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This so awesome.
Man Carrying a Thing Mocks Modern 'Masculinity' and the Biatch Ass, Punk Ass, Lame Ass Mothatfucka, Critical Drinker!
 
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It has already been pointed out to you that the expected rate in the general population ranges up to 1,000 per million. Even if the vaccine had absolutely no effect on the heart whatsoever, an average of 1,000 vaccine recipients per million could be expected to have or develop myocarditis.



Jesus Christ. You just gave two stats that aren't limited whatsoever to covid, and then tried to extrapolate a conclusion about covid from them alone.

You have to look at covid-related hospital admissions, and recorded covid cases in the same group over the same period. Since that's what we're actually trying to ascertain.

Again, you're mixing numbers. 1,000 per million is the total population stat, not the stat for that group.

Who hasn't gotten covid at this point? It's well into the 90% range and surely upper 90s at this point. Using the entire population is very valid at this point. If you wanna take away like 5% that might not have actually gotten covid, then OK...

35% were estimated to have gotten covid as of March 2021, this is July 2025!!! No one cares to test kids that don't get sick or hardly get sick from covid, it's a complete waste of a test.
On April 29, the CDC estimated that roughly 35% of the U.S. population had been infected with the virus as of March 2021, about four times higher than the official reported numbers.


Ah, no

This is like homeopathy. The vaccine is a lesser form of the disease. If you are getting damaged by the vaccine, it would have been worse if you got Covid first.

Eg. All those young men geting myocarditis from the vaccine would absolutely have got it if the got Covid. Not only that, for every person who got myocarditis from the vaccine, there would be about 37 people who would have got it from Covid if there was no vaccine

The myocarditis did not come out of think air. It's a response to getting covid, whether through the vaccine or raw dogging it

(In 2021, I was more worried about mRNA vaccines as they were unproven at the time. I was wrong, and the old style of vaccines I can see is more dangerous. That does not mean that they were anywhere near as dangerous as getting Covid. And now those vaccines have been removed from the market as the were worse ONCE THE DATA CAME IN.)


Covid killed over 500k per year before the vaccines. The flu kills about 70k

Covid killed about 2k children per year before their vaccines. The flu kills about 200 a year. WITH the vaccine, Covid is kiling tens of kids per year

You're risk assessments/ cost benefit analyses are wrong because you are using wrong data.

Stop killing kids just because you are scared of masks.
There is nothing saying those that got myocarditis from the vaccine would have gotten it from covid. You're literally just making up science at this point. So did all the women that got blood clots from the J&J vaccine would have gotten worse blood clots from covid? This makes no sense. There's several studies showing the myocarditis risk is greater for those in these subgroups from the vaccine than covid itself.

Where is the data that covid killed 2K children per year? This doesn't exist.
 

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Again, you're mixing numbers. 1,000 per million is the total population stat, not the stat for that group.
This is not "mixing numbers"; it is directly relevant to the question you asked, and I'm not making any comparisons.

The entire population includes vaccine recipients. It includes covid sufferers. So those groups would be expected to experience a baseline incidence of myocarditis anyway. The 'baseline' is 1k or so per mill; the 'excess' is a handful. My point being that if you see a cluster of 14 or so across the entire military population, its very possible it could just be within the expected baseline, when we're talking such minuscule numbers.

Who hasn't gotten covid at this point? It's well into the 90% range and surely upper 90s at this point. Using the entire population is very valid at this point. If you wanna take away like 5% that might not have actually gotten covid, then OK...
🤦‍♂️ someone who has had covid at some point in the past is not the same as an active covid case.
 
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someone who has had covid at some point in the past is not the same as an active covid case.
You're talking with armchair degree man. What else do you expected this point? No sane medical person would let him into the field. It wouldn't matter anyway, because he would have failed the moment he got there.
 

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This is not "mixing numbers"; it is directly relevant to the question you asked, and I'm not making any comparisons.

The entire population includes vaccine recipients. It includes covid sufferers. So those groups would be expected to experience a baseline incidence of myocarditis anyway. The 'baseline' is 1k or so per mill; the 'excess' is a handful. My point being that if you see a cluster of 14 or so across the entire military population, its very possible it could just be within the expected baseline, when we're talking such minuscule numbers.



🤦‍♂️ someone who has had covid at some point in the past is not the same as an active covid case.
You're giving the rate of myocarditis in the ENTIRE population (ages/sexes 0-100) and saying it's 1,000 per million. But that is not the rate of myocarditis for young men.

What does that matter? We're not talking about amount of people at any given time. Your number for rate of myocarditis from the vaccine is someone's chance to get it from the vaccine. You have to then compare that with someone's chance to get myocarditis from covid (it doesn't matter when they get covid or if it's an active case).
 

