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What the fuck is wrong with these people at Bragg and DLTF? The guys in a video, make a good point: what the fuck are they even accomplishing anymore?!

Are you in the podcast by any chance?
 
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I'm pretty sure there are criminal organisations and right-wing terrorist groups who send their tyros to the military for this very reason, so they can bring back that expertise to the operation. May as well have the government spend the money to train their grunts rather than do it themselves, and a delicious irony too.
Certain gangs are documented to do this, IIRC, the US military's decisions to enact bans on tattoos was the official response to try and stop this. There's also criminal gangs that are exclusive to current or former military.
 

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Texas Republicans are demanding that Democrats agree to an around-the-clock security detail to leave the legislative chamber. One decided she'll just stay there.


Because it's totally normal to treat opposing politicians like convicts, but to have a convict as President.
 

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Texas Republicans are demanding that Democrats agree to an around-the-clock security detail to leave the legislative chamber. One decided she'll just stay there.
The whole thing in Texas looks like some really fucking weird-ass shit.

I don't really understand the point of quorum if you legally coerce everyone to attend in order to make quorum. Just get rid of quorum!

Then if the minority refuse to vote, then you vote through whatever you fancy. It's the same end result as compelling them to attend to face being outvoted, and vastly less hassle. I also think there is something completely absurd about compelling representatives to vote in a system that doesn't compel the electorate to vote. Not voting has a point. Boycotting a vote is a statement. What is the point of marching people into a room and forcing them to vote? (When does it become the "security detail" making sure they make the authority-approved vote?)
 

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The whole thing in Texas looks like some really fucking weird-ass shit.

I don't really understand the point of quorum if you legally coerce everyone to attend in order to make quorum. Just get rid of quorum!

Then if the minority refuse to vote, then you vote through whatever you fancy. It's the same end result as compelling them to attend to face being outvoted, and vastly less hassle. I also think there is something completely absurd about compelling representatives to vote in a system that doesn't compel the electorate to vote. Not voting has a point. Boycotting a vote is a statement. What is the point of marching people into a room and forcing them to vote? (When does it become the "security detail" making sure they make the authority-approved vote?)
Ok, hear me out. If they make the minority attend, then the majority can rub its victory into the loser's faces personally.
 

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Youtube keeps recommending me vtubers reacting to ShoeonHead. This was a thing a couple of months ago (and then a couple of months before that) and I guess they're making another push again. Trying to launder right-wing grfiting through anime girls seems to be getting very popular these days, and you'd think some of these vtubers (who hopefully aren't bigoted pieces of shit) would maybe speak up about this and actively distance themselves from the nazis.
Or sometimes dudes posing as anime girls, but it's clear by their voice that they are men. I haven't seen any of these recommendations yet, but the vtubers i've seen so far what nothing to do with the far right. Two of the ones I know are bisexual women. They're not a fan of the far right bitches.
Yes, i haven't seen any such recoomendations either. And i like it that way, which is why i won't google ShoeonHead or what this is even about.
 
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The whole thing in Texas looks like some really fucking weird-ass shit.

I don't really understand the point of quorum if you legally coerce everyone to attend in order to make quorum. Just get rid of quorum!

Then if the minority refuse to vote, then you vote through whatever you fancy. It's the same end result as compelling them to attend to face being outvoted, and vastly less hassle. I also think there is something completely absurd about compelling representatives to vote in a system that doesn't compel the electorate to vote. Not voting has a point. Boycotting a vote is a statement. What is the point of marching people into a room and forcing them to vote? (When does it become the "security detail" making sure they make the authority-approved vote?)
You get to retain some really thin veneer of democracy this way? Not sure why, but that little bit of pretence seems to be important for some supporters.
 

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Yes, i haven't seen any such recoomendations either. And i like it that way, which is why i won't google ShoeonHead or what this is even about.
I would never Google shit like that either, but if I am ever really curious, I use incognito mode combined with ad blocker.
 

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I don't really understand the point of quorum if you legally coerce everyone to attend in order to make quorum. Just get rid of quorum!
It's so that you can't do the opposite, and deliberately hold a vote while a bunch of representatives are unable to attend. That sort of thing might be outdated in a world of fast, reliable transportation and instantaneous telecommunication, but I'm sure you can imagine sleazy politicians 200 years ago strategizing to keep their opponents out of the room so that they could pass something controversial.
 

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Yes, i haven't seen any such recoomendations either. And i like it that way, which is why i won't google ShoeonHead or what this is even about.
Her fame is from mocking feminists in videos with a high density of memes. That's about all the necessary context.
 

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The whole thing in Texas looks like some really fucking weird-ass shit.

I don't really understand the point of quorum if you legally coerce everyone to attend in order to make quorum. Just get rid of quorum!
The short answer is that the Texas constitution requires a quorum for the legislature to do business, and amending the state constitution is not something done easily or quickly (especially while the legislature is unable to conduct business). Texas courts have also agreed that the sergeant at arms for the legislature can take actions to prevent breaking quorum, and the 2025 rules for the legislature (that Nicole Collier actually voted for) specifically includes what they're doing to enforce quorum.
 
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Yes, incorrectly. There is no "may or may not". It's not an infection.



? Why would we want the chance of a random adolescent getting it? We're comparing the relative dangers of covid and the vaccine, not the danger of arrhythmia in the population at large.



And yet, even if we take your number, we still end up with a risk far, far, far, far lower than 0.0005%.



Yes, it does. This is not disputed.

But even if we're talking about mild infection... you know that myocarditis from the vaccine is also mild and self-limiting. So if you think we should ignore negative effects that are relatively mild, you're on shaky ground yourself.
That's not really the important thing and vaccines (depending on the type can be infections), it's the immune response...

