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Whatever you Trump bitches say. Then why him leave? Bitchy boy Musk, can't handle criticism for shit.
 
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Even Jon sees the foolishness of complaining the government is finally being held accountable with the money they’re collecting. Especially considering how they sure as hell hold everyone else accountable for far less.



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Whatever you Trump bitches say. Then why him leave? Bitchy boy Musk, can't handle criticism for shit.
It says right in the article that special government employees have a 130 day limit. Confused though, since I thought him being in there at all is what the libs were made about in the first place.
 
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Stop getting your news from shite like "LOSES HIS MIND!!" Youtube clickbait. No, he didn't realise Doge was right. No, he didn't "see the foolishness" of complaining about fucking Doge.

He said, "Oh my god", about a costly failed project. Everybody knows costly failed projects exist. Doge is doing absolutely fuck-all to address things like this; it's a vanity project aimed at indiscriminately firing federal employees, on the whims of college tech bros with zero expertise or insight into the areas they're tasked with cleaning up.
 
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Doge is doing absolutely fuck-all to address things like this; it's a vanity project aimed at indiscriminately firing federal employees, on the whims of college tech bros with zero expertise or insight into the areas they're tasked with cleaning up.
Or firing people in organisations that might threaten them, which is more discriminate but not better.
 

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Stop getting your news from shite like "LOSES HIS MIND!!" Youtube clickbait. No, he didn't realise Doge was right. No, he didn't "see the foolishness" of complaining about fucking Doge.

He said, "Oh my god", about a costly failed project. Everybody knows costly failed projects exist. Doge is doing absolutely fuck-all to address things like this; it's a vanity project aimed at indiscriminately firing federal employees, on the whims of college tech bros with zero expertise or insight into the areas they're tasked with cleaning up.
As long as the video doesn't have any edits to change the interaction, what's the problem? You promoted a left article about butter being worse than seed oils only because it was left wing...

Breaking Points has a much better video on it btw.
 

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If anyone figures out, it’ll be them. Meanwhile in NASA’s 66 years of operation, why hadn’t they figured out how to reuse boosters? Why does it cost taxpayers an exorbitantly greater amount of money for them to do far less with?
Okay...

1) NASA might have been going 66 years, but that doesn't mean the technology to create reusable boosters has existed for 66 years.

2) The USA won the space race in the 1980s, everyone stopped being interested, and space flight was little looked at. This persisted to the early 2000s when a) the Space Shuttles were set for decommissioning and b) interest rekindled because China was becoming competition. At which point the US government effectively threw it open to private tender (e.g. SpaceX). So to all intents and purposes, nobody had been seriously funding NASA to develop better space flight for decades, and when the money finally arrived, much of it was sent to the private sector anyway.

3) NASA does have limitations as a government agency. Failure is embarrassing, and for a government agency funded by taxpayer money like NASA it's particularly embarrassing, especially as that reflects directly on the USA and is potentially hard to justify to the public. NASA therefore is likely to be significantly more risk averse, so it can't afford to blow up every second rocket it tests. It also can't afford to recklessly "move fast and break things" because it's extremely awkward for government agencies to flout laws, regulations and standards made by the government, where private corporations can be less bothered.

4) SpaceX and NASA are not competitors: they are collaborators. It's not just that SpaceX gets a lot of its public funding from NASA, but also that it's able to draw on a lot of NASA's expertise as well. One might note here also that - typically with these sorts of situations - public funding often goes more to "blue sky" research than practical, and it's no exception in space flight. Thus it may not be a surprise that SpaceX is doing most of the work for immediate practical space flight, where NASA is working on stuff with less obvious financial returns.
 
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Stop getting your news from shite like "LOSES HIS MIND!!" Youtube clickbait. No, he didn't realise Doge was right. No, he didn't "see the foolishness" of complaining about fucking Doge.

He said, "Oh my god", about a costly failed project. Everybody knows costly failed projects exist. Doge is doing absolutely fuck-all to address things like this; it's a vanity project aimed at indiscriminately firing federal employees, on the whims of college tech bros with zero expertise or insight into the areas they're tasked with cleaning up.
Regardless of the headline, if it was about the right wing I get the feeling there’d be a lot more criticism than something like, “everyone knows costly failed projects exist”. That’s an excuse like all the government and their cronies in crime have ever given, which is why something like Doge happened in the first place. The current trajectory of debt and waste can’t continue indefinitely without severe repercussions.



But Elon is far richer people will say. Well, yeah, when you’re producing things that many investors find long term value in that tends to happen, unlike others getting rich by doing nothing more than taking advantage of the ones they’re apparently serving.
 

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Regardless of the headline, if it was about the right wing I get the feeling there’d be a lot more criticism than something like, “everyone knows costly failed projects exist”. That’s an excuse like all the government and their cronies in crime have ever given, which is why something like Doge happened in the first place. The current trajectory of debt and waste can’t continue indefinitely without severe repercussions.



But Elon is far richer people will say. Well, yeah, when you’re producing things that many investors find long term value in that tends to happen, unlike others getting rich by doing nothing more than taking advantage of the ones they’re apparently serving.
>suspiciously

This keeps coming up and it's not suspicious. Wealth begets wealth, public figures can cash in in very reasonable and understandable ways, and there's a ton of insider trading. You can point to any individual congress person and explain why they have so much wealth.
Ted Cruz: Is married to a Goldman Sachs executive
Nancy Pelosi: Insider trading (legal)
Bernie Sanders: Wrote a book that's sold well

AIPAC tracker will tell you how much money any congress person gets from AIPAC, Open secrets will breakdown all sorts of funding, but the issue is is that it's very very rare to find illegal streams of money to a congress person, and they're rarely the bulk of their riches anyway. Right wingers will go "hOw CaN pElOsI hAvE sO MuCh MoNeY oN tHaT sAlArY" and it's just my brother in Christ, Citizens United was over a decade ago. It's not a mystery, there's nothing to uncover, and nothing Musk/Trump will do will stop it.

