Charlie Kirk Assassinated

[tippy2k2]

This "HE WAS KILLED FOR A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION!!!!" shit is so fucking tiresome

Liking chocolate ice cream while my friend not liking chocolate ice cream is a difference of opinion. Thinking cats are way better than dogs (while correct) is a difference of opinions. Thinking Tariffs on everything is a horrible idea while someone else thinks Tariffs are a great idea is a difference of opinion (even if it's a stupid opinion).

Telling an audience of millions that LGBT people (specifically the T part) shouldn't exist isn't a difference of opinion. Telling an audience of millions that the black man in the pilots seat is probably not qualified to do the job and that he was better off as a slave than he is now isn't a difference of opinion. Telling an audience of millions that a woman shouldn't have say over her own body and that they were better off barefoot and pregnant with no say in their life isn't a difference of opinion.

People love to say "The Pen is Mightier than The Sword" but people saying Kirk "Just had a difference of opinion" evidently do not believe that. Fuckers like him, Sharpino, LibsofTikTok, etc are all nothing but hate peddlers doing everything they can do to fan the flames and let gullible dipshits do the dirty work while they glibly smirk that "They're just asking questions!!!!!" isn't a FUCKING OPINION. Their words have real life consequences and them no longer being spouted off makes the world a better place.

 

[Agema]

I'm no historian, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adolf Hitler killed 6 million Jews with his own two hands, but he certainly SAID enough that 6 million Jews died. For all we know, the gunman who killed Kirk is that time traveler we've collectively posited were time travel a possibility who came back to 2025 to effectively "kill Hitler."

To be fair, I don't think Charlie Kirk is anywhere close to the same league as Hitler.

Which I also say on the basis Charlie Kirk doesn't deserve the compliment of being considered so accomplished and important that he would have an impact on the world anywhere near as large as Hitler's.

 

[tstorm823]

It wasn't a "bad take", it was a deliberate lie to encourage voters to believe all political violence comes from the political left, as part of a deliberate and ongoing campaign to demonise the political left whilst the right ramps up their own violent rhetoric and political violence.

It maintains that violence is bad though.

 

[tstorm823]

Telling an audience of millions that LGBT people (specifically the T part) shouldn't exist isn't a difference of opinion.

Nobody says this. The people exist, they should exist, they should be cared for. Constructing rpg style imaginary identities for each other is what we would be better off without

 

[tippy2k2]

Nobody says this. The people exist, they should exist, they should be cared for. Constructing rpg style imaginary identities for each other is what we would be better off without

"We don't hate Transgender people and think they shouldn't exist. We just think that people who are transgender are mentally ill and shouldn't be given any tools or resources to transition to their identified gender because they're just crazy and are not actually the opposite gender!"

Yeah, you clowns DO think Transgender people shouldn't exist, you just use pretty words to pretend like you're trying to help them rather than actually support them. Fuck off with your flowery wordy bullshit.

 

[Xprimentyl]

To be fair, I don't think Charlie Kirk is anywhere close to the same league as Hitler.

Which I also say on the basis Charlie Kirk doesn't deserve the compliment of being considered so accomplished and important that he would have an impact on the world anywhere near as large as Hitler's.

Oh, I completely agree... in 2025. I'm sure Hitler in 1900 wasn't nearly as villainous as the Hitler from the 1930s. Who's to say what happens tomorrow, or 2028 and beyond? Hence my position stands that a time traveler from a near future would know how bad it gets as to use a trip to the past to change our future.

Point beyond literals being January 6th, 2021 showed us a discontent people (discontent founded on misleading, distorted rhetoric and hyperbole) can be called to extreme action, and the voice holding he bullhorn can claim deniability while virtue signalers lament "it's just words and/or opinions." The comparison of Kirk to Hitler was simply to say that a few words from one can have far-reaching consequences for millions, not to equate the two. Kirk was the voice entitlement, sexism, misogyny, bigotry, and a lot of people tuned in/showed up to hear him out, enthusiastic emphasis on the past tense; it's just too satisfying not to appreciate the death by gun of THE person who advocated gun deaths as an inexorable consequence of the "necessary" 2nd amendment. This dude literally died on that hill; slow clap for standing by your word. It was he only thing he was ever right about.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

It maintains that violence is bad though.

