The constitution stated that all men are equal. But that didn't happen, particularly for the first 200 years
Are you pretending that minorities just didn't ask to stop things like slavery?
I have further questions
Throughout the US there were laws against homosexuality. Why would you ask for a homosexual marriage when what you are doing is illegal? Shouldn't you be asking for homosexuality to be legal first? Do you think asking for gay marriage wouldn't end up with you in jail?
When do you think homosexuality became legal?
After homosexuality did become legal, do you think gay marriage was not asked for?
Did you know that anal sex is still banned in 12 states? Not homosexuality, even anal sex between heteros. And the Supreme Court just stops them from enforcing it?
We aren't just talking about say gay marriage or slavery, you can't just say the constitution GENERALLY doesn't protect things if you don't ask to see if they are protected.
It was against full faith and credit. It was the congress telling the USSC that they were not to apply that when dealing with marriage licenses for gay people. Sounds pretty unconstitutional to me. Allow it, and what else? The 19th shall not be construed to mean women are allowed to vote?
Huh? Wouldn't the DoMA be in line with Full Faith Credit. Wouldn't a marriage in State_X be a judicial proceeding and wouldn't then State_Y have to respect that proceeding/marriage? Isn't DoMA just inline with that? Congress can basically tell SCOTUS they don't apply just by making a law for most things. If Congress made a law that said women can't vote, it would be against the constitutional and deemed unconstitutional. What in the constitution states you can't a federal law concerning marriage?
Well, 5 of 9 judges can rule what they want or just refuse to hear something, but substantially yes. Though to maintain credibility, they obviously wouldn't rule on something so facile and unenforceable.
OK. How about
Baker v. Nelson? Gay marriage was banned in Minnesota. Baker tried to marry a man, and was denied. Baker filed suit. The Minnesota Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the ban on gay marriage "does not offend the Constitution".
Baker appealed to the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS dismissed the appeal, and made the ruling against Baker binding precedent.
But you said they could literally do whatever. You just literally used my argument. The SCOTUS isn't going to reverse gay marriage or racial marriage or whatever hell thing you guys are so worried about that will get reversed. Just like all the shit you guys are worried about in Project 2025 isn't going to happen.
That's what I've been asking for the whole time. You can't just claim something isn't allowed/protected when you don't ask. According to the Wiki, they at least did try to use the 14th amendment. I'd agree with most people (I believe) and I would say society as a whole was not OK with changing what marriage was at that point in time. I don't feel like looking up exactly how it was argued but logically it's pretty easy to list the benefits of married people and argue it's unfair that others don't have the same benefits. I have no problem with outlawing gay marriage as long as marriage is merely just a piece of paper conveying no objective benefits but that's not the case.
Can't stand Vaush. A sophist, a pervert and a moron.
He is a pretty horrible, I've only seen one video with him in it and he was horrible both with attitude and logically.
A viral TikTok said Trump's recent rallies have been held in "sundown towns," places where Black residents were historically barred from living.
www.newsweek.com
Apparently Trump's campaign is stopping in a lot of current and former "sundown towns" (towns where black people are not welcome after dark). It could be a coincidence that Trump is touring these small towns that happen to be hugely majority white and discriminatory. I've heard the theory that these are just the towns that are willing to give him free venues as a lot of major cities won't rent venues to him anymore because he keeps skipping out on paying them. Either way, it's not a good look.
Definitely don't think this is actually helping him grow his base, but I guess this is where he gets the crowd sizes he so desperately craves.
It's pretty hard to not go to sundown towns if you going to small towns in general. In Illinois, a northern state obviously, there's tons of former sundown towns all over the place and if you were to have a rally in some random town outside of Chicago, it was probably a sundown town. This is story, why?
