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Agema

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You couldn't even admit to yourself that masking outside is stupidity...
Let me summarise our argument here for everyone's edification, in analogy form just to ram the point home.

Phoenixmgs: Wearing safety harnesses is stupid. According to this dodgy statistical argument, no-one dies by falling.
Agema: Wearing safety harnesses might be a reasonable precaution for people who are doing things at a height like mountaineering, working on telegraph poles, etc.
Phoenixmgs: NO, WEARING SAFETY HARNESSES IS STUPID, SCIENCE PROVES IT.
Agema: I don't think you quite get the point here
Phoenixmgs: YOU CAN'T EVEN ADMIT WEARING SAFETY HARNESSES IS STUPID.
Agema sighs and presses ignore button.
 
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Agema sighs and presses ignore button.
Congratulations that is the best thing you can do, and ignore an ignorant jerk like him. They'll never learn until they lose everything. And even then, not really for most people like him.
 
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You're giving the rate of myocarditis in the ENTIRE population (ages/sexes 0-100) and saying it's 1,000 per million. But that is not the rate of myocarditis for young men.
Myocarditis is more common from the onset of puberty until the early thirties, and more common in men than women. Meaning young men are likely to be higher on that baseline.

What does that matter? We're not talking about amount of people at any given time. Your number for rate of myocarditis from the vaccine is someone's chance to get it from the vaccine. You have to then compare that with someone's chance to get myocarditis from covid (it doesn't matter when they get covid or if it's an active case).
Yes, I'm aware of what we're trying to compare.

You were attempting to calculate the rate of hospitalisations from covid within this age group. To do this, you relied entirely on two stats that were unrelated to covid. It should be self-evident why this is inadequate.

All of this is largely irrelevant, though. Because whether we use my numbers or yours, the result is still that the risk of heart problems from covid (incl. for young men) is higher than the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine.
 

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jepstein was sooo last year I know, but sometimes history is important even if everyone in his little black book is already bored of the subject
Hi. Donald Trump sure is acting weird about his old friend Jeffrey Epstein, isn't he? Why would he be acting this way? Let's look into that.

Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:29 - The Facts About Jeffrey Epstein
11:20 - The “Complicated” Relationship Between Trump and Epstein
18:20 - Donald Trump Is The Guiltiest Man Who Has Ever Lived
31:45 - BREAKING: Trump is in the Epstein Files!
39:10 - The MAGA Revolt
49:30 - America Loves Conspiracy Theories
1:00:40 - Why Are MAGA So Gullible?

steve bannon filmed hours and hours of practice deposition with Jepstein, which he still has somewhere assumedly - seems like something worth asking the guy about
In a taped deposition, Epstein refused to answer questions about Trump

This week we are joined by Dr.  Olivier Jutel, a lecturer in the Department of Media, Film & Communication at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand. His scholarly focus is in communication studies and media theory, particularly around populism, digital media, political economy, and critical theory.

Travis and Julian chat with Olivier about his iconoclastic take on the paradigms that have dominated U.S. technology and communications policy since 2016.

Olivier argues that fear of foreign influence has been leveraged by a coalition of Silicon Valley firms, national‑security agencies and allied think‑tanks to deflect structural reform of platforms. Drawing on Cold‑War communication theory, this coalition frames all online conflict as “information warfare,” treating citizens as passive targets for behavioral manipulation while ignoring deeper political‑economic drivers of democratic decay. Jutel retraces the military origins of mass‑communication research, critiques Shoshana Zuboff’s “surveillance capitalism” thesis, and dissects the role of high‑profile disinfo professionals whose methods, he contends, don’t question the core assumptions of tech industry platforms and national‑security priorities.

Olivier concludes that while this disinformation framework is past its heyday, its war‑like view of social life persists, empowering actors such as Palantir while sidelining antitrust and public‑interest remedies. The solution? A shift toward true democratic governance of digital infrastructure.

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Can't do politics, too busy with the cybertruck of restaurants venture. MACO.

Works on several levels, because in Dominican Spanish 'maco' apparently means 'someone who does a shoddy job and leaves others to clean up the mess'.

Loving the strong loser energy here. No doubt it will avail Harris well.

