More carbon is just a byproduct of having more people, which is better for everyone. We need to have a bigger population in order to take our place as the rightful rulers of the galaxy.
Funny Events of the "Woke" world
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Yeah, that is my proposal. Since opportunity cost exists, and every dollar you spend on reparations (which will swing the US back to the republicans creating even worse outcomes for the US), is a dollar you can't spend on your own national interests while China is the more wealthy country by GDP PPP, and 2nd by nominal GDP can.
Why should the US suffer a likely republican administration, a higher GDP-to-debt ratio, and less spending on its own citizens when China which is a superpower, is the 2nd largest economy by GDP PPP and 2nd by nominal GDP gets off scot-free?
Nobody should "get off scot-free". Your proposal is merely to make sure that everyone does: the absolute opposite of taking responsibility for one's own actions.
Besides which, if you genuinely think that the cost to the US of the loss-and-damage fund would seriously impact its level of parity with China, you need a lie-down. The US could fund the entire cost with a fraction of a percent on energy company profits, and those companies would still make billions more than they've earned.
I won't hold my breath either. There is a bigger chance for reperation for all the colonial empires towards their colonies than for the CO2 emissions.
China would be getting off scot-free IF we pay, and they don't which is dangerously naive. Also, Reparations could be not as cheap as you suggest. They range from a flat 32 billion to 600 billion a year which some activists argue the US and others should pay to grow their economy, and be safe from climate change. That is literally somewhat close to the US military budget. Literally degrowth economics.
Another thing is it would open the way to more reparations. When does it stop? We shouldn't be guilt-tripped into being the world's piggy bank.
Also, my proposal is to accept the climate refugees vs pay their corrupt governments or to ballon the corrupt UN's budget.
So instead of China getting off "scot-free", you want everyone to get off scot-free... still including China. How is that better? It just means no money whatsoever to actually address the issue.
An argument that applies equally to any and all criminal liability. You're fining a criminal for the damage they've done? "When does it stop?" May as well just let them off completely!
So, leave the poorest to suffer the damage that results from our own policies.
The US is the most responsible country, period, when you consider the total sum of historical emissions. And when you consider current emissions (over 20% of global emissions, second highest), and per capita (around 16 tonnes per person, which is about 4x the global average), then, yeah.
This isn't even a question of reparations, what happens in the US is critical.
Hate to burst your bubble, but consumption is far more important than population.
China shouldn't get off scot free. What happens in China is crucial to the climate crisis.
But if we're comparing China to the US, the US's per capita emissions are over 2x as much as China, and its historical emissions are greater. "What about China?" is just a deflection, when the US and China both have to reduce emissions, as together, they're close to around 50% of global emissions.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was mocking Gergar's positions when it comes to population growth, not stating my actual beliefs. That is 100% on me, though, because I really didn't make that clear.
Nurses must drop pay demands to ‘send clear message to Putin’, cabinet minister says
‘This is a time to come together and to send a very clear message to Mr Putin that we’re not going to be divided in this way,’ says Nadhim Zahawi
www.independent.co.uk
Wat?
This is the prick who billed the tax payer to keep his horses warm. To hear him say people shouldn't have pay rises because it'll drive inflation* that will harm 'the most vulnerable' is particularly galling. 'The vulnerable', like 'the homeless' and 'the elderly' have one function for the Tories: human shields.Nurses must drop pay demands to ‘send clear message to Putin’, cabinet minister says
‘This is a time to come together and to send a very clear message to Mr Putin that we’re not going to be divided in this way,’ says Nadhim Zahawi
Wat?
* If the inflation is driven by rising fuel and food prices, and the rising wages are only going to pay for the fuel and food, how do the rising wages also drive inflation? All that's really going to happen is that people who don't get the pay rise don't get the (essential) fuel and food. People aren't cranking the heating up to 30C because they've had a pay rise!
Wait why is this a funny event in the ''woke world''? Its a statement made by a right wing politicians, made to keep the working class from getting fair pay. Neither the Torries nor wealth inequality counts as particularly woke. Should this be a funny event in the anti woke world?Nurses must drop pay demands to ‘send clear message to Putin’, cabinet minister says
‘This is a time to come together and to send a very clear message to Mr Putin that we’re not going to be divided in this way,’ says Nadhim Zahawi
Wat?
So because US emissions are 2x China's the US should pay 600 billion dollars a year while China pays zero.
Also, you people say I am out of touch with reality. Almost no American voted for this, the republican congress won't vote on it, and I am glad they won't because I can't think of a more unpopular policy than 600 billion going to corrupt countries, and the corrupt UN. Those countries can pound sand. Also, my plan where the president can control migration has a higher chance of succeeding than this which has a zero percent chance of succeeding even with a democratic congress.
The US is a rogue state leading the world towards ecological collapse | George Monbiot
It’s not just indifference. It’s an active, and deadly, cavalier attitude towards the lives of others: an example other nations follow, says the Guardian columnist George Monbiot
www.theguardian.com
I am so glad I didn't donate to the Guardian when I felt like it a few years ago.
In what way is that article wrong? Or is the objection that it's merely pointing out the blatantly obvious?The US is a rogue state leading the world towards ecological collapse | George Monbiot
It’s not just indifference. It’s an active, and deadly, cavalier attitude towards the lives of others: an example other nations follow, says the Guardian columnist George Monbiot
I am so glad I didn't donate to the Guardian when I felt like it a few years ago.
At the very least "rogue state" and "leading the world" is contradictory.
Put me in mind of this:
""People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
-- Karl Rove, attributed by Ron Suskind. Rove later denied saying it.
I wouldn't trust Rove to give me the correct time in a clock shop, so....
Is there anything else? (You didn't provide this article, so you might not have an answer.) Or is it just this 'contraction'
Like, the US likes to swing its dick around and force other countries to act how the US wants. Trump stated that this was his goal regularly, but it is not just a Trump thing. Biden and Obama have done similar actions, just without the rhetoric
What is a Trump thing was that he was a rogue. The Dems and the GOP called him that. Trump called himself a rogue. It was his selling point. He still became the leader