Unless it's a boat full of Venezuelans being blown up. Then it's good!

 

[thebobmaster]

Kirk was not just a random talking head. Plenty of Americans are suffering under a government that abuses its powers and tramples all over their rights. Kirk appeared publicly as a spokesman of and advisor to that government. The peoples frustration over how they're being treated wasn't gonna stay bottled up forever.

Things like these will keep happening until the American leadership will respect the rights of its people. Not making any assumptions about the assassin's personal motives, of course, but if it was done out of protest, he has excercised his right to bear arms exactly as the American constitution intended: In defense against a government that infringes upon the rights of its citizens.

Unfortunately, as Trump and co have already demonstrated, that's not what's happening. What's happening is that Kirk is being treated as a casualty in a war against the left, a martyr for their cause to be venerated. I'm not going to mourn Kirk, although I will feel sympathy towards his family losing their loved one in this way. However, feeling like this will do anything but bolster the cause and efforts of Trumpites to go after those who are "different" is...well, to quote a certain team on The Amazing Race last season, "Our spirits were high, but delusional."

Hell, they're already laying the groundwork, look at that story about supposed trans-supporting messages on the ammo reported by the Wall Street Journal.

 

[Chimpzy]

Shooter apparently apprehended

Exclusive | Tyler Robinson, 22-year-old from Utah, ID’d as Charlie Kirk shooting suspect after father ‘turned him in’ — Trump: ‘We have him’

President Trump announced early Friday that a suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination was turned in by his father — with law enforcement sources telling The Post it is a 22-year-old Utah local.…

nypost.com

Turned in by own father. That's rough.

According to press conference, there were indeed messages engraved on the bullets

Fired bullet:
"Notices bulges owo whats this?"

Other unfired cases:
"Hey fascist! Catch! ↑ → ↓↓↓"
"O bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao"
"If you read this you are gay lmao"

Huh, so Kirk died to a bullet saying ' Notices bulge owo' fired by a 4chan shitposter who dressed up as memes for Halloween. What a twist.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Yeah, that's a very lovely sentiment, but if you look around you I'm sure you'll notice we are not on an even playing field. Charlie Kirk's was not simply a voice I didn't wish to hear, his was a voice that was inescapable, elevated by an algorithm in the hands of fascist tech giants. A voice that spoke constantly about how black, and queer people deserve scorn and worse, how women have no bodily autonomy, including his own daughter. A voice who said an amazing patriot should bail out the Pelosi attacker. All with a smile while he was racking in millions of dollars, spreading hatred and violence. And now, that what all the thousands of people he's made to feel unsafe for years have experienced, he got a lethal dose of.

He was a fascist propagandist. Fuck. Him. He got what he deserved.

Stop believing the propaganda in your echo chamber.

What about a world where people wield their voices like weapons? Inspiring and encouraging hate and calling to action those weak-willed yet able enough to affect dissent and damaging change? What about a world where those in power give such voices a platform, legitimacy, and endorsement? I'm no historian, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adolf Hitler killed 6 million Jews with his own two hands, but he certainly SAID enough that 6 million Jews died. For all we know, the gunman who killed Kirk is that time traveler we've collectively posited were time travel a possibility who came back to 2025 to effectively "kill Hitler."

So yeah, let's not virtue signal that Kirk's "unfortunate passing" is a failure of humanity or a loss to anyone but hate mongers who are chomping at he bit for violence on such a grander scale as to make the one shot that killed Kirk (kudos on the marksmanship) sound like merely the first kernel of popcorn that pops when you microwave a bag of hundreds of them.

"We don't hate Transgender people and think they shouldn't exist. We just think that people who are transgender are mentally ill and shouldn't be given any tools or resources to transition to their identified gender because they're just crazy and are not actually the opposite gender!"

Yeah, you clowns DO think Transgender people shouldn't exist, you just use pretty words to pretend like you're trying to help them rather than actually support them. Fuck off with your flowery wordy bullshit.

Funny when I google that in quotes, it returns nothing involving Charlie Kirk at all, so I'm pretty sure he didn't say that.

