Also, if you have seen some of the real body cam footage, it is highly unlikely that a civilian would ever have the time to pick up a bat before being shot
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And remember: In the US, if you harm a cop after they break into your home without announcing themselves as police, you will be prosecuted for it, as you just should have known that they were police.
I wasn't talking about what is "seen as bad". There are billions of people on this planet all of whom will form their own ethical beliefs. The accusation was that you personally view sexual pleasure as bad. Because there is absolutely no way you could argue that this book promotes the selfish pursuit of sexual pleasure without deliberately misunderstanding it. In fact, you seem profoundly unwilling to believe that there can be such a thing as sexual pleasure that is not selfish.
I mean, I don't know how aware you are of this, but giving a handjob isn't very pleasurable for most people..
For the vast majority of the history of "western society", your beliefs about the nature of sin would have been considered profoundly at odds with the values of that society. Simultaneously your beliefs about sexuality would have been considered deeply weird and prudish.
There is an extremely clear cut orthodoxy on this point. Sex outside of marriage is sinful, sex inside of marriage for the purposes of procreation is not and thus lust is essentially synonymous with extramarital or recreational sex.
However, humanity exists in a state of perpetual sin that can only be redressed through divine intercession. No human can live without sin, and only a few can hope to live with any kind of virtue. Thus, for hundreds of years, the catholic church was responsible for licensing brothels, because the concern was not the impossible task of eradicating sin but containing it. Women who worked as prostitutes were seen to exist in a state of sin, they were treated horrifically and if they died unrepentant they could not be buried in consecrated ground (their male clients, of course, faced no such issue) but ultimately, they were tolerated because they served a purpose. To paraphrase Aquinas, remove prostitution from the world and you fill it with sodomy.
"Christian morality" isn't what it used to be, I guess.
Did you intend to take the position that Christian morality is inherently opposed to the basic concept of human freedom and dignity?
Is democracy alien to Western society because the idea that you can vote for whoever you want is antithetical to selfishness and sacrifice.
Maybe I spoke to soon. Maybe "Christian morality" is exactly what it used to be..
Not in my state, castle doctrine extends to cops acting unlawfully in Indiana. The one thing this godforsaken, dumbass, Midwestern shithole has managed to get right my entire life.
Tstorm. Lets start with identifying some core realities. Curious, horny teens are going to do things to themselves and with their peers. No amount of teaching them to fear sex, or praying they won't, is going to change that.
So now we've established that baseline, you assess how to handle that. Education. Teaching them to be safe, how their bodies work and those of their peers. About consent and boundaries. Instilling a healthy attitude towards sex so they grow with a healthy relationship towards it. Yes, that includes ensuring they understand pleasure should be a two way street.
We, the world, collectively don't want more of your generation's attitudes towards sex.
So now we've established that baseline, you assess how to handle that. Education. Teaching them to be safe, how their bodies work and those of their peers. About consent and boundaries. Instilling a healthy attitude towards sex so they grow with a healthy relationship towards it. Yes, that includes ensuring they understand pleasure should be a two way street.
We, the world, collectively don't want more of your generation's attitudes towards sex.
You're asking a Catholic to have a healthy attitude towards sex.
Fewer teens than ever are having sex. Right now, a healthy majority of high shoolers are virgins, and something like 90% are sexually inactive. The inevitability you speak of is genuinely rare, and as best as I can tell, the only people who think horny teens are all over each other are recluses envious of the sexual society in their imagination. Horny teens are going to see themselves and their peers as sex objects until they talk to them for 2 minutes and remember they're actual people who want meaningful human relationships rather than arbitrary sex encounters. That's a healthy attitude towards sex. All of you are way off.
You're reading everything we've said and condensing it to "You guys want teens to view each other as sex objects"? You are a walking talking example of the effects of your approach towards this, and you don't even seem aware of it.
Also a hearty chuckle on self reported stats from teens. The first article is from a poorly disguised conservative think tank who think society is falling to sinful ways. The second is actually a very interesting article that brings up many issues with trends in youth being a bit stunted in recent years, as well as openly providing scenarios where a more comprehensive sex education would have prevented the problems.
Also a hearty chuckle on self reported stats from teens. The first article is from a poorly disguised conservative think tank who think society is falling to sinful ways. The second is actually a very interesting article that brings up many issues with trends in youth being a bit stunted in recent years, as well as openly providing scenarios where a more comprehensive sex education would have prevented the problems.
