Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

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Reporters spend time with Gazan medical staff and paint a picture of horrifying privation (as if more evidence were needed at this point).
 

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After previously vetoing four separate UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire, the US introduced its own resolution calling for a ceasefire today. It was vetoed by Russia and China.


All three of these hypocritical gobshite governments view the forum as little more than a petty competition, it appears, and will sacrifice the chance of a ceasefire resolution if it means they can engage in inane pointscoring.
 

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All three of these hypocritical gobshite governments view the forum as little more than a petty competition, it appears, and will sacrifice the chance of a ceasefire resolution if it means they can engage in inane pointscoring.
Only one of those is sending Israel the bombs and other munitions with which to do it. Still.
 

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Only one of those is sending Israel the bombs and other munitions with which to do it. Still.
True. The US's direct involvement renders its culpability here unparalleled. Russia and China (as far as I can see) mostly export arms to corporate contractors and militias in Africa.

This, if true, would constitute a good reason to veto a resolution-- because it does not do what it advertises.
Edit: Oh, after some reading apparently it's because this isn't expressed as an imperative statement (?). The US is still bending over backwards to avoid telling them what to do-- rank cowardice. Still no good reason to veto, and there's no doubt those vetos were wielded solely because it was the US that drafted it.
 
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The ambassador wasn't even making the ceasefire the focal point, but the now dead tired "bUt HaMaS". All the imperative language was aimed away from Israel, this was nakedly a pr move to not have to call for a ceasefire but pass the buck on it to the people not responsible for genocide. Color me surprised.
 

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this was nakedly a pr move to not have to call for a ceasefire
But it did call for a ceasefire. The US resolution was inadequate, in failing to make a binding call for action of specific parties-- Israel and Hamas. That's a definite failure. But it did call for a ceasefire.
 

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No they didn't. This is a call for a ceasefire from the resolution regarding Sudan.

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There's not "an imperative to establish" shit, just a call for a ceasefire. The US written "ceasefire" is a political smokescreen and should be vetoed.
There is no reason resolutions must use the same wording as others. The wording of the US resolution calls for a ceasefire in any understanding of the words used.

It does fail to state it as a direct order to the parties involved. That's some cowardly bullshit, presumably to allow Netanyahu to wash his hands of responsibility for fulfilling it.

I don't see that as reason to veto it. Because regardless, it called for ceasefire, and now instead we have no ceasefire resolution at all. Just like the US vetos before, they've been wielded for petty grandstanding, and now we have nothing.
 

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Only one of those is sending Israel the bombs and other munitions with which to do it. Still.
It is one single district of Berlin. And the council which decided it doesn't even have any authority whatsoever over what the schools do and teach and which material they use. They can make a recommendation at best. This is just some local politicians trying to look tough on antisemiism and won't have any effect.

It is a stupid decision but not really the kind of scandal the English speaking world makes out of it. There are other, more questionable things that happened in Germany.
 
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At this point I'm wondering what israeli school children are taught about the holocaust, because the generation of "soldiers" it is using either are completely unaware of how to recognise the signs of a genocide, or have been raised to be complete sociopaths who don't care even if the signs of what they are doing are blatantly obvious.