That's the number you're using for myocarditis and then claiming arrhythmia from covid is a 40x higher chance/risk when that isn't true, you keep comparing apples to oranges.

No, no you don't.

Where is your source to back up this claim?
From Paul Offit:
The two doses appeared to be highly effective at preventing severe illness. And even in people over 65, even in people who had multiple co-morbidities. So I didn't see frankly the need for a third dose, much less the requirement for a third dose. So when President Biden, for example, stood up in front of the American public on August 18th of 2021 and said, as of the week of September 20th, we are going to offer a booster dose for everybody over 60. And I didn't agree with that because I didn't think the data supported that.
 

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That's not really the important thing and vaccines (depending on the type can be infections), it's the immune response...
Of course. But it's certainly worth clarifying. Anti-vaxxers often conflate vaccines with diseases, in order to argue that vaccines causing the same issues as diseases is to be expected. It's not and they don't.

That's the number you're using for myocarditis and then claiming arrhythmia from covid is a 40x higher chance/risk when that isn't true, you keep comparing apples to oranges.
No, I've never relied on the total population for any of these risk rates.

For the myocarditis risk from the vaccine, I'm using the numbers provided in your original link, which originate in the report in Nature. That's where we get the 5 excess events per million from, from which we get 0.0005%. It is specifically within the group who had that specific vaccine, not the entire population.

No, no you don't.
You quoted 0.3% as the proportion ending up with a hospitalisation from covid, no? And 2% of hospitalised patients had arrhythmia. Which brings us to 0.006%.

How exactly is 0.006 smaller than 0.0005%?

Where is your source to back up this claim?
From Paul Offit:
The two doses appeared to be highly effective at preventing severe illness. And even in people over 65, even in people who had multiple co-morbidities. So I didn't see frankly the need for a third dose, much less the requirement for a third dose. So when President Biden, for example, stood up in front of the American public on August 18th of 2021 and said, as of the week of September 20th, we are going to offer a booster dose for everybody over 60. And I didn't agree with that because I didn't think the data supported that.

What I find funny when you quote Paul Offit, is how out-of-step you are with what he says. He's not saying there that immunity doesn't wane, or that boosters do nothing; he's recommending against a policy mandate.

But what has he been clear on? He recommends vaccinating young kids; he recommends masking, and masked even after being vaccinated; he supported a mandate; he's clear that vaccine-related myocarditis is a much lower risk than the disease...

Paul Offit: The myocarditis associated with the viral infection or a myocarditis associated with this MIS-C, this post-infectious phenomenon, is more severe than is the myocarditis associated with a vaccine. So there are never risk free choices. There are just choices to take different risks. And I think here, clearly, the choice is to get a vaccine, which is the lesser risk.
 

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Yes, i haven't seen any such recoomendations either. And i like it that way, which is why i won't google ShoeonHead or what this is even about.
She was a racist, pick-me grifter at the height of the anti-SJW surge, who then tried to rebrand herself as no longer being alt-Right, but is now doing a vanille version of more or less the same thing. And a bunch of bottom tier vtubers are apparently doing reactions to new videos of her, that every few months get pushed onto my home page.
 

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She was a racist, pick-me grifter at the height of the anti-SJW surge, who then tried to rebrand herself as no longer being alt-Right, but is now doing a vanille version of more or less the same thing. And a bunch of bottom tier vtubers are apparently doing reactions to new videos of her, that every few months get pushed onto my home page.
So another lying biatch-in-a-box stand? Ok then.

As for your problem try to do as many don't recommend/not interested in content or channel(s) as possible. Or start watching anything that has nothing to do with that bullshit.
 
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but I'm sure you can imagine sleazy politicians 200 years ago strategizing to keep their opponents out of the room so that they could pass something controversial.
Certainly: the best ecumenical councils of the early church were arranged that way.

I'm less clear why Texas would have a problem with that, given the routinely shady shit it's conducted itself with.
 

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So another lying biatch-in-a-box stand? Ok then.

As for your problem try to do as many don't recommend/not interested in content or channel(s) as possible. Or start watching anything that has nothing to do with that bullshit.
I do. It's actually very easy to spot the nazi grifters through their thumbnails alone, and I immediately 'don't recommend' the shit out of whatever channel it's from. Youtube still likes to serve them up to me though every once in a while.
 
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I do. It's actually very easy to spot the nazi grifters through their thumbnails alone, and I immediately 'don't recommend' the shit out of whatever channel it's from. Youtube still likes to serve them up to me though every once in a while.
I get the same with HFY stories. I am pretty sure, i never watched/was interested in that genre but every couple of months i get endless AI generated HFY stories recommendated for weeks. It is quite annoying and i don't know what causes the algorithm to do that.
 
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“I make a mistake,” she said. “I’m so sorry. It’s a culture thing. I don’t know. I don’t understand. I’m so sorry. I feel so bad right now. I’m so sorry, honey.”

She then called THE CITY back, advising that we call her attorney, Steven Brill, and adding, “Can we forget about this? I try to be a good person. Please. Please. Please don’t do in the news nothing about me.”

“I just wanted to be her friend,” Greco added. “I just wanted to have one good friend. It’s nothing.”
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I do. It's actually very easy to spot the nazi grifters through their thumbnails alone, and I immediately 'don't recommend' the shit out of whatever channel it's from. Youtube still likes to serve them up to me though every once in a while.
I think one of the most empowering things humans can do is to never watch online videos.

However, I do find it quite relaxing looking at those ones where people mix different paint colours.