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For the same reason they wrongly detained and handcuffed Jensy Machado, presumably. ICE themselves have acknowledged they make "collateral arrests" (a phrase that makes me sick to my stomach).

Also: ICE doesn't just arrest illegal immigrants. Behold, ICE arresting a permanent legal resident of the United States, and the President referring to it as "the first arrest of many".



Jensy Machado is the story because he's the one who was able to speak to reporters. If those other two are still detained in an ICE facility somewhere, then they ain't speaking to any reporters, regardless of innocence.
But if you were a reporter and heard that story, wouldn't you ask about those 2 other people (you can talk to Jensy obviously)? And then if you think there's anything there, you can, you know, look into that as that is literally your job. A guy like Jensy being handcuffed is not much of a story when we don't know the details of exactly what he did. It's like when famous football player Tyreek Hill got handcuffed a few months back for speeding and he was complaining about the cops being racist and then when you watch the video of the altercation, you're like "yeah, if anyone acted like that to the cops, they would get handcuffed too".

Definitely looks like that guy shouldn't be detained and he will get released and it's definitely a bad thing. Funny that you only complain when an administration you don't like does stuff like this. For example, look what happened to Siaka Massaquoi, I didn't see you post a complaint about that.

And like I previously said, reporters/journalists can do their jobs and look into the other 2 people.
 

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But if you were a reporter and heard that story, wouldn't you ask about those 2 other people (you can talk to Jensy obviously)? And then if you think there's anything there, you can, you know, look into that as that is literally your job. A guy like Jensy being handcuffed is not much of a story when we don't know the details of exactly what he did.
Uhrm, yeah, they did ask him, and he said he doesn't know why they were taken away. Who's to say the reporters aren't investigating? Maybe they are. But ICE don't exactly publicise where people are detained or let reporters freely enter and ask questions.

Definitely looks like that guy shouldn't be detained and he will get released and it's definitely a bad thing.
He'll "definitely be released", eh? This wasn't a mistake. Donald Trump is tweeting that the arrest is the "first of many". Trump's appointed border czar Tom Homan has said ICE "absolutely can" arrest legal migrants.

Funny that you only complain when an administration you don't like does stuff like this. For example, look what happened to Siaka Massaquoi, I didn't see you post a complaint about that.
What the hell does that have to do with ICE targeting legal migrants? This is irrelevant whataboutism. You asked why ICE would target people who weren't illegal immigrants, and so I directly answered that question, and now you're whining that I did.
 
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This is irrelevant whataboutism.
Which is all he ever does. You obviously know how he works at this point.

I've been playing Slave Zero X, and it's pretty much implied and stated that the main hero is taking revenge for his lost lover and soul mate who is also a man. Both are pretty boys. I have no issues with this, but I am surprised the anti-woke brigade didn't raise a fuss on this. I'm glad they didn't, and as we've proven whenever they try to go anywhere near indie titles, the actual gamers and the entire indie community collectively tells them to fuck off. Especially when they make bigger clowns of themselves than usual.
 

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Uhrm, yeah, they did ask him, and he said he doesn't know why they were taken away. Who's to say the reporters aren't investigating? Maybe they are. But ICE don't exactly publicise where people are detained or let reporters freely enter and ask questions.



He'll "definitely be released", eh? This wasn't a mistake. Donald Trump is tweeting that the arrest is the "first of many". Trump's appointed border czar Tom Homan has said ICE "absolutely can" arrest legal migrants.



What the hell does that have to do with ICE targeting legal migrants? This is irrelevant whataboutism. You asked why ICE would target people who weren't illegal immigrants, and so I directly answered that question, and now you're whining that I did.
I'm sure he knows who the people were that he was driving. The reporter can't look them up?

And courts can and will reverse that. You can override law via executive orders for example. Biden purposefully broke the constitution multiple times and courts reversed his orders.

Illegally detaining people is kinda the same thing. Funny how you don't look into what administrations that you like do but constantly complain about ones you don't like.
 

