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No, US will lose.

Trump managed to annoy/betray/belittle/threaten all his allies. And then start trade wars against the whole. Now a trade war hurts both countries, but when all the other countries only have a trade war against the US and the US has one with each of them, the US will lose. And that seems to be exactly what is happening now.

Trump didn't either in his last term. In fact, Europe rearmed faster under Biden than under Trump - but neither president was responsible, the rearmament happened because Putin started a war.
The US is the most resilient economy in the OECD with the least exposure to world trade in the world as a percentage of gdp so in the short and even medium term we will endure.


The difference between Biden and Trump is that Trump is much better at marketing. And Trump did warn Europe of increasing defense spending well before Russia’s invasion and was more direct about it. All presidents have but he was the only one demonized for following US SOP.
 

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* ICE arrest a legal resident for protesting, and the President celebrates it happening, at around the same time;
* ICE themselves acknowledge they arrest people as "collateral";
* Of the three people in the car, the only one able to speak to reporters was wrongfully detained and handcuffed;
* the others were not the reason the car was pulled, so their presence was incidental.

All of this is, at the least, strong circumstantial evidence.
I was referring to the Jensy Machado incident. You don't know if he was wrongfully detained or handcuffed... You know like nothing about what actually happened.
 

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And Trump did warn Europe of increasing defense spending well before Russia’s invasion and was more direct about it.
Sure.

And not a single country listened to him. Because no European politician could be seen as weak and bullied by (the in Europe extremely unpopular) Trump into doing his bidding. He managed to make it a matter of pride to not increase military spending.

He was and still is a horrible negotiator.
 
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Sure.

And not a single country listened to him. Because no European politician could be seen as weak and bullied by (the in Europe extremely unpopular) Trump into doing his bidding. He managed to make it a matter of pride to not increase military spending.

He was and still is a horrible negotiator.
Well he ended up being right. Again Europe let their pride get in the way of a correct policy correction of defense spending.
 

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I was referring to the Jensy Machado incident. You don't know if he was wrongfully detained or handcuffed... You know like nothing about what actually happened.
Indeed. What I do know is that ICE has a long history of abuse. That they took people away that were there incidentally to their purpose in stopping the car. And that the one available responded reported abuse.
 

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Indeed. What I do know is that ICE has a long history of abuse. That they took people away that were there incidentally to their purpose in stopping the car. And that the one available responded reported abuse.
Hardly abuse... I showed you a video of another person claiming racism, until the cops released the video. People lie all the time. So if a cop pulls over a person for speeding and sees some kinda contraband in the car, are they not supposed to do anything about that because it was incidentally to their purpose?
 

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Hardly abuse... I showed you a video of another person claiming racism, until the cops released the video. People lie all the time. So if a cop pulls over a person for speeding and sees some kinda contraband in the car, are they not supposed to do anything about that because it was incidentally to their purpose?
Once again: they neither observed a crime when pulling the car, nor had any reason to consider him a suspect. You keep comparing this to situations in which police pull someone after observing a crime.
 

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He was already a person of interest.
Presumably you're referring to how someone else had put Machado's home address as their address. A fact which has zero bearing on the people taken away, neither of whom were Machado.
 

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Stan Lee Exploitation Documentary
This gets really disturbing and depressing how many others exploited Stan like that. Don't give the creator of that "documentary" any fucking money. If the info is that important, give it out for free.
 
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Well, you can make whatever assumptions you want. Just as people are inventing speculative reasons for Mahmoud Khalil to be arrested.
At least I can recognize my speculation. I'm curious what drove you to assert that neither of the people ICE took away was who they were looking for.
 

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I am sorry to my European friends, and Canadian friends. There is no winning when you're fighting with the US. Biden, and the democrats kept kicking the can of Russia, and China down the road.

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Dude, you can be so incredibly full of shit.

This is the poison of nationalism, it just makes people stupid. The USA is in a position similar to the UK in 1918: technically top dog at the time, but in truth knowing that the period of pre-eminence is in decline. That's much of what MAGA is about: the howl of rage from people who don't want to accept that their era of dominance is over.

Even if the USA annexes Canada, it's still under 400 million people - far less than China, India, or even the EU. In the long run, power is people and money. What makes the USA top dog is money, but the way China and India's economies are growing, even that's going fast. China is reputedly ahead on a host of important future techs. By PPP, some argue China's economy is already larger than the USA. Trump's vision of future America appears to be some sort of "Fortress North America": but this is really just North Korea strategy on a larger scale. The rest of the world is going to carry on without it.

This mockery of Europe sums up the self-defeating stupidity of it all. Europe is (was?) the USA's ally. In all major conflicts the US has fought in my lifetime, Europe has provided over 10% of the force (including of course cost). The USA is essentially telling Europe "go find other friends". And you know what? That can work. Europe can heavily reduce its shared benefits - trade, tech, influence, etc. - with the USA. Irrespective of where Europe is going, how much Americans and Chinese sneer, it's still 500 million people with a lot of money, and it takes a genuine moron to think that the USA not having that backing it up makes the USA stronger.