US 2024 Presidential Election

[Silvanus]

The West literally participated in overthrowing their government.

Don't they know only Russia are allowed to interfere in Ukraine's politics? That's their sphere of influence!

(1. Western involvement in Maidan was paltry, dwarfed by Russian involvement in Ukrainian politics;
2. Russian integration was dismally unpopular, sorry;
3. The Yanukovych government was even more so when they launched the violent crackdown, assisted by Russian security services).

 

[Agema]

(1. Western involvement in Maidan was paltry, dwarfed by Russian involvement in Ukrainian politics;

Oh god is one of them banging on about that again?

They hate the West so much that it is is very hard for them to understand that any country might desire closer integration with it. Therefore, it needs to be rationalised away that the West has tricked them into liking capitalism and closer integration with the West. And this is the sort of thing I mean by saying that they deny Ukrainians agency. (Although one might contrast that with their enthusiasm for Ukrainian agency when Russia and its Donbas lickspittles run sham referenda.)

I think the worst thing about a lot of their sanctimonious drivel is the way they pretend that they care about people. Actually, I think they're filled with a huge amount of hate and rage. In choosing "wrong" by wanting closer integration with the West, they now hate Ukrainians, and I suspect that's much of why they so freely accept Kremlin propaganda lines: it's so much easier to accept lies about people you hate and some level they want Ukrainians punished and suffering.

 

[Hades]

The West literally participated in overthrowing their government.

It wasn't ''their government'' anymore. It was Putin's government. And it was the Ukrainian public that kicked the traitor out exactly because of that. Its weird to assume a nation's people wouldn't have any reason to be outraged when their leader turns out to be owned by a hostile power. A hostile power with a very long history of doing Ukraine harm.

nonsense.

It was indeed nonsense that Putin thought he could just publicly parade Yanukovitch as his puppet without this backfiring.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Hey remember when Trump promised that Medicaid wouldn't be touched?

Trump Says Medicaid Won’t Be ‘Touched.’ House Republicans Want It Cut by Hundreds of Billions.

The president’s record shows a consistent openness to Medicaid cuts, which would seem required for his big goal of extending tax cuts.

www.nytimes.com

Well guess what's getting cut motherfuckers.

House Passes G.O.P. Budget Teeing Up Enormous Tax and Spending Cuts

The vote cleared the way to enact major elements of President Trump’s domestic agenda and escalated a bitter fight among Republicans over what federal programs to slash to finance major tax cuts.

www.nytimes.com

But you know, it's all worth it to give more money to billionaires who already have too much to spend.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Searching for "Well now, none of us is going to faint with amazement at that" (which is a quote from Blake's 7, hoping for a nice gif), without quote marks, gets me some impressively garbage results.

 

[Gordon_4]

Searching for "Well now, none of us is going to faint with amazement at that" (which is a quote from Blake's 7, hoping for a nice gif), without quote marks, gets me some impressively garbage results.

Is that a Kerr Avon quote?

 

[Thaluikhain]

Is that a Kerr Avon quote?

It is, the teleporter fails again in the 4th season episode "Sand".

Funny, anything else I've seen Paul Darrow in, he's mediocre at best, but did so well as Avon.

 

[Gordon_4]

It is, the teleporter fails again in the 4th season episode "Sand".

Funny, anything else I've seen Paul Darrow in, he's mediocre at best, but did so well as Avon.

He was pretty good in a six part Robin Hood show from the same era as Blake’s 7 and he’s a lot of fun in The Old Republic

 

[Thaluikhain]

He was pretty good in a six part Robin Hood show from the same era as Blake’s 7 and he’s a lot of fun in The Old Republic

Ah, well, not seen those, so can't comment.

 

[tstorm823]

Hey remember when Trump promised that Medicaid wouldn't be touched?

Trump Says Medicaid Won’t Be ‘Touched.’ House Republicans Want It Cut by Hundreds of Billions.

The president’s record shows a consistent openness to Medicaid cuts, which would seem required for his big goal of extending tax cuts.

www.nytimes.com

Well guess what's getting cut motherfuckers.

House Passes G.O.P. Budget Teeing Up Enormous Tax and Spending Cuts

The vote cleared the way to enact major elements of President Trump’s domestic agenda and escalated a bitter fight among Republicans over what federal programs to slash to finance major tax cuts.

www.nytimes.com

That doesn't actually say that.

 

[Silvanus]

That doesn't actually say that.

It indeed doesn't mention Medicaid. It directs the Energy and Commerce Committee to find $880bn in savings from within its jurisdiction, without specifying where from.

But there isn't $880bn in their jurisdiction without including Medicaid. So although it doesn't mention Medicaid, it cannot be fulfilled without touching Medicaid-- unless I'm mistaken?

 

[tstorm823]

It indeed doesn't mention Medicaid. It directs the Energy and Commerce Committee to find $880bn in savings from within its jurisdiction, without specifying where from.

But there isn't $880bn in their jurisdiction without including Medicaid. So although it doesn't mention Medicaid, it cannot be fulfilled without touching Medicaid-- unless I'm mistaken?

You may be missing that is $880bn over 10 years, so average $88bn per year from a $1.7 trillion budget with currently $130bn in discretionary spending.