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Tai Chi Zero - a bat shit insane kung fu movie that is a cross between Kung-Fu Hustle and Scott Pilgrim. You can tell what inspired them to make this movie. Sucks that it's a two parter. The sequel I have to get at some point. I wish I had known, but I got the movie for free, so worth the complaint.

 
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Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie - Still one of the best game to movie adaptions ever made, and still one of the best fight game movies ever made. The worst you can say is that the movie has 3 minutes of padding. That's it. The soundtrack for the US still holds up great, even though it's a product of the 90s. The Japanese soundtrack is good, but doesn't fit the movie and is too typical J-pop/J-rock. The English dubbing still stands heads and shoulders, even though certain characters like Dee Jay and Cammy should have Jamaican and British accents respectively. And the fight scenes? Pure God-like!

This movie would define Street Fighter's look for decades giving the franchise a more anime style starting with Alpha/Zero, and not changing fully until Street Fighter 6. It also inspired several additions or changes in backstories for specific character that would be added into the games. This movie's 2 vs. 1 final fight scene also inspired Dramatic Battle in the Alpha series and Ultra Street Fighter II. I just watched the Blu-Ray edition for the first time, and it comes with all of these cool bonuses where you can even switch the soundtracks for the respective dubs. This edition is like Super Street Fighter II Turbo for movies. Ironic, I know. Where each new release gets all of these cool new updates and bonuses previous releases lacked. You can even watch the PG-13 cuts, if you want. I have not done that since the late 90s and have no need to go back to that.

This a S-Rank adaption to a game franchise that had little plot at the time. See this movie, if you have not. At least once as a fighting game fan, a video game fan, or all the above.
 
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Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie - Still one of the game to movie adaptions ever made, and still one of the best fight game movies ever made. The worst you can say is that the movie has 3 minutes of padding. That's it. The soundtrack for the US still holds up great, even though it's a product of the 90s. The Japanese soundtrack is good, but doesn't fit the movie and is too typical J-pop/J-rock. The English dubbing still stands heads and shoulders, even though certain characters like Dee Jay and Cammy should have Jamaican and British accents respectively. And the fight scenes? Pure God-like!

This movie would define Street Fighter's look for decades giving the franchise a more anime style starting with Alpha/Zero, and not changing fully until Street Fighter 6. It also inspired several additions or changes in backstories for specific character that would be added into the games. This movie's 2 vs. 1 final fight scene also inspired Dramatic Battle in the Alpha series and Ultra Street Fighter II. I just watched the Blu-Ray edition for the first time, and it comes with all of these cool bonuses where you can even switch the soundtracks for the respective dubs. This edition is like Super Street Fighter II Turbo for movies. Ironic, I know where each new release gets all of these cool new updates and bonuses previous releases lacked. You can even watch the PG-13 cuts, if you want. I have not done that since the late 90s and have no need to go back to that.

This a S-Rank adaption to a game franchise that had little plot at the time. See this movie, if you have not. At least once as a fighting game fan, a video game fan, or all the above.
If that movie had been nothing but the Chun-Li vs Vega fight it would justify its existence on that merit alone. Thankfully all the important fights are fucking bangers.
 
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I watched Fucking Amal again for the first time in years (Show Me Love for you americans). Not much to say about it - it's a nice short little feelgood movie, despite all the bullying, underaged drinking, vommiting, and a suicide attempt. But it handles all of it with very little, if any, cinematic flair, which is kinda what gives this movie its charm. It's like the little gay movie that could. And it's a blast from the past when being gay was controversial, but not as heavily scrutinized as it is currently (and will be far more in the next 4 years most likely). So it's an oddly charming reminder of the simplier times of homophobia, if that makes sense.

It's also a high school movie where the teens not only look and act like teens, but they feel like grubby looking teens that were plucked right off the street. None of the Hollywood veneer.
 