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I'm sure he knows who the people were that he was driving. The reporter can't look them up?
...? Uhrm, yes, and how would that solve the question of why they were detained?

And courts can and will reverse that. You can override law via executive orders for example. Biden purposefully broke the constitution multiple times and courts reversed his orders.
This just sounds like you've got zero problem with the government illegally arresting people if there's the hypothetical possibility that the judiciary could overturn it.

So why the problem with Biden's 'illegal' orders? The courts could overturn them, so no problem, right? Coolsies.

Illegally detaining people is kinda the same thing. Funny how you don't look into what administrations that you like do but constantly complain about ones you don't like.
You asked me why ICE would detain someone who isn't an illegal immigrant. You asked. I merely answered your question. Why ask if you were just going to whine when I answered? Did you not actually want the answer?
 

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Illegally detaining people is kinda the same thing. Funny how you don't look into what administrations that you like do but constantly complain about ones you don't like.
You asked me why ICE would detain someone who isn't an illegal immigrant.
Allow me to hold both of your heads under the waters of knowledge for a moment. A citizen may be detained by ICE if they have committed an offence relating to the crossing of borders such as entering on false passports. Also, when serving a warrant or raid, law enforcement tend to hoover up basically everyone present and sort them out in detention. Very seldom does anyone truly find themselves caught up in these situations completely unknowingly like they're the protagonist of a Jim Varney film. Provided ICE cannot prove the driver has committed an offence, he'll be interviewed, processed, be given a talking to and yeeted out the door because the Immigration officers have better shit to do.
 

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Allow me to hold both of your heads under the waters of knowledge for a moment. A citizen may be detained by ICE if they have committed an offence relating to the crossing of borders such as entering on false passports.
Or if they look wrong.

Very seldom does anyone truly find themselves caught up in these situations completely unknowingly like they're the protagonist of a Jim Varney film.
Apologies, but this sort of sounds like arguing that if ICE detains or arrests someone, there must be a good reason. We know the incidence of malfeasance in American law enforcement is staggering. ICE themselves acknowledge so-called "collateral"-- and they certainly wouldn't acknowledge it at all if the incidence were low or easy to sweep under the rug.

Provided ICE cannot prove the driver has committed an offence, he'll be interviewed, processed, be given a talking to and yeeted out the door because the Immigration officers have better shit to do.
"Better" is in the eye of the beholder there. A whole string of investigations has shed light on severe abuse in ICE facilities, ranging from medical deprivation and denial of legal rights to outright physical abuse. It seems quite a chunk of that agency will spend its time meting out power fantasies or racist whims, safe in the knowledge they won't be meaningfully held to account.
 

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Apologies, but this sort of sounds like arguing that if ICE detains or arrests someone, there must be a good reason. We know the incidence of malfeasance in American law enforcement is staggering. ICE themselves acknowledge so-called "collateral"-- and they certainly wouldn't acknowledge it at all if the incidence were low or easy to sweep under the rug.
Once again, this guy was driving them around. Yes, he gets hoovered up with the actual subject of the warrant. That is standard practice in basically every law enforcement branch on planet earth. He didn't wander between the agents and these poor sods while eating a doughnut and looking vacantly at the sky like Ernest.


"Better" is in the eye of the beholder there. A whole string of investigations has shed light on severe abuse in ICE facilities, ranging from medical deprivation and denial of legal rights to outright physical abuse. It seems quite a chunk of that agency will spend its time meting out power fantasies or racist whims, safe in the knowledge they won't be meaningfully held to account.
Yes, and everyone involved in them should have been flogged and imprisoned and never be permitted to hold a position of authority over anything more sentient than apple.
 

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Uttering the phrase "animal spirits of the stock market" while employed by the government should be immediate grounds for psychiatric evaluation.
Eh no, animal spirits is an real economic term coined by one the big brains of capitalism, James Maynard Keynes. It's a concept similar to lizard brain, and refers to the instincts and emotions that affect human behavior, and in turn consumer confidence and financial decision making. An example of animal spirits driving the market would be when there's some kind of disaster, or war, or a K-addled ceo does a nazi salute, and as a result investors start panic selling off stocks en masse.

