US 2024 Presidential Election
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I mean, Collin Allred came out as a family values Christian against trans people, and they tried to run him against Ted Cruz.
Democrats don't give flying fuck about trans people, and yet in the face of MAGA it's still going to be preferable. But that doesn't matter anymore now.
I don't wear any masks. I asked a simple question and you can't provide an answer because you don't have an answer to provide, just empty rhetoric.
Take off your mask of virtue for once.
"Villainy wears many masks, none so dangerous as the mask of virtue."
Citation for the quote?
You have people on the left saying to burn the entire system down like Saira Rao.
He’s the champion of the Republican Party, and if it’s extreme fringe too. It’s not even possible to be a reigning American politician without being right wing. So he’s objectively right wing.
And a politician who loudly disputes the legitimacy of politicians, courts and journalists they don’t like is objectively authoritarian. All the more so if they try to throw out election results and do a coup if they lose.
didn’t Trump repeatedly promise to procecute everyone who resisted him getting crowned as an illegitimate president in 2020?
Drain the swamp. The best part about the quote is that it's so vapid and can be used by any identity
Anti vax people are those sort of people, my dude. Preppers, home schoolers, incel, Christian Nationalists, fossil fuel advocates etc. Anyone who wants to destroy American soceity and replace it with their own. Yes, there are a bunch of lefties. And a bunch of lefties voted for Trump because burning it down is better than the Dems
Now, do I actually think Trump will burn it down? Not all of it. He wants to be in control of the system. He will destroy everything that will keep him out of power.
It's hard to claim he's the fringe when they won the popular vote. Overton Window Shift: Achievement Unlocked
This is now America
So every American politician is right-wing and authoritarian?
Let me know when he actually does that. Remember Trump was thrown off ballots unconstitutionally by the other side.
Drain the swamp wasn't Trump saying to burn everything down, it's a political saying that's like 50 years old that doesn't mean that in the slightest. Why do you guys have to make shit up that Trump says? He says plenty on his own that you don't have to make up. What is your obsession with this guy?
Hey, man, stop trolling, dude.
sarcasm, btw
I'll echo Steven 'Destiny' Bonnell's thoughts on the matter. It boils down to vibes about the economy.
No. Not every American politician is right wing AND authoritarian. But if they make it into office they're all just right wing. That's the starting point for US politicians. So by all accounts Trump is at least right wing to start with. And then he goes further right...and further...and further. Far right, one might even say.
He already did. Lots of times.
Vance isn't Trump so we might assume he's not a literal traitor to Europe right? Wrong.
Vance has both said the EU needs to be coerced with its security to give Musk good deals, and that its Europe and explicitly not Russia which must fund Ukraine's reconstruction. That goes far beyond the usual far right dog whistles on Ukraine. Its all but a direct statement that Europe should be punished for not being an oligarchic hellhole, and that it should be punished for ever having objected to Russia's genocidal war to begin with.
In other words Vance is complete vermin.
Vance has both said the EU needs to be coerced with its security to give Musk good deals, and that its Europe and explicitly not Russia which must fund Ukraine's reconstruction. That goes far beyond the usual far right dog whistles on Ukraine. Its all but a direct statement that Europe should be punished for not being an oligarchic hellhole, and that it should be punished for ever having objected to Russia's genocidal war to begin with.
In other words Vance is complete vermin.
My bad on that, I was conflating right-wing and far-right together. Every American politician is right wing economically. Trump isn't close to authoritarian.
Huh?
You said
"didn’t Trump repeatedly promise to procecute everyone who resisted him getting crowned as an illegitimate president in 2020?"
When did he do that?
As much as I'd enjoy digging into the philosophy and rhetoric in historical perspectives of work and freedom, you certainly don't care.
You're either dense or fucking with us.
FADEL: More than a hundred examples - who exactly is he targeting?
DREISBACH: Well, at the top of the list are his political opponents. He says if he wins, on Day 1, he will appoint a special prosecutor to investigate President Joe Biden and Biden's family. He says Vice President Kamala Harris should be prosecuted. He's reposted calls for former President Barack Obama, former Congresswoman Liz Cheney to face military tribunals. And then he's also pushed for prosecutions and arrests of people involved in the criminal and civil cases against him - prosecutors, judges, even a courthouse staffer. And in one case, he floated the idea of prosecuting a member of the Georgia grand jury that indicted him for election interference.
FADEL: OK, so this goes well beyond just politicians, including private citizens, like this juror you just described, but also journalists. What has Trump said about them?
DREISBACH: Well, he said journalists who refuse to give up their sources should go to jail. He says CBS and NBC should be investigated and lose their broadcast licenses because he didn't like their news coverage. He's also attacked people who criticize or protest the Supreme Court. This is from a rally this September.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
DONALD TRUMP: These people should be put in jail. The way they talk about our judges and our justices, trying to get them to sway their vote.
I'm not going to bother to listen to 40 minutes of this windbag so maybe the interview isn't anything like the the headline but assuming the headline isn't just clickbait, here's the answer if anyone wonders if The Democrats are going to learn a single fucking thing from this election...