SC should really get to answering the question whether some states' rights trump other states' rights.

Would you like to know more?
 
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Agema

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But that would've only gotten him some of their money. Obviously God wanted him to have all of their money.
I'm almost impressed at how many religious sect leaders and pastors fleece their congregations, or run off with their money. One of my colleagues goes to an evangelical church, and a few years ago their pastor fled with all the church's funds - which of course was an impressive amount, because these churches so aggressively tap their congregation for money.
 
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One of my colleagues goes to an evangelical church, and a few years ago their pastor fled with all the church's funds - which of course was an impressive amount, because these churches so aggressively tap their congregation for money.
How did your colleague feel after they went through that?
 

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The things I think are worth pointing out about the "unedited raw" footage that I think he glossed over in a way that suggests limited understanding of what people are seeing. Here's one of the WIRED articles on it, chosen specifically because it shows the metadata from the file for anyone curious: https://www.wired.com/story/metadat...rey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

  1. The video changes aspect ratio in a way that makes little sense for an "unedited" video coming from a single camera.
  2. The file was created by "Adobe Adobe Media Encoder 2024.0 (Windows)", which basically means some edition of Adobe Premiere on Windows.
  3. The file was saved at least 4 times in the process of being made, the last save was done at 2025:05:23 20:16:48-04:00, or 8:16PM GMT-4 on 5/23/2025.
  4. The file was stitched together from two source files named "2025-05-22 16-35-21.mp4" and "2025-05-22 21-12-48.mp4".
  5. Those file names are...interesting. On most modern camera systems, footage requested would by default be named with a timestamp for when the footage begins. I can't guarantee that they don't have a weird camera system that timestamps footage with when export was requested for some reason, but coming from most camera systems this would be two segments of footage starting from 5-22-2025 4:35PM and 5-22-2025 9:12PM according to local time on the DVR/NVR (or camera in a system without a DVR/NVR, but I can't imagine a prison doing that) when the footage was recorded. Which is...not right?
  6. The local temporary project file for the Adobe Premier project working on the footage was "C:\Users\MJCOLE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\mcc_4.prproj" which reinforces it being done with Premiere (that's what a prproj file is) by a user whose username begins with MJCOLE and is more than 8 characters in total.
 

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SC should really get to answering the question whether some states' rights trump other states' rights.
If it weren't the current SCOTUS, I'd assume they'd tell Texas to pound sand. They were in New York and the conduct crossed state lines so New York and federal laws should be what's relevant, not Texas law. But we live in the current year with the current SCOTUS, so I expect an extremely narrow ruling that states that in the case of abortion laws only any incident crossing state lines applies the laws of whichever state would be most restrictive.

At the same time, California somehow manages to apply it's laws regarding recording phone calls to people in other states if any party to the call is in California while in any other case the law where the recording party is would be what's relevant.
 
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I'm almost impressed at how many religious sect leaders and pastors fleece their congregations, or run off with their money. One of my colleagues goes to an evangelical church, and a few years ago their pastor fled with all the church's funds - which of course was an impressive amount, because these churches so aggressively tap their congregation for money.
It makes me think of one time where I was invited to attend a church and, despite my better judgment because I have the willpower of about a wet paper towel when I have to turn down someone to their face (something these types take advantage of), did so.

That first meeting, the leader of the ceremony (wasn't really a pastor, too young for that) flat-out quoted Bible verses to say that if the congregate felt comfortable with the amount of money they had left after donating to the church, they hadn't donated enough, and that a real Christian would willingly make themselves uncomfortable with how much they donated, suffering some sort of hardship to prove their Christianity.

Needless to say, I wasn't convinced.
 
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The things I think are worth pointing out about the "unedited raw" footage that I think he glossed over in a way that suggests limited understanding of what people are seeing. Here's one of the WIRED articles on it, chosen specifically because it shows the metadata from the file for anyone curious:
I think there's often an assumption that work would be done entirely to ideals: by a totally standard professional in a totally standard procedure with the right equipment in good circumstances to a good standard.