It's being used correctly in this instance. But it's not so much the use of the term I find funny, as it is the idea of this administration having read Keynes.
 
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Once again, this guy was driving them around. Yes, he gets hoovered up with the actual subject of the warrant. That is standard practice in basically every law enforcement branch on planet earth. He didn't wander between the agents and these poor sods while eating a doughnut and looking vacantly at the sky like Ernest.
Firstly: Machado was driving with people who were then taken away. You are inferring that they were the subject of an arrest warrant from that, just as others have inferred that they must have been illegal immigrants because they were arrested. But no: all we know is they were taken away. Machado reported that when the car was stopped, they gave him the name of someone they were looking for-- not anyone Machado knew, and not a passenger-- who had given Machado's home address. That appears to be the reason for the stop, not a warrant for the passengers.

Secondly: the section to which you responded was not referring to Jensy Machado, but to Mahmoud Khalil, who was taken away without an arrest warrant by agents specifically looking for him, and is still in a Louisiana detention facility.

Yes, and everyone involved in them should have been flogged and imprisoned and never be permitted to hold a position of authority over anything more sentient than apple.
And now we know they do this shit, we can also stop assuming they must have good reason for other shit they do. They racially profile people. They do so when making stops and detaining people too.
 
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Eh no, animal spirits is an real economic term coined by one the big brains of capitalism, James Maynard Keynes. It's a concept similar to lizard brain, and refers to the instincts and emotions that affect human behavior, and in turn consumer confidence and financial decision making. An example of animal spirits driving the market would be when there's some kind of disaster, or war, or a K-addled ceo does a nazi salute, and as a result investors start panic selling off stocks en masse.

It's being used correctly in this instance. But it's not so much the use of the term I find funny, as it is the idea of this administration having read Keynes.
This may be the case, but I still stand by my post.
 
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...? Uhrm, yes, and how would that solve the question of why they were detained?



This just sounds like you've got zero problem with the government illegally arresting people if there's the hypothetical possibility that the judiciary could overturn it.

So why the problem with Biden's 'illegal' orders? The courts could overturn them, so no problem, right? Coolsies.



You asked me why ICE would detain someone who isn't an illegal immigrant. You asked. I merely answered your question. Why ask if you were just going to whine when I answered? Did you not actually want the answer?
If there was a bigger story there of why they were detained, we'd already know it probably. There's really no reason for this to be a story (at least yet) in the first place. A guy was hassled by cops/ICE and we really have no idea of what happened. You all are complaining about this nothing burger of a story, yet you don't complain when the Biden administration illegally detains people or knowingly makes unconstitutional orders. Again, I keep receipts and I don't understand why anyone votes for either of these horrible parties. You all make fun of the MAGA "cult" but I have several friends on Facebook that put a pic of Kamala as their profile pic on Facebook, that is pretty crazy to me.

I didn't say that. I, in fact, said this:
Definitely looks like that guy shouldn't be detained and he will get released and it's definitely a bad thing.
Like Gordon said, it doesn't seem like ICE was doing anything out of the ordinary. They had reason to be looking for that guy; they found him, questioned him, and let him go. I'm sure if the other people he was driving with that ICE took away was just ordinary people that legally belong in the US, we would know about them by this point. Again, this is a complete nothing burger of a story so far and you guys are whining about it, not me. If only you'd whine about the same nothing burger of stories that are democratic related or even legit very problematic stories involving democrats, but you don't. That's the problem. The one story about that guy from the college is a legit story to talk about. I very much doubt you have posted complaining about the detention of Siaka Massaquoi, funny how that is.
 

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Sir "never trust the official narrative" predictably rolling over like a simpering cuck to show lovely soft white belly to literal unchecked kidnap squads

 
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