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I'm surprised you didn't mention the kiss of friendship.
There were too many issues I had with this movie to cover all of them. There was also that one, and while I mentioned in general characters that weren't our main trio getting the shaft, Lando and Zorii especially stood out as wasted.
 
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Jason Statham weekend (after seeing Babygirl in cinemas)

Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre

What if Tarantino never outgrew Pulp Fiction? That's Guy Ritchie for you.

The Beekeeper

It's a John Wick knockoff, not as great (or campy) as it could've been, but still a pretty solid action-thriller with a crackpot conspiracy plot and a decent roster of villains. It's a 3/5, but lose 20 minutes + the subplot about the FBI lady cleaning up after Statham and I'll make it 4/5. Do we think John Wick would be improved by the addition of a cop who's always late and is slowly piecing together what we already know while never affecting the plot? Exactly.
 
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The Front Room: Comedy / Great

A young couple, expecting a child and in dire need of money, find themselves unexpectedly “blessed” when the husband’s father passes away, and his widow (the husband’s stepmother) agrees to leave them the fortune with one caveat: she wishes to live out her days with them. Sounds like a sweet deal, but the stepmother is a conniving zealot with ulterior motives.

Billed as a horror/suspense film, it is mostly and unintentionally comical. The stepmother is beyond annoying, and save for her grip on the money, possess little more threat than an inconvenience. This is basically like the movie Clifford as the old woman passes knowing glances at the wife as she manipulates her way around the husband. It ends the way most of the viewers want it to.
 

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I like it more than almost all of the Wick sequels. Still one of better knock offs.
It's probably my favorite knockoff, not to mention Ayer's best movie in at least 10 years. I just didn't think the world-building was as interesting or exotic as the borderline anime plotting in John Wick, and it didn't have much of a sense of humor (despite all the bee puns), and all those call centers should've been filthy derelict The Raid-style lairs instead of looking like what the 90s thought of hackers.

I brought this up but I could've used less FBI lady. The movie is 1/3 Statham, 1/3 villains being flippant or terrified about their odds (fine), and then this other 1/3 is this buddy cop thing that brings absolutely nothing to the table except bring up the rear and provide a moral anchor for the faint of heart. I also felt Statham seemed more outraged about Phylicia Rashad's Inciting Incident fate than the character's actual daughter did. That lady was not acting like her beloved mother killed herself over a phishing scam 24 hours ago.
 

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it didn't have much of a sense of humor (despite all the bee puns),
Beekeeper does have sense of humor, the movie is just sardonic about it.

and then this other 1/3 is this buddy cop thing that brings absolutely nothing to the table except bring up the rear and provide a moral anchor for the faint of heart.
The buddy cop part I am somewhat whatever and indifferent about. Whenever a sequel comes out, they can drop that aspect, as there is no need to do it a second time.

. That lady was not acting like her beloved mother killed herself over a phishing scam 24 hours ago.
I never felt that. To me at least.
 

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Jason Statham weekend (after seeing Babygirl in cinemas)

Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre

What if Tarantino never outgrew Pulp Fiction? That's Guy Ritchie for you.

The Beekeeper

It's a John Wick knockoff, not as great (or campy) as it could've been, but still a pretty solid action-thriller with a crackpot conspiracy plot and a decent roster of villains. It's a 3/5, but lose 20 minutes + the subplot about the FBI lady cleaning up after Statham and I'll make it 4/5. Do we think John Wick would be improved by the addition of a cop who's always late and is slowly piecing together what we already know while never affecting the plot? Exactly.
In Guy Ritchie’s case I think it’s less him not growing out of Lock Stock and Snatch, than it is that most of his films that weren’t in that vein - Swept Away, Revolver, Man from UNCLE, Wrath of Man, King Arthur - weren’t terribly popular or even decent money makers. I’m not counting Aladdin or the Sherlock Holmes movies as they had weight of pre-existing fans behind them. Though for the record I really like Wrath of Man and fucking LOVED the Man from UNCLE.

So, yeah, Ritchie is a bit of a limited instrument, but when he sticks to his talents, his movies are good.
 

