US 2024 Presidential Election

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People calling Trump a criminal really confuses me. Not that he isn't a criminal, but the fact that most political figures are guilty of some dirty shit. Hunter Biden funneling money to pops, Hilary's emails, Kamala being a useless snake who is clearly a puppet for someone.

These aren't clean people. At very best they are corrupt snakes and none of which give a flying fuck about policy that helps the people.

So it's very much been a bad choice no matter who gets picked.
 

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People calling Trump a criminal really confuses me. Not that he isn't a criminal, but the fact that most political figures are guilty of some dirty shit. Hunter Biden funneling money to pops, Hilary's emails, Kamala being a useless snake who is clearly a puppet for someone.

These aren't clean people. At very best they are corrupt snakes and none of which give a flying fuck about policy that helps the people.

So it's very much been a bad choice no matter who gets picked.
Guilty of dirty shit in the eyes of someone like you, and feel free to weigh that standard as you please, and in the eyes of the court is quite different, in the latter case you actually need evidence.
 
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Guilty of dirty shit in the eyes of someone like you, and feel free to weigh that standard as you please, and in the eyes of the court is quite different, in the latter case you actually need evidence.
Well they just delete all the evidence. So...
 

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Well they just delete all the evidence. So...
If that was so easy then why didn't Trump?

Maybe the different isn't just that Donald isn't just unclean as politicians tend to be but actively criminal, and a step beyond any of his peers.
 
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People calling Trump a criminal really confuses me. Not that he isn't a criminal, but the fact that most political figures are guilty of some dirty shit. Hunter Biden funneling money to pops, Hilary's emails, Kamala being a useless snake who is clearly a puppet for someone.

These aren't clean people. At very best they are corrupt snakes and none of which give a flying fuck about policy that helps the people.

So it's very much been a bad choice no matter who gets picked.
While there certainly are enough criminal politicians, i am pretty sure most politicians are not criminal.

As for the mentioned ones :

Hunter Biden is not even a politician.
Hillary's emails are a show of gross incompetence by both Clinton and the FBI, but in fact there was no crime. None of the emails was classified as confidential.
"useless snake" and "clear a puppet of someone" are not crimes, even if that were true.
 

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See, we're doing that thing again, where it's apparently the Democrates' fault that an openly fascistic mad man who tried to commit a coup got the popular vote. If pointing to that and pleading the public not to vote for that isn't enough on its own, then what the fuck is left?! If the reason to not vote for fascism isn't 'cuz it's bloody fascism', then you're done as a society.

But hey, at least Harris rightfully lost for being such a faker, right? Being a racist dictator is bad 'n all, but being a fake... *yegh*
 

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Hunter Biden is not even a politician.
That and no one even produced any evidence he was doing anything wrong in Ukraine. Was he hired entirely because of his name and connections? Sure, but company boards are filled with people like that. Are we going to blackmail Zelensky over all of them?
 

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So the Republicans now control the white house, the senate, the house of representatives, and the supreme court, and they do so with the popular majority.

Republicans now have the ability to do whatever they want, pass any legislation they want, with the consent of the people to do so.

I expect to have the lowest prices for eggs and gas prices in the world within a month of Trump taking office. That's why people voted for him right?
 

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I can't speak for Ezekiel so maybe it's my own lense coloring their post but I also hate Harris more than Trump. Not because Trump is better but because he doesn't smile to my face when he plans to plunge the knife into my back. His knife is out in front of me, eagerly waiting for the chance to spill my blood. I know exactly where I stand when up against Trump.

Harris has that same knife but hides it behind pretty language and empty promises AND she takes up the spot where an ally should be.

When I'm punching right and hitting Harris, it should be safe to assume I'm also punching anyone to the right of Harris (IE Trump). Again, maybe it's my lense and Ezekiel doesn't mean it this way but if I'm criticizing Harris for something Trump also does, I'm also criticizing Trump (and many of the other spineless ***** ass politicians doing the same thing).
How I feel. Basically. We know Trump is a liar and who he will serve, but with Harris there is also the disgusting arrogance of it all. Think of how much the establishment hates the peasants to bet on this obvious loser candidate, already proven a loser in 2020.
 

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Does it really matter?
I expect to have the lowest prices for eggs and gas prices in the world within a month of Trump taking office. That's why people voted for him right?
Trump won't have the time in his first month to head down to the secret bunker containing the market price dial in his first month. He'll still be doing rallies.
 
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Republicans now have the ability to do whatever they want, pass any legislation they want, with the consent of the people to do so.
Though they can do more, they can't do "whatever they want" with a simple majority.

Anyway, Trump as a gatekeeper for female US Presidents is kinda fitting, tbh.
 

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So the Republicans now control the white house, the senate, the house of representatives, and the supreme court, and they do so with the popular majority.
Well, not the House of Representatives just yet. But it's not looking good.

So: RFK Jr. to be handed a big role in the administration. Speculation is on something in public health, with Kennedy being an anti-vaxxer. He's also said Trump will push to remove fluoride from all drinking water.

And Musk in charge of some kind of new department of cutting government spending. Which of course means shredding regulation and cutting public sector roles. We can presumably expect safety/quality standards and inspections to plummet, and corporate oversight to be canned.
 

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Anyone know why 4 red leaning states appear to have stopped counting cold (including Michigan).?

I'm think if they can "fortify" a couple, they can then sue a few others and possibly flip the election to Kamala.

We'll see. I don't think this thing is over yet.
 

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One recurring myth we will end up hearing is that Trump won because the left was ''pro unfiltered mass migration''

As if its still 1980. Fact of the matter is that just about every left wing party adopted border protection in their program and even here people called out Harris plenty for ''running to the right on the border''.

