Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Phoenixmgs]

So why did you start talking about FDA approval rather than that CDC recommendation for its usage? I don't think you really even know; you're just muddling everything together as what the evil guvment sez.

I never said approval. If I ever did say approval, it was a mistake.

I said this:

Recommending covid boosters, it was why the 2 FDA directors quit.

Then, I posted this:

Another mixed message came in August 2021: President Joe Biden promoted booster shots for American adults even though boosters had not been approved by the FDA yet.

A month later, the FDA advisory committee overwhelmingly voted against the recommendation to offer boosters to people under age 65, because there wasn’t enough evidence at the time that an extra dose would improve protection to people of all ages.

Paul Offit looks back on COVID-19, misinformation, and how public health lost the public’s trust in new book

"Tell Me When It's Over" chronicles the first years of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the mishaps of public health agencies.

www.inquirer.com

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Again, you gonna admit eating fat doesn't make you fat yet due to the overwhelming evidence point to that?

Who SPECIFICALLY is saying this?

If it's immunologist.... yeah they just want to stop people from dying. 50K Americans dying to the flu every years is stupid to them when they could reduce it to almost zero

The Dems and Republicans both understand that 100% coverage is almost impossible and costly so they settle for 50K dead Americans each year.... well at least until 2020. Now I don't know how many millions Republicans are willing to kill

Is there someone else?

Silvanus

I'm pretty sure you can't reduce the flu to almost zero as the flu shot isn't nearly as effective as you probably think it is. There's some randomized studies that show taking vitamin d is more effective than the flu shot against the flu. And if it's just the US being lazy about it, why does the rest of the world have issue with flu deaths? Also, kids are IIRC the primary driver of spreading the flu, so why not close schools for that then (instead of for covid when kids didn't spread covid)?

 

[Silvanus]

I never said approval. If I ever did say approval, it was a mistake.

I could believe that, if you hadn't been talking about the FDA.

Again, you gonna admit eating fat doesn't make you fat yet due to the overwhelming evidence point to that?

You keep just reducing this to "fats". Nobody is claiming unsaturated fats in moderation are making people fat. As soon as you present a question that isn't a simplistic strawman, I'll answer it in earnest.

Silvanus

No, I'm not saying "everyone needed a covid booster". This is a lie.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I could believe that, if you hadn't been talking about the FDA.



You keep just reducing this to "fats". Nobody is claiming unsaturated fats in moderation are making people fat. As soon as you present a question that isn't a simplistic strawman, I'll answer it in earnest.



No, I'm not saying "everyone needed a covid booster". This is a lie.

I did just quote myself with this source about the FDA. The fact that the president said everyone can get boosters before they were approved is problematic.

Another mixed message came in August 2021: President Joe Biden promoted booster shots for American adults even though boosters had not been approved by the FDA yet.

A month later, the FDA advisory committee overwhelmingly voted against the recommendation to offer boosters to people under age 65, because there wasn’t enough evidence at the time that an extra dose would improve protection to people of all ages.

Paul Offit looks back on COVID-19, misinformation, and how public health lost the public’s trust in new book

"Tell Me When It's Over" chronicles the first years of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the mishaps of public health agencies.

www.inquirer.com

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You did literally say this. People eating fatty foods (natural fats) helps in losing weight. Pretty much every study on low-fat diets shows it makes you lose less weight than if you ate a diet where you didn't cut out fats. Telling people not to have full fat dairy, eggs, red meat, etc is only causing people to gain more weight. Do you know that most people think the bad stuff on pizza is the cheese and the toppings? That's the healthy stuff! The crust and tomato sauce are horrible for you.

Food and drink with high fat content shouldn't be able to put "healthy" on the label in the middle of an obesity epidemic.

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You at least said it would be beneficial then if everyone got a booster.

 

[Silvanus]

I did just quote myself with this source about the FDA. The fact that the president said everyone can get boosters before they were approved is problematic.

OK, but that's not what you said in the post I referred to. You said the FDA approved things that "the science" said shouldn't be approved.

You did literally say this.

You say I "literally said this", and then quote me saying something that's clearly not the same.

You at least said it would be beneficial then if everyone got a booster.

What did I actually say?

 

[Phoenixmgs]

OK, but that's not what you said in the post I referred to. You said the FDA approved things that "the science" said shouldn't be approved.



You say I "literally said this", and then quote me saying something that's clearly not the same.



What did I actually say?

Like I said, if I said approval, then I made a mistake. The recommendation was the issue that caused other issues.

Why wouldn't something that has "high" fat be considered healthy in an obesity epidemic?

Why'd you produce a study that said that then?

 

[Silvanus]

Like I said, if I said approval, then I made a mistake. The recommendation was the issue that caused other issues.

And like I said, why were you then talking about the FDA?

Why wouldn't something that has "high" fat be considered healthy in an obesity epidemic?

Contextually, depending on the person, it could be a healthy choice. Labelling something as healthy means that's a very broad recommendation, for the population at large. And the American population at large has a massive calorie surplus, and already gets a huge amount of fat.

Why'd you produce a study that said that then?

I didn't. You can't read scientific papers well.

 

[Gergar12]

We are screwed—unchecked power in the hands of one party. The republican party has won.

 

[Thaluikhain]

We are screwed—unchecked power in the hands of one party. The republican party has won.

Mostly by the other team deciding to forfeit, though. Nothing stopping the Democrats, even now, from deciding to try doing things.