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In Guy Ritchie’s case I think it’s less him not growing out of Lock Stock and Snatch, than it is that most of his films that weren’t in that vein - Swept Away, Revolver, Man from UNCLE, Wrath of Man, King Arthur - weren’t terribly popular or even decent money makers. I’m not counting Aladdin or the Sherlock Holmes movies as they had weight of pre-existing fans behind them. Though for the record I really like Wrath of Man and fucking LOVED the Man from UNCLE.

So, yeah, Ritchie is a bit of a limited instrument, but when he sticks to his talents, his movies are good.
I would characterize Swept Away and Revolver as "The Madonna Era", and Man from UNCLE and King Arthur as equally valid attempts to sell out as Aladdin and Sherlock Holmes. Rocknrolla and The Gentlemen were decent send-ups to the good old days of Lock Stock/Snatch, but then on the other hand you have this insipid stuff like Orson Fortune and Wrath of Man and Ministry of blah blah, where he goes through the motions and everything should work in theory but it comes out as weirdly limp, straight to streaming fluff.

Tarantino keeps making jumps that defy expectation (Death Proof being the exception) but Ritchie never pulled them off but even when he just wants to go back to what works for him it's 50/50.
 

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I would characterize Swept Away and Revolver as "The Madonna Era", and Man from UNCLE and King Arthur as equally valid attempts to sell out as Aladdin and Sherlock Holmes. Rocknrolla and The Gentlemen were decent send-ups to the good old days of Lock Stock/Snatch, but then on the other hand you have this insipid stuff like Orson Fortune and Wrath of Man and Ministry of blah blah, where he goes through the motions and everything should work in theory but it comes out as weirdly limp, straight to streaming fluff.

Tarantino keeps making jumps that defy expectation (Death Proof being the exception) but Ritchie never pulled them off but even when he just wants to go back to what works for him it's 50/50.
Funny enough, while I rather enjoyed Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, it had a similar issue as Tarantino’s own Inglorious Basterds. The advertising for it was selling a zany, mad cap action film with colourful characters killing Nazis. And while that does happen, there’s also a slower paced espionage thriller plot going on.
 

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The Substance: Gross / Great

An aging television fitness instructor is told, in no uncertain terms, that she is past her prime, and network executives are seeking a younger, hotter replacement. Facing that reality, she is in a car crash than lands her in the hospital where a nurse slips her a mysterious flash drive with a phone number on it. Turns out it leads her down an ominous rabbit hole to the titular substance which allows her to create a younger doppelganger, and regain her youth and maintain her fame. But there's a heavy price.

Really was not what I was expecting. Obvious themes of narcissism that I anticipated aside, the grotesquerie comes out of nowhere like a freight train. Again, body horror will always have me squirming in my seat, so this film was custom made for anyone who's not me. One question for anyone else who's seen it: did she/they not maintain a singular consciousness? I mean, I was under the impression that'd be the case, but almost immediately, they felt like two very different people who ended up fighting for their turn with consciousness. Elisabeth is almost instantly jealous of Sue, but I thought the whole point was supposed to be that Elisabeth IS Sue. Even the voice on the phone kept reiterating "you are the same," but clearly the two had to very different agendas. Anyway, watch if you want to, but can't recommend.
 
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The Godfather Trilogy

Another example of movies that have had so much written about them that I consider it mostly a waste of my and your time to write about them from a critical perspective at great length aside from a very basic personal assessment of "The first one is really good, the second one is overrated, the third one is underrated." Which is why, rather than greatly elaborating on it, I'd much rather talk about the series as a whole and what I think it means.

The Godfather movies retell the history of the United States in the 20th Century as the history of organized crime. Primary viewpoint character throughout the series is Michael Corleone, played by Al Pacino. Michael is the son of underworld Kingpin Vito Corleone, famously played by Marlon Brando, a veteran of World War 2 and the member of the family that was meant to live a life on the straight and narrow. An assassination attempt on his father involves him in a gang war that eventually leads him to inherit his fathers position as the patriarch of the syndicate, broadly speaking the first movies plot, the development and decline of which the latter two movies chronicle.