Though I suppose crashing the stock market is a way to take out the insider traders.
 
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Regardless of the headline, if it was about the right wing I get the feeling there’d be a lot more criticism than something like, “everyone knows costly failed projects exist”. That’s an excuse like all the government and their cronies in crime have ever given, which is why something like Doge happened in the first place. The current trajectory of debt and waste can’t continue indefinitely without severe repercussions.
It's not an excuse at all. Projects like BEAD have ended up a waste of time and resources (so far), and that's not disputed or excused here-- though the idea it's wasted $40bn is complete misrepresentation.

My point is that this is absolutely nothing to do with why Doge exists. Doge is doing absolutely nothing to address issues like this. Rather, it is taking an indiscriminate axe to federal agencies, to ensure that public money doesn't get spent on public works, and to ensure his corporate allies can hoover up contracts and assets at a fraction of the price.


But Elon is far richer people will say.
Not only that: Musk is actively helping to funnel wealth towards the ultra-wealthy, including allied congressmen. If you think he's actually tackling entrenched wealth, you're being gullible. He's its agent and facilitator.
 

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Regardless of the headline, if it was about the right wing I get the feeling there’d be a lot more criticism than something like, “everyone knows costly failed projects exist”.
I think a major problem with DOGE is... basically, what the fuck is it doing?

I know what they've told us it's doing, but you'll have to forgive me for saying that Trump administrations have an unusually large honesty and transparency problem. We can see that it has fired - or tried to fire - a huge number of government employees. But all in all, we just have no idea. What are the targets set by which any potential success could be measured - and who is measuring them to see neutrality? Is this an attempt to undermine some element of government? What risks may have been caused - for instance corruption in scraping info from government systems for corporate or partisan political interests? Was it all just theatre, and eventually the smoke of DOGE is going to blow away and it turns out to be nothing?

That’s an excuse like all the government and their cronies in crime have ever given, which is why something like Doge happened in the first place. The current trajectory of debt and waste can’t continue indefinitely without severe repercussions.
You're just going to have forgive me for pointing out that DOGE is potentially one of the most egregious examples of government and "cronies" ever. Or perhaps we might argue that is mis-stating the power dynamic here: it's not that the government has cronies, but that certain corporate interests have overtly taken over the government.
 
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While another shorter term factor might be refinancing U.S. debt.
It's not, though.

Debt becomes more manageable with economic growth. If the US economy grows (and by implication government revenues correspondingly increase), then the debt becomes relatively smaller to the economy and easier to pay. There's no point reducing debt repayment costs if it also reduces national and government income needed to pay those costs.

It's especially problematic if the country is running a deficit, because although the repayments become easier with a reduced interest, the national debt continues to increase relative to the size of the economy, which in the long run makes the debt even less manageable.

Finally, trust matters. Governments perceived to rig the system will lose trust and end up paying higher interest rates anyway.

Yes, indeed this is how the media works on your mind.

On 7th April, Jack Posobiec has posted a graph from 2nd April: but a reader can't readily tell it's 4-5 days out of date from the information supplied. In reality, the Dow Jones at the time Posobiec posted was ~38,000, 10% lower than the ~42,200 in the graph he posted. And thus does he manipulate the minds of readers.
 

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Business gain for whom? The US government isn't supposed to be wielding its power to unduly benefit specific corporate partners-- that's textbook corruption.
Remember all the decrees of "Biden is playing favorites in the market"? Now we have a President who is literally promoting specific companies.
 

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sometime a supercut of elon being clowned on while looking increasingly miserable can be a lil boost for these low energy depressive days
 
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sometime a supercut of elon being clowned on while looking increasingly miserable can be a lil boost for these low energy depressive days
It's tricky. Ultimately, I find it difficult to endorse harassing people over the internet. And yet...

I think there's some degree of public service in bringing very powerful people down to earth. I suspect a lot of these people have lives of heavy isolation from normal people, and lose any sense of what it is to be one. They seamlessly move from their mansions to their social events with other billionaires through chauffeured luxury cars, yachts and private jets, gloriously isolated from the grubby reality the rest of us share.

To them, we of the 99% are disgusting rabble. Elon hates and fears us. Sure, he superficially likes us as long as we meet his narcissistic need for love and admiration, but really he hates and fears us. Getting trolled reinforces that hate and fear. And yet, I think he needs to be exposed to mockery, hate and anger, just to remind him he's not untouchable, and he doesn't have limitless respect.
 
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It's tricky. Ultimately, I find it difficult to endorse harassing people over the internet. And yet...

I think there's some degree of public service in bringing very powerful people down to earth. I suspect a lot of these people have lives of heavy isolation from normal people, and lose any sense of what it is to be one. They seamlessly move from their mansions to their social events with other billionaires through chauffeured luxury cars, yachts and private jets, gloriously isolated from the grubby reality the rest of us share.

To them, we of the 99% are disgusting rabble. Elon hates and fears us. Sure, he superficially likes us as long as we meet his narcissistic need for love and admiration, but really he hates and fears us. Getting trolled reinforces that hate and fear. And yet, I think he needs to be exposed to mockery, hate and anger, just to remind him he's not untouchable, and he doesn't have limitless respect.
To emphasize that disconnect, Musk seems to be streaming from a private jet in that video. I'm pretty sure that's the fasten seatbelts sound near the end.