US 2024 Presidential Election
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Demons have more humanity and standards than any of these fuck heads.
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Don't recall anyone saying they were there, on the record, not anonymous, and that Trump said it. So, fake news.
"Suckers And Losers" Remains A HOAX, Four Years Later
It has been debunked by anyone actually on the trip.
EDIT: This too. Seems to be stating that haters can make up anything they want about you and dare YOU to prove it didn't happen. Not a standard for truth.
Did Trump Call Fallen Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'?
A former Trump administration official and Biden recently accused the former president of making the statement.
www.snopes.com
"Very fine people" : no way you're getting me to believe he was referring to ANTIFA. Unlikely in the extreme he meant, at the time, KKK/Nazis and maybe some neutrals? But if you needed it, he went out to clarify what he said and then specifically denounced white supremacy.
@Agema You were writing of Trump being an extreme narcissist. Sadly, I read too often that leaders are often that and worse.
Senior Executives Are More Likely To Be Psychopaths
About 1 percent of the population may qualify as having psychopathic behavior, while among senior executives, that rate climbs to 3.5 percent.
www.forbes.com
I think that likely true of other top people including Kamala. They can still be high functioning.
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Don't recall anyone saying they were there, on the record, not anonymous, and that Trump said it. So, fake news.
"Suckers And Losers" Remains A HOAX, Four Years Later
It has been debunked by anyone actually on the trip.gop.com
Why the hell would I trust "GOP.com"? Former Chief of Staff Mark Kelly (who accompanied Trump) corroborated the statements-- of course, Trump and other GOP toadies denied it afterwards. Hence we have something disputed, unproven, but corroborated by multiple first-hand sources.
He was referring specifically to members of a white supremacist protest. This is not a lie. I've seen it, in context. He's talking about white supremacists. You're bending over backwards to create a non-credible interpretation that lets him off the hook, solely because you like him. But anyone honest knows what he said-- it's clear as day.
"I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and white supremacists" - Trump in literally the same statement
This is the closest I've come to corroborating your view on France and "Suckers and Losers" so far:
" The Atlantic article also described Trump’s 2018 visit to France for the centennial anniversary of the end of World War I, where, according to several senior staff members, Trump said he did not want to visit the graves of American soldiers buried in the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris because, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” During that same trip to France, the article reported, Trump said the 1,800 US Marines killed in the Belleau Wood were “suckers” for getting killed. "
Seems at no time does Kelly actually state he heard Trump make this statement. Then this story goes back to the anonymous BS: "according to several senior staff members". What members!?!? Not Kelly. Maybe that is why the Snope link I gave you holds that you still have nothing but anonymous sources on this.
" In other words, Kelly, who was with Trump in Paris, confirmed that Trump did call American troops "losers" and "suckers," though it was unclear whether he witnessed the comments firsthand or heard about them from someone else, or from news reports."
Also, Zach Fuentes ..., " said, "I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?"
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/04/donald-trump-call-troops-suckers-losers/
Thank you. And if he had been talking both sides, the other side was ANTIFA. No way I'm believing he meant to call them very fine people either.
Cool. So, you can disbelieve it or assume he was extrapolating or whatever, but at least one person who was definitely on the trip has corroborated it. And the reports claim at least 4 sources for the two separate statements.
Given how very much in keeping this is with Trump's other statements and views, i find it not difficult at all to credit.
Uh-huh, but the protest to which he was referring was a white supremacist one. So this is equivalent to him saying "they weren't white supremacists" when we know they were.
Great, but its called unite the right. The people who weren't white supremacists or nazis? Who were they coming to unit with? Why didn't they kick the nazis and white supremacists out? Not to mention that coming to celebrate a champion of slavery is already not a good look.
No. By the looks of things about 10 to 20% were self- identified white supremacist
But then, the reason why it was a white supremacist march was because it was organised by a white supremacist to turn non- supremacist into supremacist
When these people talk about 'uniting', it isn't actually about uniting. It's about forcing others to believing as they do
Nope. But everyone attending the Unite the Right rally-- one of the 'sides' to which he referred as containing very fine people-- was either a white nationalist/supremacist, or was happy to associate with them and march alongside swastikas, valknuts, klan symbols and confederate flags.
Now We Know Why That Disastrous Trump Event Started So Late
Donald Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists started more than an hour late.
newrepublic.com
Liars generally don't like having their lies pointed out.Now We Know Why That Disastrous Trump Event Started So Late
Donald Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists started more than an hour late.
Oh dear. They need a thumbs down on this forum! LOL!
Finally, can you believe Shoe on Head is back!?!? Been too long!
But that was before his conversion. Now he's seen the light of Jebus, and isn't a sex pest any more.
Do you think everyone there who defended the statue of Robert E Lee marched with them?