US 2024 Presidential Election

[tstorm823]

There's all sorts of arguments around about context and Elon being just weird in general, but more important than any of that nonsense, that's not a Nazi salute. A Nazi salute has the fingers and thumb flattened to a plane and pointed out in line with the rest of the arm back to the shoulder. Elon gestured with his hand lifted up to have his palm face outward and his thumb in a natural position. The story here is basically "Republican Straightens Elbow".

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

There's all sorts of arguments around about context and Elon being just weird in general, but more important than any of that nonsense, that's not a Nazi salute. A Nazi salute has the fingers and thumb flattened to a plane and pointed out in line with the rest of the arm back to the shoulder. Elon gestured with his hand lifted up to have his palm face outward and his thumb in a natural position. The story here is basically "Republican Straightens Elbow".

"He did the nazi salute badly because he doesn't know how to do it" is not a great defense to doing a nazi salute on stage.

 

[Gordon_4]

When in doubt, always consult this handy dandy guide.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

that's not a Nazi salute
(...)
"Republican Straightens Elbow".

 

[Hades]

That Trump, the traitor in chief behind the coup would pardon the henchmen from the coup is gross, but entirely in line with expectation.

But let’s remember that aside from objectively bad people the traitors were also complete idiots. They spend years in jail out of desperation to make Trump an illegitimate president, but if they just did the bare minimum of not doing a coup they’d be free, and he’d have been president a few years down the line anyway.

 

[Chimpzy]

Yeah lads, Musk was just doing the Roman salute. Completely different. Or maybe throwing its heart equivalent out to the people. Granted, in a way that looks really awkward and resembles a certain mustachiod mass murderer's way of saluting, but otherwise entirely innocuous.

On a completely unrelated note, this. In case anyone finds use for it.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

 

[Thaluikhain]

Though I fear this might bar me from ever visting the US ever again I will note that these people tend to act as if there are nobody out there with the will to act against them.

These people are so removed from the world that they do whatever they want, whenever they heil, they invoke nazi ideals, they attack innocents, and they believe they'll get away with it.

Well, they tend to be seldom wrong about that. Now, some of them face consequences for their own stupidity, but generally not in the form of people acting against them.

 

[Trunkage]

This isn't a tax plan or what to budget for or some shit. People voting for Harris know she was in support of letting Israel do a Genocide. Voting for Harris was a vote to continue the genocide. You can flower up your position all you want by saying "Oh well I support Harris but not THAT part" but a vote for Harris is looking to have literally been a vote for Genocide. If you can't put a Red Line for your support for a candidate at genocide (and yes, voting for the candidate IS supporting them), you do not have a Red Line.

But that's an argument that has been going on in this thread since everyone whined about me voting Third Party so there's no need to keep rehashing it.

Again, utter failure of imagination

You keep pretending it can't be a bigger genocide. Which is ludicrous. They haven't even killed 10% of the Palestinians yet. They want to kill all of them. Why would it get better if you voted for Trump or did aa you did, which ends up with Trump getting in?

Harris might have gotten another 200k killed. Trump would have gone for million. You personally helped the guy who wants to invade on behalf of Bibi and think that's a morally good choice

It's ludicrous.

Notice that I quite plainly pointed out that Harris is bad and evil. Totally agree. And?

You picked what could have been the greater amount of deaths. Thanks Tippy for being so moral.

Fuck, I hope a ceasefire holds because otherwise we better get ready for a genocide like we haven't seen

 

[Chimpzy]

Bit of levity. Zuck doing its best Beeker impression at the inauguration

 

[Chimpzy]

It's just a non-stop stream of bangers

Restoring Names That Honor American Greatness – The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.

www.whitehouse.gov

Mount Denali in Alaska to be renamed Mount Mckinley, and the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America.

Coming soon: order to make Mount Rushmore into Trump, Musk, a second Trump, and a third Trump. Washington Monument renamed to Trump's Schlong.

 

[Hades]

There's all sorts of arguments around about context and Elon being just weird in general, but more important than any of that nonsense, that's not a Nazi salute. A Nazi salute has the fingers and thumb flattened to a plane and pointed out in line with the rest of the arm back to the shoulder. Elon gestured with his hand lifted up to have his palm face outward and his thumb in a natural position. The story here is basically "Republican Straightens Elbow".

