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Review embargo ends this Thursday at Noon EST.
I really don't understand why they even bother posting shit like this. People are gonna post spoilers no matter what you say, people will stream it, react to it, review it, clip it, and more and there isn't shit anyone can do about it.

Frankly I never understood the mentality of having to avoid spoilers in order to enjoy a thing. Has anyone ever not seen or played a game they were hyped for because someone or something revealed a key detail about it to them? The problem with spoilers is that just hearing something like Joel dies, isn't inherently a spoiler as you cannot spoil something without context.

This is why trailers work so well, they are nothing but spoilers but because the viewer doesn't have enough context then the enjoyment of the plot isn't ruined. Fuck the original FF7's trailer spoiled Aerith's death but you don't know shit about it because you had no context to the characters. At the end of the day a spoiler is just a tease to what is happening and why in a given story.

We see Freya attacking Kratos in the trailer right? So does that spoil a boss fight? A story moment? Well yes because now we will expect her to appear anytime we ride that sled thing through the snow, thus the surprise of her showing up is ruined. However in the actual game we don't know what's happening there, because perhaps we've already fought her before that moment, and instead of beating her we flee on the sled, thus of course she shows up in that moment which means it's an obvious moment in the game where the player wont even consider "oh i saw this part in the trailer".
 

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I really don't understand why they even bother posting shit like this. People are gonna post spoilers no matter what you say, people will stream it, react to it, review it, clip it, and more and there isn't shit anyone can do about it.
Because they're afraid they're not going to get all the money in the world, "art", or they only want things spoiled on their pathetic terms. I say let the babies have their bottles. I can't get the game anyway, due to financial reasons and cancel my pre-order for some extra money. Which doesn't matter much, because that game will be everywhere. I got Bayonetta 3, so I'm good for a long while. Besides, Gungrave and Sonic come out in the same month, but I'm looking more so forward to the former.
 

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I really don't understand why they even bother posting shit like this. People are gonna post spoilers no matter what you say, people will stream it, react to it, review it, clip it, and more and there isn't shit anyone can do about it.

Frankly I never understood the mentality of having to avoid spoilers in order to enjoy a thing. Has anyone ever not seen or played a game they were hyped for because someone or something revealed a key detail about it to them? The problem with spoilers is that just hearing something like Joel dies, isn't inherently a spoiler as you cannot spoil something without context.

This is why trailers work so well, they are nothing but spoilers but because the viewer doesn't have enough context then the enjoyment of the plot isn't ruined. Fuck the original FF7's trailer spoiled Aerith's death but you don't know shit about it because you had no context to the characters. At the end of the day a spoiler is just a tease to what is happening and why in a given story.

We see Freya attacking Kratos in the trailer right? So does that spoil a boss fight? A story moment? Well yes because now we will expect her to appear anytime we ride that sled thing through the snow, thus the surprise of her showing up is ruined. However in the actual game we don't know what's happening there, because perhaps we've already fought her before that moment, and instead of beating her we flee on the sled, thus of course she shows up in that moment which means it's an obvious moment in the game where the player wont even consider "oh i saw this part in the trailer".
My inkling is they have to for PR reasons put out some kind of PSA to sort of wash their hands of any responsibility for whatever happens between now and release. Because chances are there will be inevitable leaks and the typical YouTuber grandstanding shitshow that will follow. It happens every time with highly anticipated releases and I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for them, knowing how irritating it already is for mere consumers.


But you’re pretty spot-on about the effects of spoilers being mostly negligible in the long run. I’m not going to go and watch a let’s play or anything but for example I was still blown away playing the GoW 3 opening after seeing it a few times already. In general I often have higher enjoyment during repeat playthrough’s like NG+, because by that time my brain already knows the context and isn’t just going in blind.

It’s the same for appreciating art or music. Like how a musician could play a song for someone that might sound impressive, but they don’t know so it leaves them kinda dumbfounded. But even something simple that they already have an emotion connection to could leave them in tears.
 
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It happens every time with highly anticipated releases and I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for them, knowing how irritating it already is for mere consumers.
Yeah but it is irritating for consumers because there is some stigma on spoilers that has really gone too far. Ain't nobody gonna sit there and make you watch a whole playthrough. And clips on Twitter can only be a few seconds and you dont have to watch them neither.

It's people that like spoilers, like me, and it's people who don't, but you in control fully of what you see for the most part. Sure you might catch glimpses of something here or there but that don't mean nothing, all you gotta do is scroll past the clip, past the reddit post, don't click the article, don't watch the youtube video.

I mean it aint that hard. Let content creator's make the content, and let the viewers decide to consume it or not. Don't be telling people what to show/not show/talk/not talking about with your game. You made the game for people to enjoy and share that enjoyment. Let them chose how they want to do that.
 
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all you gotta do is scroll past the clip, past the reddit post, don't click the article, don't watch the youtube video.
Better yet, avoid them all together, if a person is that invested in a game, movie, TV show, book, or web show.
 

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Better yet, avoid them all together, if a person is that invested in a game, movie, TV show, book, or web show.
I mean I do understand that you can't avoid everything, because shit can appear on reddit, or twitter, or you favorite youtuber might post a video. So at LEAST possible screenshots are unavoidable to a degree. But the point stands that you don't have to watch the clips, or click the articles or whatever. At least until you're ready.
 
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I'll go one further and say that being afraid of spoilers should be the exception not the rule for any media, the way it used to be in the good ol' days before internet and social media.
You know kids *puffs pipe* people would show up to movies in movie theaters in the middle of the movie if they wanted and catch the beginning of the next showing like it was not big thing. Stories are a lot more than the ending or "what happens."

This whole spoiler thing is just performative nonsense. Sure some stories benefit from a surprise or twist but those are rare. Psycho, Sixth Sense, that one with Kevin Spacey where he's the bad guy in the end (yes it was a movie not just real life lol).

So I'm the opposite- spoil everything for me. If it "ruins" the movie or game or book, then there is something wrong with the movie/game/book or me.
 

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Review embargo apparently lifts today in a few hours. 👀 Is a good sign of confidence. Unlike Bethesda and the new sonic game lol (which am still rather curious about either way)


When Does the God of War Ragnarok Review Embargo End?
The review embargo for God of War Ragnarok will lift on Thursday, November 3, 2022, at 9:00AM PDT / 12:00PM EDT / 4:00PM GMT / 5:00PM CEST.

That means that God of War Ragnarok reviews will be releasing in

[timer=11/03/2022 4:00 PM GMT]

Welp, countdown timer isn't working. Bah. It'll be soon!
 
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Review embargo apparently lifts today in a few hours. 👀 Is a good sign of confidence. Unlike Bethesda and the new sonic game lol (which am still rather curious about either way)

Yep I cannot wait to watch people cream their jeans.
 

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Less than an hour to go-

 

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Just over half the meta reviews so far are 100’s, BOIIIIIIIII. Even from EGM, who scored 2018 a 95.

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I can also confirm, if you need the assurance, that the marketing materials have not lied to you. The combat system from the last game—already spectacular—returns with all the magic intact, with enough new additions to make it shine even brighter. There’s far more variety among enemy types, and especially among bosses and sub-bosses. (You are no longer carving your way through a troll parade.) New shields offer slightly different blocking and parrying playstyles to suit your tastes. Arenas have more verticality, as Kratos can now use his blades to rapidly pull himself onto ledges. There’s even a third new weapon (which I won’t spoil) joining the Blades of Chaos and Leviathan Axe, distinct from the others but just as much of a blast to use. It’s actually my favorite now, by a wide margin.

Pffft oh come on, it’s gotta be the hammer right?
 
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