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You're giving the rate of myocarditis in the ENTIRE population (ages/sexes 0-100) and saying it's 1,000 per million. But that is not the rate of myocarditis for young men.

What does that matter? We're not talking about amount of people at any given time. Your number for rate of myocarditis from the vaccine is someone's chance to get it from the vaccine. You have to then compare that with someone's chance to get myocarditis from covid (it doesn't matter when they get covid or if it's an active case).
Spoken like a true distracting information grifter pawn of the grifters. They ain't paying though for being a distraction. Be proud of being the pawn you chose to be.
 

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You're talking with armchair degree man. What else do you expected this point? No sane medical person would let him into the field. It wouldn't matter anyway, because he would have failed the moment he got there.
Silvanus doesn't understand how to do math. I guess armchair degree men are making policy for like every country then. Every country once the myocarditis link was established stopped recommending vaccines/boosters for this subgroup of people. I'm not the one that "discovered" this or said to do this, top doctors from every country all agreed to do this.
 

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I, Phonexixmgs, don't understand shit and pretend to do so with my fake ass degree I made out of dollar store crayons and markers.
You should really work on that and actually apply yourself. Though punks like you never do. You rather smell your own farts. Sucks to be you.
 

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hell of a cameo in this
John Oliver discusses the massive problems caused by gang databases, how people wind up on them, and why nobody looks good in lime green. You might think you’re pulling it off but trust us, you’re not.

And what is it that put America in the forefront of the nuclear nations? And what is it that will make it possible to spend twenty billion dollars of your money to put some clown on the moon? Well, it was good old American know how, that's what, as provided by good old Americans like Dr. Wernher von Braun!

Gather 'round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun,
A man whose allegiance
Is ruled by expedience.
Call him a Nazi, he won't even frown,
"Ha, Nazi, Schmazi, " says Wernher von Braun.

Don't say that he's hypocritical,
Say rather that he's apolitical.
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department, " says Wernher von Braun.

Some have harsh words for this man of renown,
But some think our attitude
Should be one of gratitude,
Like the widows and cripples in old London town,
Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun.

You too may be a big hero,
Once you've learned to count backwards to zero.
"In German oder English I know how to count down,
Und I'm learning Chinese!" says Wernher von Braun.
 
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I was trying to speak in Phoenixish

He clearly thinks that remedies that go against data are way safer than the vaccine.
Phoenix is his own worst enemy. He's a terrible combination of obstinate, too proud to admit fault, and too proud and incompetent to understand the limitations in his knowledge and understanding.

But he's also a victim. He has a conspiracy theorist-leaning mindset, and there's a whole, massive industry out there all geared to digging their hooks into the minds of such people for profit or fame: YouTube orTikTok views, Substack subscriptions, ad revenues and sales of nutrients or horse dewormer. I suspect even Phoenix has come to realise some of them are cranks, quacks or loonies, and he's managed to move on even if he can't quite admit he was wrong either. But for others - as is the case for the vaccine / myocarditis nonsense - he's still firmly in the cult.
 

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he's also a victim
I wouldn't go that far. A 'victim'? Yes, but he ain't an innocent victim. He's just another patsy and pawn that can be easily replaced like all the others. The only difference is that he's not getting paid for it, which makes them and others like him even more pathetic, as far as I'm concerned. The majority of them never want to listen or act as if they're ahead of the curve of everybody else. So they get no sympathy from me.
 

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Calling it a "women's safety app" is a pretty big exaggeration. It's essentially an app version of the Are We dating The Same Guy Facebook groups. It's a gossip mill using "safety" as a shield.

It was created specifically so they could better verify user identities and make it harder to leak contents. You know, because they keep getting caught doing things that would be considered cyberbullying or similar. So it's kinda ironic to see it hacked like that.
 
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You should really work on that and actually apply yourself. Though punks like you never do. You rather smell your own farts. Sucks to be you.
 

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Phoenix is his own worst enemy. He's a terrible combination of obstinate, too proud to admit fault, and too proud and incompetent to understand the limitations in his knowledge and understanding.

But he's also a victim. He has a conspiracy theorist-leaning mindset, and there's a whole, massive industry out there all geared to digging their hooks into the minds of such people for profit or fame: YouTube orTikTok views, Substack subscriptions, ad revenues and sales of nutrients or horse dewormer. I suspect even Phoenix has come to realise some of them are cranks, quacks or loonies, and he's managed to move on even if he can't quite admit he was wrong either. But for others - as is the case for the vaccine / myocarditis nonsense - he's still firmly in the cult.
You couldn't even admit to yourself that masking outside is stupidity...