Is there a particular reason to use Castro 2.0 as your source for information?
Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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He got historical realities, receipts and sources, all you got is name calling.
The guy is a bubble brained socialist who's only claim to relevance is that he's very very pretty. Hence, Castro 2.0. Dude has the experience of a 10 year old.
Ok, was naively hoping you'd choose a higher ground like actually confronting the political realities going on with this situation, instead of attacking a messenger on unrelated biases of you're own, cause there's no "political gotchas" on facing the depressing history fueling this violence, there's no cheap "winning" when presented with the videos of IDF bullying, colonial genocides and violent oppression. Whether that's a conscious or unconscious decision, on its own is nowt more than a trained deflection response.
Beyond that, I don't fall for any of this double-standard "purity test" "gotcha" questioning conservatives have relied on for too long already. And let's be honest here - you ain't watching any of my videos anyway, you know that, I know that, anyone with half a mind would too. Even ppl who harbour similar politics to me don't watch anything I post, and I don't expect them to neither, it's only for the very bored or passionate, an option for ppl as sad as me. It never mattered who I posted, and it never will, cause that ain't why you're here.
Israel: Palestinian Ambassador to the UK tells Sky News 'the dehumanising of Palestinians needs to end.'
The Palestinian ambassador to the UK has defended Palestine in a fiery interview with Sky News.
'Hey Palestinian ambassador to the UN whose whole or most of family(6 people) died in IDF air strikes that is horrible, do you condemn the Israeli massacre? Do you double condemn it, triple condemn it?'
UN ambassador makes a point about blockades killing civilians
Sky News journo: Anyways about the Israeli massacre... do you quadruple condemn it?
What the fuck is wrong with the Murdochs. And why is almost everyone in America who is politically powerful, and or involved so bloodthirsty against civilians? The center and liberals(Biden and mainstream liberal media) love or at least condone Israel killing everyone in Gaza, half of the left, DSA, and tankie communists are holding rallies for Palestine which is bad form, and making fun of the dead teenagers, and "hipsters" in Israel like at the portest in Australia. The center right, and right wing (Graham, Rubio, and Niki Halley)want dead Iranians/want to go to war against Iran, the Far Right is preparing to murder their political opponents in an American civil war, but is kind of holding off on murdering Palestinians for some reason(Vivek, and Tucker)
The only people with any credibility are Vaush, Secular Talk, and half of TYT's remaining audience.
Because the rich and powerful have to rally together and the liberals are too scared to speak out against the establishment lest they receive 9mm exit wounds.Israel: Palestinian Ambassador to the UK tells Sky News 'the dehumanising of Palestinians needs to end.'
The Palestinian ambassador to the UK has defended Palestine in a fiery interview with Sky News.news.sky.com
'Hey Palestinian ambassador to the UN whose whole or most of family(6 people) died in IDF air strikes that is horrible, do you condemn the Israeli massacre? Do you double condemn it, triple condemn it?'
UN ambassador makes a point about blockades killing civilians
Sky News journo: Anyways about the Israeli massacre... do you quadruple condemn it?
What the fuck is wrong with the Murdochs. And why is almost everyone in America who is politically powerful, and or involved so bloodthirsty against civilians? The center and liberals(Biden and mainstream liberal media) love or at least condone Israel killing everyone in Gaza, half of the left, DSA, and tankie communists are holding rallies for Palestine which is bad form, and making fun of the dead teenagers, and "hipsters" in Israel like at the portest in Australia. The center right, and right wing (Graham, Rubio, and Niki Halley)want dead Iranians/want to go to war against Iran, the Far Right is preparing to murder their political opponents in an American civil war, but is kind of holding off on murdering Palestinians for some reason(Vivek, and Tucker)
The only people with any credibility are Vaush, Secular Talk, and half of TYT's remaining audience.
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We live in unironically the world Genocidal Organ envisioned, first world nations are surveillance states that root out actual agitators while our ability to communicate across the net becomes increasingly limited, the global south is being slowly massacred with fuckall they can do to stop bwing slaughtered. The Ukrainian War was just the smoking gun to tell us it's wwiii
Netanyahu Declares 'Every Hamas Member Is a Dead Man' as Israel Forms Unity Government To Fight Terrorists
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed his nation Wednesday evening alongside opposition leader Benny Gantz as both agreed to join forces in a unity government to fight Hamas.
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So does that include you asshole since you funded them?
