Your theory is that if all votes were a matter of public record, Democrats would shame people into voting for them, and it would be effective and wouldn't backfire at all, and also that Republicans wouldn't try to equally abuse that change...
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At least the random citizen 'poll watches' only take down a person's likeness and car numerplates
I don't even know why who someone voted for would be relevant to any issue or conversation. If someone voted for Trump or Clinton, that a them issue. It's not mine. Nor does it prove how they think, act or vote in the future
A) Even if people were doing that, it would be a complete waste of time, as which people voted is already public information.
B) That's not the purpose of a poll watcher. They aren't there to monitor the people voting, they're their to monitor the people counting. It's the job of the people running the polling stations to stop voter fraud. Poll watchers connected to the campaigns are there to prevent fraud by the people running the polling stations themselves.
Indeed, but we both know people make assumptions based on appearance/presentation/other factors.
In theory.
I put the word poll watcher in quotation marks because I thought that would distinguish it enough from the real poll watcher...
Along with their behavior that doesn't fit the normal poll watching model as these guys have these conspiracy theories that minorities are voting at 3 seperate polling stations. So they need to photograph every voter at every polling station to check
He's talking about legitimate ones, not the extras randos that are showing up
I probably shouldn't have used the term poll watcher...
From memory we call such people scrutineers, you can volunteer to be one through the AEC. Also if memory serves it is in fact if not illegal then against policy for an election official to be within a certain distance of a voter at the polling booth unless called over for assistance by the voter (broken pencil, torn or incorrectly marked voting form).
Yeah, I'm not talking about those guys
I'm talking about the guys standing outside the voting station (i.e. for us outside the building), not inside the building like a legitimate official. They're taking photos of people's cars and voters who comes in and out of the building. They have full face mask on to cover up their identity with body armour and AR15. They are NOT security for the voting station. This is the first election they've shown up at
They aren't poll watchers at all, or scrutineers. They're Qanon and they're trying to prove voting fraud by taking everyone photos and making sure they same face isnt turning up at a booth the suburb over. Because they think immigrants are voting 5 times, and illegal immigrants voted despite not being able to... that's why Trump lost in 2020. They think we are lying when we think there was little voter fraud in 2020. They think we are covering up immigrants voting crimes
Well, under that name, perhaps, but there've been white supremacists standing outside to scare off black voters for decades, and I'd imagine more than a litte overlap between those two groups. Oddly, don't tend to hear complaints from people normally vocal about potential voter fraud about them.
You can't call them white supremacist. That would be mean and automatically means you can't have an opinion on the subject
Labour are doing a bit too well in the polls, apparently; some old-fashioned self-sabotage is required. Luckily that's what Labour does best.
To be fair to Starmer, he was asked a question and he just said the worst response he could think of quickly. Given time he could have come up with worse.
Of course it does. It's something bad about your side.
Yeah, armed rightwingers might attack the capital, but they wouldn't hang around a voting station and generally get in the way (without actually committing crimes or attacking people), that's a step too far.
Maybe you should take this as an opportunity to do some self-reflection on why your personal world-view is so disconnected from reality that actual events seem "like fiction".