The Godfather movies are, by most accounts, not a realistic depiction of organized crime and even on face value it's clear that their focus on the politicking between Cosa Nostra aristocracy and the way they are mostly glossing over the lives of the disposable grunts at the bottom makes for a fairly reductive depiction of the subject matter, but it's also clear that Godfather uses this setup of crime and family melodrama as a lense through which to view its particular slice of history.

The observations it all but spells out that the managerial side of organized crime is both inseparable from and widely identical to that of politics and business are rather trite and obvious and were probably hardly groundbreaking, even when it came out. What makes the series interesting is in how specifically it ties the history of the Corleone family to the history of the United States. Vito Corleone came to America as an immigrant with nothing to his name. He grew up in a lawless and neglected immigrant neighborhood in New York City. It's not despite but because of the fact that he pursued success outside of the law that that he and his family rose to a status of wealth and respect and became, however begrudgingly, part of the moneyed elite.

Michael, a war veteran and college educated prodigy, was supposed to leave the criminal side of the family business behind and make the name Corleone as clean and respectable as those of the descendants of all the Anglo, Germanic and Jewish robber barons that built the American Empire had become at this point, a pie in the sky he would pursue for the rest of his life. The realization that's spelled out in the third movie is , of course, that, the higher he ascended in terms of social status, the dirtier business became. Between young Vito Corleone who shot the previous kingpin in his squalid immigrant neighbourhood, something that public law enforcement and local politics would have dismissed as a bunch of greasy foreign peasants acting according to some inherent violent nature (as they still would now), young Michael who gunned down a rival and a corrupt cop in a restaurant as part of a family feud and old Michael who owns multiple businesses in Vegas and has shares in IBM, yet still has to sleep with one eye open lest he's the next one to catch a bullet, it is clear that earning respect while maintaining respectability would never be an option.

Which isn't to say that he's a fundamentally decent person or a victim of circumstance, no one in his position ever would be, but there's a certain tragedy to his sisyphean pursuit of legitimacy in which he never quite manages to face that even those who seem to have reached it are really just faking it. To the fact that even after working with the jewish businessmen and WASP senators and Swiss bankers and of all things, the Vatican, he believes there is some event horizon that he'll cross when there'll be an end to the blackmail and the threats and the backroom deals and the murders and the cover-ups. That he never quite manages to accept that that is all there is to it, all the way up.

Up to the end he believes that the exit will be finally there, after one last deal has been closed, one last competitor is taken out, that then he will be redeemed and along with him his legacy and his family name, while in reality it's only the scope that changes, never the nature and not even the methods.

In another great American trilogy, it's postulated that the oldest lie in America is that power can be innocent. The Godfather trilogy is, at the end of the day, all about the folly of finding absolution through the pursuit of power and wealth rather than in its refusal. Michael Corleone's fate was sealed, the moment he chose to involve himself in the family business rather than putting his college education to use to pursue a legitimate career that might have never seen him rise to heights of wealth and influence he accumulated throughout his life, yet might have also spared him the guilt and loss that came with it.

I could now conclude this by writing that the Godfather trilogy is about the false promise of the American Dream, which I'm aware, would be an unforgivable cliche. Even if it wouldn't be inaccurate. However, I prefer to say that it's about the impossibility to rise above a system built on the survival of the strongest. About believing that there is an end, to it, a way to come out on the other side, to "win" it and take that win to the bank and to use it to absolve yourself and your children from its corruption. Like so many stories we are expected to believe, it's a falsehood. The only way to break out of the cycle is to deny it completely. Maybe that's the only way not to lose everything that holds meaning to you.

Coming soon, my comparative analysis of the Godfather series and the No More Heroes series. (That was a joke, please don't hold me to it)
 
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