Opinion | Israel Has Never Needed to Be Smarter Than in This Moment
It would be a mistake to give Hamas what it wants: an overreaction like an invasion of Gaza.
Opinion | Israel Has Never Needed to Be Smarter Than in This Moment
It would be a mistake to give Hamas what it wants: an overreaction like an invasion of Gaza.
A bit slanted toward Israel, but it's the least bloodthirsty, and condoning of violence article I have read involving liberals about the conflict right now. Basically asks Israel to not murder all of Gaza. I know super low bar.
Edit: Also this
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I think all parties against Israel should recognize that they can not defeat them with even a WW2 French resistance vs. Nazi combatants occupation style of war. What Hamas did was just terrorism against, studiously so, civilians.
So what to do? A proper surrender and look for a just peace which I bet the Israelis would love to do. I don't think they still do it but they used to actually want Palestinians to come into their territory to work. Things could be like that again. They could be the next Japan to Israelis Alis.
Instead? Not sure where this is going. I do think it has to do with Iran being alarmed at an increasingly stabilized mid-east, which they do not want. But as an isolationist, I certainly don't want the US going off 1/2 cocked and deciding this attack means we are obligated to engage in WW3.
This ends with Israel telling the entire world to look away for 48 hours while they "fix the problem". They've reached the point where they're just done with the whole thing. If Hamas is going to go to ground, leave no ground to go to.
What does the history have to do with anything? I just can't stand Hasan. Use a history video like these.
When did I say anything about the accuracy of the history? Hasan's just an idiot.
I'm sure there are different sources for different years that don't all paint the same picture, but my actual mistake was the number, which should have been 75 from what I was looking at. I was not referring to stats for Palestine, I was referring to stats for Gaza, as that is what Seanchaidh was talking about. If you include the West Bank, the life expectancy drops, but the median age increases, which is all to say the original point about median age is stupid statistical deception.
...Israel could've had that in the '70s and assassinated the Palestinian opposition to Hamas instead. Backing hardline fundamentalist assholes just to make sure there wasn't any chance of getting anybody actually left wing in power was all the rage back then
Just to make sure we're all on the same page definitionally, everybody gets that "all the Palestinians get scattered to neighboring countries" is ethnic cleansing, right?
Wait, did you assume i got all my information and opinions from him about all this? Cause that couldn't be further from the truth. Didn't even know about the guy till niché conservatives started bringing him up like a few months ago, and he's kinda annoying in many ways anyway: I got a long list of those, lol. Ultimately is not a priority to have to like someone to be able to recognise when they're correct or not, though it certainly helps, can't deny that. And I still disagree with him on specific issues past that too. I posted loads of stuff before that ain't him (which is most, almost all posts, one could say), and am pretty certain they went unnoticed, if this assumption is anything to go by.
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Netanyahu is one of those factions who doesn't want piece.
False Claims Around Israel Attacks Include Recycled Videos and a Game Clip
Graphic imagery and footage have flooded social media since Hamas terrorists attacked Israelis. Bogus claims are also circulating and risk obscuring real evidence of atrocities.
False Claims Around Israel Attacks Include Recycled Videos and a Game Clip
Graphic imagery and footage have flooded social media since Hamas terrorists attacked Israelis. Bogus claims are also circulating and risk obscuring real evidence of atrocities.
In the days since Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than 1,200 people in sweeping assaults on kibbutzim, a music festival, towns and other places, violent images and graphic videos have flooded social media.
So too have false and misleading information, old and unrelated videos and photos with inaccurate claims, and fabricated assertions about the involvement of countries like the United States and Ukraine — adding confusion and deception to an already chaotic moment.
The false information circulating online risks clouding real evidence of atrocities that is emerging as Israeli soldiers retake control of places that were attacked: videos and photos, corroborated by witness accounts, that show that Palestinian gunmen attacked and killed Israeli civilians in large numbers. Soldiers and emergency workers are still recovering the dead, including children, in many communities.
Here’s a look at some of the inaccurate material circulating online.
A video game, not a Hamas assault
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Social media users shared a clip purportedly showing footage of “a new air assault on parts of Israel.” But the imagery is in fact taken from a video game, Arma 3, as a video shared on YouTube in 2022 shows. A representative for the game’s developer, Bohemia Interactive, also confirmed the clip online was taken from the game.
