Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

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The IDF has struck an aid convoy operated by World Food Kitchen, killing 7 aid workers, including international staff from the UK, Australia and Poland.
Watch those same three countries state that Israel has a right to defend itself in response.
 
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I don't want to say 'burying the lede' because it's all horrific, but
Moreover, the Israeli army systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes — usually at night while their whole families were present — rather than during the course of military activity. According to the sources, this was because, from what they regarded as an intelligence standpoint, it was easier to locate the individuals in their private houses. Additional automated systems, including one called “Where’s Daddy?” also revealed here for the first time, were used specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences.
 
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Was just reading the 972mag report this morning.

"During the early stages of the war, the army gave sweeping approval for officers to adopt Lavender’s kill lists, with no requirement to thoroughly check why the machine made those choices or to examine the raw intelligence data on which they were based.

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This was despite knowing that the system makes what are regarded as “errors” in approximately 10 percent of cases, and is known to occasionally mark individuals who have merely a loose connection to militant groups, or no connection at all.

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In an unprecedented move, according to two of the sources, the army also decided during the first weeks of the war that, for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians;"

Underlining mine. So, a categoric and enormous breach of international law, attested by numerous members of the country's own intelligence service. Fucking surely impossible to ignore.
 

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examine the raw intelligence data on which they were based.
Regardless of anything else in that sobering statement, even if the infantry officers wanted to see that data they wouldn't be able to because they could be A) not cleared for its level and B) have insufficient need to know. It is the job of military intelligence analysts to vet information coming in and going out for accuracy and reliability. Once it reaches the hand of a platoon of shit kickers, it will generally read some variation of "Go here, find this guy/these guys, kill they ass" but dressed up in formal sounding military parlance.
 

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Regardless of anything else in that sobering statement, even if the infantry officers wanted to see that data they wouldn't be able to because they could be A) not cleared for its level and B) have insufficient need to know. It is the job of military intelligence analysts to vet information coming in and going out for accuracy and reliability. Once it reaches the hand of a platoon of shit kickers, it will generally read some variation of "Go here, find this guy/these guys, kill they ass" but dressed up in formal sounding military parlance.
Yeah, but these statements weren't from infantry. The six sources were officers of the intelligence services. Their role involved approving the target identified by Lavender, but they were just expected to rubber-stamp it without diligence or care.
 
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