such things exist.
 

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I have said several times that my doubts originate from her previous shady acts. I questioned her character because she has a history of things that warrent her character being questioned.




I also said i would glady eat crow and admit being wrong if this happens.

I dont not think questioning the acuser is wrong. In fact it is the first thing that the police do when investigating things like this. They ask questions to get the full story. They also look at evidence and report history if such things exist.
You're not "questionimg the accuser" you are default assuming her guilt based on how you feel about her character. Again, questioning would be reserving judgement but you have decided she is guilty.
 
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You're not "questionimg the accuser" you are default assuming her guilt based on how you feel about her character. Again, questioning would be reserving judgement but you have decided she is guilty.
Guilty of what? Im not acusing her of anything except lying, based off a history of doing it.

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? When you lie it is harder for believe to believe you even if you tell the truth.
 

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Im not acusing her of anything except lying, based off a history of doing it.

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? When you lie it is harder for believe to believe you even if you tell the truth.
No, but you've been kind of dead set against her to begin with, because she was "just another Twitch girl". Assuming the worst, just cuz and partially not seeing her as an actual person. Not to mention assuming and trying to make decisions for her when just getting out of a bad and abusive relationship. So you did all that.

I don't care how much you dislike them, but they are still people like anyone else. I'm not defending jackasses, nor assholes on the internet, but you have problems with certain types of women on the Internet. Regardless if they done anything wrong or not. I don't like Twitch either, but going after the ladies ain't going to do much.
 
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No, but you've been kind of dead set against her to begin with, because she was " just another Twitch girl".
Bullshit. i never called her "just another Twitch girl". I based everything I said about her, from her previous controversies and actions. Nothing about whether she's a E-girl or not.
Not to mention assuming and trying to make decisions for her when just getting out of a bad and abusive relationship.
I made suggestions, and I asked questions. I don't know how hard or how easy it is or isn't to deal with an abusive relationship. I can only see what's been shown and what's happened thus far. I find the series of events very odd. Maybe to you it seems normal or at least unquestionable, but it's internet drama and I'm just talking about it.

I'm not defending jackasses, nor assholes on the internet, but you have problems with certain type of women on the Internet.
I don't really know why you say that. I don't have problems with the women, I have problems with the platform that doesn't adhere to the rule of their own platform. I don't give two fucks about girls making a living on Only Fans or whatever. You are deliberately misrepresenting what I've said, just so you can call me out on it. Don't do that.
 
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Bullshit. i never called her "just another Twitch girl". I based everything I said about her, from her previous controversies and actions. Nothing about whether she's a E-girl or not.
No, but your attitude carries it. Even if it's just a little.


I made suggestions, and I asked questions. I don't know how hard or how easy it is or isn't to deal with an abusive relationship. I can only see what's been shown and what's happened thus far. I find the series of events very odd. Maybe to you it seems normal or at least unquestionable, but it's internet drama and I'm just talking about it.
Those "suggestions" were more like speaking for her, or assuming/wanting high expectations on what she's going to do. I don't see everything on Twitch normal by the way, and I know it's internet drama. That's why it's just best what the dust settle and let the actual police detectives handle this and investigate. The evidence is going to speak for itself either way.
I don't really know why you say that.
Because you don't exactly make it easy. Sometimes you are clear, and other times you are just as vague or not really that helpful. Don't act that oblivious.

I don't give two fucks about girls making a living on Only Fans or whatever. You are deliberately misrepresenting what I've said, just so you can call me out on it. Don't do that.
For a guy who doesn't give two fucks about someone else's Only Fans, you're more than happy to question "She's gonna give it up right? Right?!". That was you. I'm not misrepresenting anything. So you can tone it down on the persecution complex right now. And don't give me that whole, "I'm just asking questions/I'm making conversation!" excuse.

So how about we all leave the woman alone, let the professional detectives and investigators figure out what's going on? Because this whole asinine speculation bullcrap does nothing.
 
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For someone it doesn't give two fucks about someone's Only Fans, you're more than happy to question "She's gonna give it up right? Right?!". That was you. I'm not misrepresenting anything. So you can tone it down on the persecution complex right now. And don't give me that whole, " I'm just asking questions." excuse.

So how about we all leave the woman alone, let the detectives and investigators figure out what's going on? Because this whole asinine speculation bullcrap does nothing.
One might also note that this is hardly the first thread in which they've displayed this attitude either.
 

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Amouranth imo has done nothing but be shady about all of this.
This is some B-tier "body language expert" shit, and it means nothing because (contrary to what a bunch of Youtube hacks more desperate than any e-girl might have told you) you can't actually reliably interpret someone's mental state from their behavior or reactions, especially if someone is traumatized.

Ah, I miss him.
Truly a coomer before his time.
 

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We actually are not analyzing the guilt of the accuser, only of the accused. You really have to focus on that.


The moment you make an accusation, the person you accused gets to make an accusation back at you, that you're lying and slandering them, so now you're also someone who is being accused of something.


Your "believe the victim" attitude is contradictory because it necessitates believing the assault claims and the slander claims, simultaneously, which is a paradox and can not be. Unless somewhere deep down you don't consider people who are slandered as "real" victims or something.
No. The police, and society in general, do analyse the potential guilt of the accuser. In every single case

For example, in a rape case you HAVE to prove that a rape happens. In a theft case, you HAVE to prove that a theft happened. In a murder case, you have to show a body.

And I do say potential guilt because maybe the accuser is using the wrong terminology or it doesn't reach the bar of a particular crime. So they might notbe guilty, they may just be wrong. Eg. Hunter Biden earn a bunch of money off his father name/position. At this time, there seems to be no collaboration to get policies through so Hunter can score big. (The GOP did a 87 page document saying as such.) That doesn't mean the whole situation isn't dodgy and maybe would SHOULD make laws to stop this from happening. But the current accusations don't reach anything criminal.

This is separate from the Hunter tax evasion where there is evidence of him breaking the law. The same accusers are right about one case and not the other. Nor do I think it's wrong for accusers to question Hunter's business dealings, even if it ends up not being criminal