I agree it’s not the literal 1930 Nazi salute. But I doubt it’s just an “unflattering angle either”

far more likely is that it’s Elon’s personal variant of the pose by which he can dog whistle to his fellow believers while winking at the camera and go “hurr hurr you can’t even stretch your arm these days!”

 

[tstorm823]

"He did the nazi salute badly because he doesn't know how to do it" is not a great defense to doing a nazi salute on stage.

You know what a presupposition is, right?

 

[Agema]

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Sure, but in terms of angles, a Nazi salute should also point straight ahead from the body rather than to the side as Musk did, nor as I recall (mostly from WW2 movies) is it launched from the left side of the chest in a wide-sweeping lateral movement.

Let's face it, that was not a Nazi salute.

 

[Satinavian]

Sure, but in terms of angles, a Nazi salute should also point straight ahead from the body rather than to the side as Musk did, nor as I recall (mostly from WW2 movies) is it launched from the left side of the chest in a wide-sweeping lateral movement.

Let's face it, that was not a Nazi salute.

It was close enough.

And after intervening for some UK neonazi and openly supporting the AfD, i am pretty sure it was deliberately close. He also did it two times, that was no coincidence or mistake. It was just off enough to fish for plausible deniability. He might have wanted that controvery to get the conversation away from the work visa infighting.

 

[Hades]

I guess it a purely theoretical sense it may be possible someone does a pose akin to a Nazi salute twice, but I’m not sure why anyone would give Musk the benefit of that doubt.

When such a pose is done twice by an AFD supporting apartheid kid with a post in a far right administration it’s simply more likely that it’s not some really weird coincidence.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I guess it a purely theoretical sense it may be possible someone does a pose akin to a Nazi salute twice, but I’m not sure why anyone would give Musk the benefit of that doubt.

When such a pose is done twice by an AFD supporting apartheid kid with a post in a far right administration it’s simply more likely that it’s not some really weird coincidence.

Also, if he's not actually doing a Nazi salute, it doesn't mean he's a nice guy after all anyway.

 

[Chimpzy]

I guess it a purely theoretical sense it may be possible someone does a pose akin to a Nazi salute twice, but I’m not sure why anyone would give Musk the benefit of that doubt.

When such a pose is done twice by an AFD supporting apartheid kid with a post in a far right administration it’s simply more likely that it’s not some really weird coincidence.

You're forgetting the Nazi grandparents.

 

[tippy2k2]

There's all sorts of arguments around about context and Elon being just weird in general, but more important than any of that nonsense, that's not a Nazi salute. A Nazi salute has the fingers and thumb flattened to a plane and pointed out in line with the rest of the arm back to the shoulder. Elon gestured with his hand lifted up to have his palm face outward and his thumb in a natural position. The story here is basically "Republican Straightens Elbow".

When you get to work, I'd like you to go in front of your coworkers/boss, tell them you love them from the bottom of your heart, and then make that Elon's "not a Nazi salute" to them

(If you're too shy to do that in front of everyone, just do it in the lunchroom or wherever others gather to no one when people are around)

 

[Silvanus]

Sure, but in terms of angles, a Nazi salute should also point straight ahead from the body rather than to the side as Musk did, nor as I recall (mostly from WW2 movies) is it launched from the left side of the chest in a wide-sweeping lateral movement.

Let's face it, that was not a Nazi salute.

It is not identical to the salutes used by '30s and '40s German Nazi supporters.

It is, however, obviously supposed to be evocative. There is nothing else it could realistically be.

Neo-nazi scumbags use variants and stand-ins to fly under the radar. Just as they do with numerical stand-ins like 14 and 88. Contextually we know what the neo-Nazi scumbags mean.

I have very little doubt Musk, a vocal supporter of fascist and quasi-fascist or white-supremacist figures in the UK and Germany, was sending a neo-Nazi dogwhistle. He probably associates the neo-Nazi shit with fringe online alt-right communities he's familiar with, in the vein of 8-Chan.

I also have very little doubt that although half the modern Republican Party is anachronistically ignorant, the other half is welcoming neo-Nazi dogwhistle politics with open arms (and this latter group includes Trump).