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So... as sex education has become more widely available and open, teens have become less likely to put themselves in risky situations?
No, it isn't.
Dignity includes your right to be treated like an autonomous individual. Not as a tool to facilitate someone else's pleasure, whether that be their sexual gratification or their moral comfort. Dignity expresses something that is actually fundamental to "Western society", even if said society has often failed to live up to it, and that is the idea that a human being owns themselves.
While those are cherry-picked numbers within the fairly wide variety of statistics on the subject, it's pretty undeniable that this is true. However, it's also pretty universally agreed that the primary reason for this has been the rise in the quality and availability of sex education and a more open societal attitudes towards the discussion of sex and intimacy, not some great resurgence of dubiously "Christian" morality.
When you survey people who will have been teenagers a couple of decades ago. A significant proportion of them (generally around 1 in 5, mostly girls) will tell you that at the time they lost their virginity they didn't feel ready to do so, but were experiencing pressure from a partner or from peers. It turns out, when you teach children that they have no control or agency within their own lives and that their wishes and enjoyment do not matter and that they aren't supposed to think or ask about sex, they will take that assumption into their sex lives.
Sexual culture of the late 90s and early 2000s was incredibly toxic, and a big part of that was the complete sidelining of any idea of pleasure, especially pleasure for women. Shutting down any kind of frank discussion around sex doesn't make people stop thinking about it, it just makes the discourse around it dirtier and more brutal.
Depending on how heteronormatively you measure it, I lost my virginity some time between the ages of 14 and 16. I have never regretted or felt bad about it. The person I lost my virginity to remains one of my closest friends.
People mature at different rates. For me, it was like a switch flipped one day and I went from having little crushes on people I thought were really nice to actually being physically aware of what I wanted. Around that time, I briefly dated someone in the year below me (so around 13) who was very much in the same headspace and clearly expected me to deliver, although nothing happened as I wasn't really comfortable with the age difference.
But here's the thing. When I lost my virginity most kids in my year, boys especially, weren't even really thinking about it. They were curious about sex and they liked dirty jokes because it was taboo and thus funny, but they weren't really sure what they wanted. But there was very definitely a minority of us who were either sexually active or who felt ready to be, and it was not really a secret to anyone. Kids who want to have sex will either find each other, or they will attempt to introduce sex to the kids who haven't really thought about it yet, and in the grand scheme of things the former is preferable.
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You keep using exceptionally strange definitions of words that most people do not use
How does arbitrarily restraining your own freedoms make you dignified? And why is that a good thing? Are you sure your version of dignified isn't just repression?
For that matter, how does repressing yourself aid "the moral goodness of selflessness and sacrifice"? Restraining your own freedoms for no reason aids neither selflessness nor sacrifice. Hell, I'm not even sure what "restraining your freedoms" even means in this context?
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As an aside, I never thought it could happen but tstorm now managed to make handjobs even less sexier than they have already been for decades.
Read your own screenshot. Being worthy of honor or respect. One who abused their freedoms is not worthy of respect. Example: it was beneath his dignity to shout. The man was free to shout, but chose not to in order to preserve dignity. It's right there.
Man, I sure cherry picked the top of Google results. This is like the third time you've felt the need to accuse me of being underhanded while also agreeing with what I'm saying
I would hypothesize it is neither. I think people want long term relationships significantly more than the act of sex itself, so as social norms have delayed the point in life people try to get married, sex has delayed and diminished equally.
You can call out the correlation, sure. But again, these banned books are not sex ed.
I don't know who that is, but why does he look like he's about to have a meeting discussing the progress in the camps?
That's Rees-Mogg, previously our Minister for Brexit Opportunities (no, really).
Isn't that just more of an outcrop of the modern era in general? Cause it's not just teens and kids, adults in their 20s and maybe even 30s are also wayyy less sexually active than past generations, by like 30% or some huge amount like that.
I think it's all for the same reason, porn and internet stuff is more accessible and convenient to a lot of people than trying to navigate interpersonal relationships, and that doesn't seem to change based on if you're 14 or 24. Hell, younger people who are more tech savvy are even more likely to make use of technology in this way than older folks as well.