 

[Agema]

It maintains that violence is bad though.

<sigh>

It fosters a view of right-wingers not as people who also commit political violence, but as decent people besieged by the immoral, who need to rise up, defend themselves, enact vengeance.

Take a look out there, that's a message pumped out from a lot of big hitters. Trump says the radical left is directly responsible for terrorism. Steve Bannon says you are war. Elon Musk is asking what you are going to do to defend yourselves. Fox News contributors say this must stop and everyone should be held accountable - politicians, media, etc. in what conservative activists call a "crackdown" on the left.

This isn't saying violence is bad. It's laying down justification for violence, and why the omission of left-wing victims of violence is so terribly deliberate.

 

[bluegate]

Shooter apparently apprehended

Exclusive | Tyler Robinson, 22-year-old from Utah, ID’d as Charlie Kirk shooting suspect after father ‘turned him in’ — Trump: ‘We have him’

President Trump announced early Friday that a suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination was turned in by his father — with law enforcement sources telling The Post it is a 22-year-old Utah local.…

nypost.com

Turned in by own father. That's rough.

According to press conference, there were indeed messages engraved on the bullets

Fired bullet:
"Notices bulges owo whats this?"

Other unfired cases:
"Hey fascist! Catch! ↑ → ↓↓↓"
"O bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao"
"If you read this you are gay lmao"

Huh, so Kirk died to a bullet saying ' Notices bulge owo' fired by a 4chan shitposter who dressed up as memes for Halloween. What a twist.

Let's see... What would be the proper response here.... *Flips through box of cards*

Got it!

Why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in [ applicable ] Area wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out… Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I've noticed that a lot of people are being fired from their jobs for making comments on Kirk's death. Isn't this cancel culture? Where's the free-speech absolutists?

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

The shooter sounds like a rather... whimsical fellow.

 

[Chimpzy]

Trump Says He’s Holding Up ‘Very Good’ After Charlie Kirk Killing: ‘Just Started Construction of the New Ballroom’

President Donald Trump offered a bizarre, if not tone deaf response when asked about the killing of Charlie Kirk.

www.mediaite.com

Classic Trump. Never pass up an opportunity to make something about itself.

 

[Agema]

Trump Says He’s Holding Up ‘Very Good’ After Charlie Kirk Killing: ‘Just Started Construction of the New Ballroom’

President Donald Trump offered a bizarre, if not tone deaf response when asked about the killing of Charlie Kirk.

www.mediaite.com

Classic Trump. Never pass up an opportunity to make something about itself.

lol - his "friend" Charlie Kirk?

Trump doesn't have any friends. He has people who are useful to him or not, he doesn't actually care about them.

 

[bluegate]

Trump Says He’s Holding Up ‘Very Good’ After Charlie Kirk Killing: ‘Just Started Construction of the New Ballroom’

President Donald Trump offered a bizarre, if not tone deaf response when asked about the killing of Charlie Kirk.

www.mediaite.com

Classic Trump. Never pass up an opportunity to make something about itself.

Classic!

Not even two days later and the big orange in chief can't even be bothered to talk about him anymore when asked directly.

 

[Chimpzy]

 

[Xprimentyl]

Unfortunately for you, Mr. Kirk, not nearly enough bullets dodged this past week...

 

[dreng3]

It seems to me that a lot of the cheer around the death of Kirk stems from the fact that there never seem to be any real consequence for the right, be it politicians, grifters, or others.

Is a man taking a bullet to the throat and dying a reasonable consequence for being a bastard with shit views and a desire to see others harmed? Probably not, a slap in the face or a solid deplatforming would probably do it for me, but is is A consequence, something we haven't seen the right suffer in years and years.


Trump lies without shame or consequence, his spokesperson goes on stage and lies to reporters with no consequences, Mike Johnson makes up stuff to protect a suspected pedophile is caught in the lie and faces no consequences, DoD blows up a group of foreign nationals in international waters, something completely unheard of, and there are no consequences.

Can it really be any surprise that when someone catches a proverbial stray, and a literal killshot, that people feel somewhat vindicated? I don't think so.