Visuals from that game have been used in the past to misrepresent other real-world conflicts, including Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
A video showing violence in 2015
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Some people on social media have shared a video of a woman being lit on fire, surrounded by a crowd of people, suggesting it showed the torture of an Israeli woman captured at a festival.
“This is the diabolic face of Hamas Jihadi terrorists torturing Israeli girl at the Nature Festival in Re’im,” read one post of the video on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, which has since been removed.
The video depicts real violence — but violence that took place in Central America in 2015, not Israel in 2023. The footage depicts a 16-year-old being burned to death in a Guatemalan village, CNN reported at the time.
A fabricated White House memo
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An image circulating online was made to resemble a screenshot of a purported Oct. 7 White House announcement providing Israel with $8 billion in aid, with some suggesting it indicated Ukraine would now have competition for U.S. help.
But the White House published no such announcement.
The supposed announcement resembles actual memorandums issued by the White House, notably a similar July announcement concerning assistance for Ukraine.
President Biden gave an address Tuesday about the Hamas attacks and vowed to support Israel, a U.S. ally that receives more than $3 billion in military assistance every year. Mr. Biden and White House officials have said the administration will be asking Congress to authorize additional support for Israel.
On Tuesday, the American ambassador to NATO said that U.S. military assistance to Israel would not come at Ukraine’s expense. The United States has committed around $45 billion in weapons and military aid to Ukraine since Russia’s invasion in February 2022.
Israel-Hamas War: Live Updates
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Oct. 12, 2023, 6:19 a.m. ET21 minutes ago
21 minutes ago
- These are some of the false claims about the Israel attacks being shared online.
- Here’s the latest on the war.
- A service in Manhattan mourns the dead in Israel and Gaza, and protests the war.
An invented BBC report
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A fabricated video shared on Telegram and X purported to show a BBC report that Bellingcat, an investigative group, had found that weapons provided by NATO to Ukraine had been sold to Hamas.
“Bellingcat: Ukrainian military offensive failure and HAMAS attack linked,” opening text on the video claimed.
But the BBC never published that report, and the underlying claim is unsubstantiated.
Bellingcat’s founder, Eliot Higgins, called the video “100% fake.” Shayan Sardarizadeh, a BBC journalist, also said it was false.
And President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine has condemned Hamas and repeatedly expressed support for Israel. Hamas and Russia, he said in a speech on Monday, are “the same evil, and the only difference is that there is a terrorist organization that attacked Israel, and here is a terrorist state that attacked Ukraine.”
An untouched Orthodox Church
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This image — posted on X under the words “Breaking News” — claims to show Israeli warplanes bombing St. Porphyrius Orthodox Church, the largest church in Gaza.
Church officials put out a statement saying that the reports were false. “We would like to inform you that St. Porphyrios Church in Gaza is untouched,” they said on Facebook. “The news circulating about it being damaged are false.”
Israel says it has launched hundreds of strikes targeting Hamas in Gaza since Saturday. Gaza residents and health authorities say that mosques, hospitals and schools are being hit, and U.N. officials have said that airstrikes have damaged water, sanitation and hygiene facilities affecting more than 400,000 people.
CNN did not stage a report or attack
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CNN on Monday published real footage of a correspondent, Clarissa Ward, and her colleagues ducking for cover as rockets were fired near the Israel-Gaza border.
A manipulated version of the report has been widely shared online, with audio edited over the video to suggest a control room was giving the crew instructions, suggesting the report was somehow staged.
“CNN EXPOSED FOR FAKING AN ATTACK IN ISRAEL,” reads one X post with the video.
“The audio in the video posted and shared on X is fabricated, inaccurate and irresponsibly distorts the reality of the moment that was covered live on CNN,” a spokesperson for the network said, urging viewers to watch the real footage on a trusted platform.
False report of a U.S. Embassy evacuation
On Wednesday, false reports circulated online claiming that the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon was being evacuated, prompting officials to debunk the assertion publicly.
The embassy responded with a statement Wednesday afternoon, saying: “The U.S. Embassy in Beirut has not evacuated and is open and operating normally. Reports saying otherwise are false.”
Embassy officials have advised U.S. citizens in the area to take caution and avoid traveling to the Lebanon-Israel border, where the Israeli military and the group Hezbollah have exchanged fire over recent days. Israel briefly invaded Lebanon in 2006 after Hezbollah assailants crossed the border and abducted two Israeli soldiers, and the group’s recent border fire has raised fears of a wider regional conflict.