Except that in practice, people get poor instructions, don't consider every possible end use, etc. Stuff often goes through the hands of people who might be less than fully expert and do things wrong, or have idiosyncratic procedures, or took short-cuts for efficiency, or were just a bit careless, or don't fully understand things, etc. As a result, when subjected to the highest levels of scrutinty, things can look very disappointing.
 

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It makes me think of one time where I was invited to attend a church and, despite my better judgment because I have the willpower of about a wet paper towel when I have to turn down someone to their face (something these types take advantage of), did so.
I remember once as an undergraduate student I got stopped in the street by a Seventh Day Adventist, who tried to get me to come to his church. I said no thanks, I'd done the whole churchgoing thing already and decided that I didn't believe in God. Cue theological debate. It was polite until I accidentally compared Jesus to Hitler. By which I mean we got round to me saying the gospels were full of untrue magic stories as Jesus was written about years after he was alive, and he countered that early Christians were persecuted and why would they die for a lie, and I responded that lots of people died for the Third Reich but no-one thinks Hitler was a good role model.

I honestly didn't really intend to equate Jesus with Hitler, but I saw the skin tighten around his eyes, and it was all a bit tense after that. So I hurriedly said I had to get home and left.

That first meeting, the leader of the ceremony (wasn't really a pastor, too young for that) flat-out quoted Bible verses to say that if the congregate felt comfortable with the amount of money they had left after donating to the church, they hadn't donated enough, and that a real Christian would willingly make themselves uncomfortable with how much they donated, suffering some sort of hardship to prove their Christianity.
Oh, it's so disgusting.

I think the worst thing is that when these funds aren't being siphoned off into the pockets of the church elders, they're usually being taken to fund massive and expensive places of worship. I cannot help but feel that massive and expensive places of worship, whilst impressive, are a great deal more about the pride of men than the glory of God. The Jesus I recall from Bible readings had a lot more to say about modesty and humility.

The fact that they are all too often squeezing people on low incomes with little to give is worse. Then, even worse, they want to call their self-enrichment and gaudy prayer-houses "charity". Again, I'm pretty sure if you were to ask Jesus whether it were better that poor families had bread or a temple had a gold crucifix, Jesus would go with the bread. I mean, Jesus would take people being fed over the temple getting basic roof repairs: after all, you can pray in the open air if you need to.
 
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That first meeting, the leader of the ceremony (wasn't really a pastor, too young for that) flat-out quoted Bible verses to say that if the congregate felt comfortable with the amount of money they had left after donating to the church, they hadn't donated enough, and that a real Christian would willingly make themselves uncomfortable with how much they donated, suffering some sort of hardship to prove their Christianity.
Well like him, or those that follow him willingly like that, can go straight to hell. I am Christian (Methodist Baptist) myself, but I would never do something like that, nor stand for it.

, it's so disgusting.

I think the worst thing is that when these funds aren't being siphoned off into the pockets of the church elders, they're usually being taken to fund massive and expensive places of worship. I cannot help but feel that massive and expensive places of worship, whilst impressive, are a great deal more about the pride of men than the glory of God. The Jesus I recall from Bible readings had a lot more to say about modesty and humility.
That's the problem. Punk bitches like that don't care about anyone that themselves or hide behind proses and scriptures they don't care for at all, and use to manipulate and hurt others.
 

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How did your colleague feel after they went through that?
I don't know. It was another colleague who knew about this and had told me, and I'm not really into digging into people's lives so didn't want to ask further.
 

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I think there's often an assumption that work would be done entirely to ideals: by a totally standard professional in a totally standard procedure with the right equipment in good circumstances to a good standard.

Except that in practice, people get poor instructions, don't consider every possible end use, etc. Stuff often goes through the hands of people who might be less than fully expert and do things wrong, or have idiosyncratic procedures, or took short-cuts for efficiency, or were just a bit careless, or don't fully understand things, etc. As a result, when subjected to the highest levels of scrutinty, things can look very disappointing.
The thing is, if I were being conspiratorial, it looks exactly like what the result would be were I lazy and/or not super tech savvy, but also had a need to be duplicitous. That's what's tripping me up, it looks like what you'd get if you took short-cuts for efficiency or were a bit careless, or don't fully understand things and were trying to throw together something...not entirely on the up and up.
 
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