Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

[MrCalavera]

Have you not been seeing the fawning support of pretty much anything that hamas does?

I've seen couple of those, early in the day, and they were often met with rebutals.I've seen waaay more unconditional support for Israel since, with disagreements being reflexively equated to antisemitism.
And on the other hand, lots of equating palestinians to wild animals, deserving to die regardless of affiliation.And not just from randos, but people with large audience and ifluence.

 

[Worgen]

No. Where have you been looking?

The only social media I use its tumblr and some of the artists I follow are reblogging stuff and its all pro palistine/hamas stuff and some of it goes to exterminating the zionists and such. You would think that the palistines/hamas are just completely 100% victims fighting for freedom and isreal is 100% the evil doers who want to just genocide the browns. Its like everyone forgot about all the hamas suicide bombers back in the day that even got us Netanyahu in the 90s.

 

[Worgen]

I've seen couple of those, early in the day, and they were often met with rebutals.
I've seen waaay more unconditional support for Israel since, with disagreements being reflexively equated to antisemitism.
And on the other hand, lots of equating palestinians to wild animals, deserving to die regardless of affiliation.
And not just from randos, but people with large audience and ifluence.

Might just have taken tumblr time to catch up, but right now I only see pro palistine/hamas there. Then again, I mainly follow artists and artist tend to be more left.

 

[Silvanus]

Might just have taken tumblr time to catch up, but right now I only see pro palistine/hamas there. Then again, I mainly follow artists and artist tend to be more left.

Are you by any chance conflating Palestine with Hamas there?

 

[Worgen]

Are you by any chance conflating Palestine with Hamas there?

No, not really, but the posters seem to kinda be doing that. Or ignoring that hamas is a thing and palestinians seem to support it pretty hard.

 

[Silvanus]

No, not really, but the posters seem to kinda be doing that. Or ignoring that hamas is a thing and palestinians seem to support it pretty hard.

Out of morbid interest, can I see some examples? Names redacted is fine ofc.

 

[Ag3ma]

No, not really, but the posters seem to kinda be doing that. Or ignoring that hamas is a thing and palestinians seem to support it pretty hard.

Hamas can die in a ditch.

I am however very concerned about the mountain of innocent Palestinian corpses that'll be piled up in the process of making it so.

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

[Worgen]

Out of morbid interest, can I see some examples? Names redacted is fine ofc.

Well, you have the weird product boycotts calls.

pink pupy 🐺

BDS expanded their list of companies to boycott.

www.tumblr.com

Using racist tiktocs to justify the strikes on civilians.

pink pupy 🐺

Those videos of Israeli influencers taunting Palestinians and making fun of the bombings in Gaza legitimately make my eye twitch

www.tumblr.com

etc

pink pupy 🐺

The Palestinian Ministry of Health released a full report with names, ages and IDs of those who were killed – maybe at least in part as a fuck you to Western media and the US president who suddenly c…

www.tumblr.com

Its not the worst, but its just kinda annoying that it totally ignores how messy the whole situation is, in favor of a binary good bad narrative.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

Well, you have the weird product boycotts calls.

pink pupy 🐺

BDS expanded their list of companies to boycott.

www.tumblr.com

Using racist tiktocs to justify the strikes on civilians.

pink pupy 🐺

Those videos of Israeli influencers taunting Palestinians and making fun of the bombings in Gaza legitimately make my eye twitch

www.tumblr.com

etc

pink pupy 🐺

The Palestinian Ministry of Health released a full report with names, ages and IDs of those who were killed – maybe at least in part as a fuck you to Western media and the US president who suddenly c…

www.tumblr.com

Its not the worst, but its just kinda annoying that it totally ignores how messy the whole situation is, in favor of a binary good bad narrative.

Have you seen the comments in this thread? Sean in particular...

 

[Worgen]

Have you seen the comments in this thread? Sean in particular...

No, haven't been keeping track of this thread much since its so long. But, considering who it is, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

Russia says Israel's Gaza bombardment is against international law

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said that Israel's bombardment of Gaza runs counter to international law and risks creating a catastrophe that could last decades.

www.reuters.com

 

[Silvanus]

Well, you have the weird product boycotts calls.

pink pupy 🐺

BDS expanded their list of companies to boycott.

www.tumblr.com

Using racist tiktocs to justify the strikes on civilians.

pink pupy 🐺

Those videos of Israeli influencers taunting Palestinians and making fun of the bombings in Gaza legitimately make my eye twitch

www.tumblr.com

etc

pink pupy 🐺

The Palestinian Ministry of Health released a full report with names, ages and IDs of those who were killed – maybe at least in part as a fuck you to Western media and the US president who suddenly c…

www.tumblr.com

Its not the worst, but its just kinda annoying that it totally ignores how messy the whole situation is, in favor of a binary good bad narrative.

None of these constitute support for Hamas or terrorism. The poster doesn't justify strikes on civilians in any way, shape or form. That's complete misrepresentation.

 

[Gergar12]

I going to take off my moral lens here, and argue that Israel's annexation of North Gaza, and Gaza City while morally shitty is a textbook case of offensive realism at play. All allies of Israel like the US are temporary in international relations(I would argue that rationale is true given Gen Z's support for Palestinians).

You are supposed to abuse your allies if the benefits outweigh the costs. The US didn't protect Israel in the six-day war like they did Kuwait or the Yom Kippur War. Israel is simply exploiting its temporary nuclear weapons edge, and US Support for more land like all offensive realists do.

 

[Worgen]

None of these constitute support for Hamas or terrorism. The poster doesn't justify strikes on civilians in any way, shape or form. That's complete misrepresentation.

The second one absolutely does.

That is justifying attacking civilians since service is mandatory, it also implies that all Israeli citizens are valid targets because of that and it seeks to other them as being "heartless colonizers." They are stupid but they are also too young to have done more then existed in isreal.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

 

[Thaluikhain]

The second one absolutely does.
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That is justifying attacking civilians since service is mandatory, it also implies that all Israeli citizens are valid targets because of that and it seeks to other them as being "heartless colonizers." They are stupid but they are also too young to have done more then existed in isreal.

That an impressive stretch from what they actually said.

 

[Worgen]

That an impressive stretch from what they actually said.

You're just pixelated.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

You're just pixelated.

My guy, they're being called assholes because they're being flagrant assholes. I could make the same statements about a depressing number of military folks I know...

Which doesn't mean that I think they're fair game to be killed

 

[Satinavian]

I going to take off my moral lens here, and argue that Israel's annexation of North Gaza, and Gaza City while morally shitty is a textbook case of offensive realism at play. All allies of Israel like the US are temporary in international relations(I would argue that rationale is true given Gen Z's support for Palestinians).

But Israel does not want to properly annex the Palestine territories because it doesn't want to grant the people living there citizenship. They do want territory. But only territory without people.