But no matter what the left has as a policy on migration the right will always just respond with ''the left is pro unfiltered mass migration'' which will then instantly be the narrative as if its still 1980.

Happened in the Netherlands, happened in Germany, in Britain and the US too. Like clockwork.
 
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See, we're doing that thing again, where it's apparently the Democrates' fault that an openly fascistic mad man who tried to commit a coup got the popular vote. If pointing to that and pleading the public not to vote for that isn't enough on its own, then what the fuck is left?! If the reason to not vote for fascism isn't 'cuz it's bloody fascism', then you're done as a society.

But hey, at least Harris rightfully lost for being such a faker, right? Being a racist dictator is bad 'n all, but being a fake... *yegh*
That's an easy one and one that we've been trying to warn you all about for months now

Someone being shit doesn't make the other person not-shit. Especially when the other person supports Fascist-lite shit like the police crackdowns on "anti-Semitic" protests on college campuses (including Chuck Schumer stating he would make it hate speech in certain criticisms of Israel), having a "tougher immigration bill than Donald Trump would do", and you know, that tiny little Genocide thing going on in Israel/Palestine that we're funding.

I have no idea why so many of you are shocked that Trump lost votes from the last time he ran but he still managed to whoop Harris without even needing the fucky whucky Electoral College to pull it off. You call Trump a Fascist for doing Fascisty stuff but defend Harris when she does Fascisty stuff just because she's on Team Blue. When you have 99% Hitler go up against 100% Hitler, 100% Hitler is going to win because the people who want Hitler will vote for him but the people who don't want Hitler won't just ignore the 99% part...
 

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Trump needs to hang. That was my position in 2016, that was my position in 2020 and that is my position now. The fact that Biden thought he could make peace with the people who sold out the country and the fact that Harris followed in his footsteps is the reason they have thrown their nation to the wolves once again. Who ever failed to give the order to shoot when Trump's cronies tried to overthrow the government squandered the last chance America had to recover. And because of those cunts Trump's and his flunkies are gonna throw Europe under the bus. In a couple years the Russian army is probably gonna be on our doorstepr with the implicit blessing of the American government. Death to America, seriously.dearh to the Republican Party and death to the Democratic Party that is coddling and enabling it.
 
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The democratic leadership alienated every part of their voters.

They attacked Muslim Americans by giving Israel unlimited arms to kill as many people in Gaza (later on Shia districts in Lebanon) as possible. Arab voters (who are Muslim) are already second only to Chinese-Americans in being the racial enemies of the state in the US, given the 9/11 and Iraq War discrimination. Muslim voters too were outcasted by both Trump and the DNC. Do I want political Islam? No, but I also don't want political religious people to be in power and force other people to convert to their religion.

They attacked the Indian American Community with constant attacks on Vivek and JD Vance's wife, Usha, who, yes, his biotech firm didn't work out, but so most biotech firms don't work out in the medium term. Again, another demographic hated by techie Americans for competing against them in the job realm. Are there some scammers located in India? Yes, but if Chinese people could know English, they would scam Americans too. We have the same volume, as any other country or nationality, with 1 billion people. No wonder both the left-wingers and right-wingers of India get defensive over Modi.

They attacked meat eaters when Americans weren't ready to eat lab-grown meat. Don't even get me started on liberal vegetarians and vegans.

They attacked Asian Americans. Calling Vietnamese Americans disgusting names for visiting with Trump. Kamala met with Ken Jeong, whom Asian American males hate with a burning fashion for being a sellout. I also don't find him funny with his racism against his people (Asians). Simu Liu would have been better.

They attack Hispanic Americans, assuming they would all love Venezuelan migrants, whom many Latin American voters don't like due to Maduro's poor economic policies and socialism. Left-wing militias were death squads too. And FARC terrorized Columbia; no wonder many in Ohio voted for Moreno. Also, many Hispanic voters are Christians, idiots. They hate abortion, and some even dislike LGBTQ rights.

They attacked African American males for no fucking reason. Their second most loyal demographic. Fucking why?

They attacked male voters of all races, but white men in particular, who have some of the best tech, podcasting, and financial skills in the whole country.

They even attacked a white woman by saying they were afraid of their husbands as if Americans all beat their wives for not voting that way. No, you idiots, most fights are over money.

Also, there were quite a few attacks on Candience Owens, making it about her gender and race. So stupid. She has bad ideas, you idiot, Not everyone is an identity politics in-group realist.

And let's talk about the economy since we are done with foreign policy and social issues. Rent increases weren't fought back against, house prices (you know the American dream) were spiking, and the Democrats didn't pass any executive orders or make the perception of fighting it. Layoff after layoff in tech-friendly states that no one did anything about. Her fucking idiotic talking head wants to fire Lina Khan over what the LinkedIn CEO (whom most job-seekers despise) wanted. Guess who is one of the most popular civil servants in America. Lina Fucking Khan.
 
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Something to keep in mind with all the talk about how Trump won the popular vote, my prediction from a few pages ago is holding true so far, it looks like Trump will end up with roughly the same number of votes he got in 2020. The shift was entirely on Kamala/Biden.

So what does that mean? Well it means that Trump isn't any more popular than he was 4 years ago, his message didn't win many voters. So it's not like people are clamoring for Trump's ideas, he should be very careful about that whole "will of the people" line. He has a dedicated cult that can't be swayed, but little else. Additionally, several abortion ballots went through the states, and most of them passed. Florida didn't, but only because Desantis changed the rules, otherwise it would have. It's definitely popular at least.

On the flipside, trying to peel supporters away from him is a fool's errand and dems really really need to stop trying. All it did was cost ~10 million votes. A clear eyed look at these results just says that dems have an enthusiasm problem, and it's linked to running to the right.