Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

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Egypt and Jordan didn't allow the humanitarian corridors because Biden had no plans to allow the Palestinians to go back to Gaza after. There are already US soldiers there and have been for the last year. I can't help it if you aren't paying attention.
No, that is not quite right.

Egypt and Jordan didn't allow the humanitarian corridors because Netanyahu had no plans to allow the Palestinians to go back to Gaza after. Biden didn't really care either way. He would have taken any agreement just to get out of this mess without having to do something. He also complained more about the Israelis than about the Palestinians when such an agreement didn't manifest. But still couldn't bother to do anything.
 

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No, that is not quite right.

Egypt and Jordan didn't allow the humanitarian corridors because Netanyahu had no plans to allow the Palestinians to go back to Gaza after. Biden didn't really care either way. He would have taken any agreement just to get out of this mess without having to do something. He also complained more about the Israelis than about the Palestinians when such an agreement didn't manifest. But still couldn't bother to do anything.
Functionally identical, but plausible.
 

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Can we get some opinions on the ''Lets surrender the US and the world to Trump for the sake of Gaza!'' crowd?

Do you guys feel betrayed that the guy who everyone knew only had the worst of intentions for Palestinians would escalate the brutality as everyone expected, or are you ready to admit you all never cared and that it was just a stick to beat the Democrats with to get Trump into power?
 

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It is pretty comical to be constantly called self righteous by someone literally plugging their ears to crow about their superiority. I suppose this is enough to call everyone who chastises us hypocrites?
It's absolutely bonkers to me that Liberals watched Biden set the foundation for what Trump is continuing and go "Har har guess you should have voted Harris!!!"

Palestinians are nothing but pieces on a board to use to dunk on people who didn't want to vote for The Blue Colored Genocide to them. But I suppose it's a lot easier to say this is our fault for voting against genocide than it is to hold anyone with actual power accountable for the shit they do in office.
 
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None of you feel any joy in Trump standing next to Netanyahu and basically saying "oh, you wanted Gaza? Nah, it's ours now."?
 

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The entire point of this exercise was to remove Palestinians and take their land. Why is Gaza in this position in the first place? Who's bombs led to this? Who was cheerleading this whole affair? History didn't start on January 20th, just like it didn't start in October 2023.

Both those things are equivalent, because that was the point the whole time. Kamala would be talking about humanitarian corridors and US efforts in rebuilding the strip, but it would be dressed up language covering up what is for Trump naked ambition. Ethnic cleansing for a land grab. Middle Eastern leaders are just less naive than you.
You say "middle eastern leaders are just less naive", but middle Eastern leaders-- including Hamas-- are treating this as an escalation. "Pouring oil on the fire" was the term, I believe.

Indeed, history didn't begin on January 20th or October '23. That's how we know that successive governments in Israel have been ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank for decades upon decades. And in all that time, for various reasons, they have not practically approached the scale of what Trump is now proposing.