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Event Horizon (1997)

Or, the movie even people who don't like Paul W.S. Anderson concede is actually pretty decent.

Event Horizon is a Science-Fiction Horror movie following the crew of captain Miller (Laurence Fishburne) trying to salvage the titular deserted space ship that suddenly disappeared and reappeared sans crew after trying out an experimental hyperspace engine invented by scientist Weir, played by Sam Neil, who's along with them.

In essence, it is very much an Alien inspired horror movie on a space ship, what makes it unique, though, is that there's no clearly defined monster that's picking off the crew, rather, the ship is haunted by something less clearly defined that gets into the heads of the people on it, something not corporeal that drives them to do horrible things to themselves and each other. What that adds up to, is a movie with a rather ambitious, psychological premise, directed in a very mid budget action blockbuster fashion.

While it's interesting to theorize what a version of Even Horizon directed by a more arthouse director would look like, Anderson does his characteristic blend of fast paced, mildly sleazy and surprisingly ambitious. So what comes out of it is this movie that's too juvenile to be prestige horror and too ambitious to be an exploitation flick, occupying an awkward but overall appealing middle ground of elevated exploitation fare that critics at the time didn't really fuck with but I honestly kinda do. What makes Event Horizon more than the sum of its parts are for one, Fishburne and Neil's extremely committed portrayals of their characters, pulp science-fiction archetypes they may be, the slightly ridiculous but also surprisingly effective futurist gothic set design and, perhaps to some extent, a sense of restraint that might not have been entirely intended.

There's a sorta well known anecdote, that about 20 minutes of footage was deemed to be too violent and too gruesome to make it into the theatrical cut, footage that has since been lost and degraded in storage. And while I'm certainly curious what that may have been, I'd argue that having to pull its punches when it comes to gore might have worked out in Event Horizon's favour. The fact that its scenes of Hellraiser-esque torture are only alluded to and shown in short spurts, but never dwelled on, might just be the thin line seperating it from actually turning into the exploitation movie it narrowly avoids being. The way it is now, it still maintains a certain sense of class, or as much class as something that ends on a sing by the Prodigy will ever have.

That said, I did like Event Horizon. It's fluctuating between the much smarter and the much dumber versions of itself that it could have been but it averages out at something that honestly stands as one of the better space horror movies by far. It's the sort of thing that takes a rather out there premise and spins it into something genuinely appealing. I'm not sure how the much the fabled uncut version (or, to get into that can of worms, the officially licensed Warhammer 40K version it was originally supposed to be) would have turned out but I feel what we got is as good as it could have ever been. Like all of Anderson's best movies, I think that thin veneer of shlock covers something quite compelling and quite ambitious.
 

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The Mummy (2017)

Tom Cruise signs off at the end of by asking "Where's your sense of adventure?" and I have to assume most reviewers worth their salary figures in 2017 quoted him when going over Alex Kurtzman's The Mummy, the cinematic equivalent of hotdog water.

Evidently the filmmakers were antsy about ruffling any feathers by falling into the trappings of appropriating historical and/or religious imagery to power their monster movie schtick, so as a compromise they buried the evil Egyptian mummy in wartorn Irak, because who gives a shit when you're already carpet bombing them anyway, then moved the bulk of the action over to England, where surely no one will have the temerity to complain about cultural pilfering.

As a result the movie doesn't have much of an identity: there's nothing memorable about its locations or set-pieces and can never afford to be too specific about anything despite the copious amounts of infodump. I also think Cruise as a rogue doesn't work, has zero chemistry with the leading lady, and in a monster movie it's generally not a good idea to have the monster captured halfway through.
 
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Event Horizon (1997)

Or, the movie even people who don't like Paul W.S. Anderson concede is actually pretty decent.

Event Horizon is a Science-Fiction Horror movie following the crew of captain Miller (Laurence Fishburne) trying to salvage the titular deserted space ship that suddenly disappeared and reappeared sans crew after trying out an experimental hyperspace engine invented by scientist Weir, played by Sam Neil, who's along with them.

In essence, it is very much an Alien inspired horror movie on a space ship, what makes it unique, though, is that there's no clearly defined monster that's picking off the crew, rather, the ship is haunted by something less clearly defined that gets into the heads of the people on it, something not corporeal that drives them to do horrible things to themselves and each other. What that adds up to, is a movie with a rather ambitious, psychological premise, directed in a very mid budget action blockbuster fashion.

While it's interesting to theorize what a version of Even Horizon directed by a more arthouse director would look like, Anderson does his characteristic blend of fast paced, mildly sleazy and surprisingly ambitious. So what comes out of it is this movie that's too juvenile to be prestige horror and too ambitious to be an exploitation flick, occupying an awkward but overall appealing middle ground of elevated exploitation fare that critics at the time didn't really fuck with but I honestly kinda do. What makes Event Horizon more than the sum of its parts are for one, Fishburne and Neil's extremely committed portrayals of their characters, pulp science-fiction archetypes they may be, the slightly ridiculous but also surprisingly effective futurist gothic set design and, perhaps to some extent, a sense of restraint that might not have been entirely intended.

There's a sorta well known anecdote, that about 20 minutes of footage was deemed to be too violent and too gruesome to make it into the theatrical cut, footage that has since been lost and degraded in storage. And while I'm certainly curious what that may have been, I'd argue that having to pull its punches when it comes to gore might have worked out in Event Horizon's favour. The fact that its scenes of Hellraiser-esque torture are only alluded to and shown in short spurts, but never dwelled on, might just be the thin line seperating it from actually turning into the exploitation movie it narrowly avoids being. The way it is now, it still maintains a certain sense of class, or as much class as something that ends on a sing by the Prodigy will ever have.

That said, I did like Event Horizon. It's fluctuating between the much smarter and the much dumber versions of itself that it could have been but it averages out at something that honestly stands as one of the better space horror movies by far. It's the sort of thing that takes a rather out there premise and spins it into something genuinely appealing. I'm not sure how the much the fabled uncut version (or, to get into that can of worms, the officially licensed Warhammer 40K version it was originally supposed to be) would have turned out but I feel what we got is as good as it could have ever been. Like all of Anderson's best movies, I think that thin veneer of shlock covers something quite compelling and quite ambitious.
Fun fact: the only reason I was ever interested in this film was because I learned that my [then] favorite musical duo Orbital was heavily involved with the soundtrack; I think I bought the soundtrack before I saw the movie. Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised to find it be a decent film. Like you said, it was different to have a thriller that didn't have a singular, either in a monster or collective entity, to point at and run from. The film opens the same way it ends, and never really tips its hand as to the "who, what, when, why, and how," and you're left to merely blame the ambition of mankind overstepping to disastrous results. It's been a while; might have to watch it again.
 

Gordon_4

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Event Horizon (1997)

Or, the movie even people who don't like Paul W.S. Anderson concede is actually pretty decent.

Event Horizon is a Science-Fiction Horror movie following the crew of captain Miller (Laurence Fishburne) trying to salvage the titular deserted space ship that suddenly disappeared and reappeared sans crew after trying out an experimental hyperspace engine invented by scientist Weir, played by Sam Neil, who's along with them.

In essence, it is very much an Alien inspired horror movie on a space ship, what makes it unique, though, is that there's no clearly defined monster that's picking off the crew, rather, the ship is haunted by something less clearly defined that gets into the heads of the people on it, something not corporeal that drives them to do horrible things to themselves and each other. What that adds up to, is a movie with a rather ambitious, psychological premise, directed in a very mid budget action blockbuster fashion.

While it's interesting to theorize what a version of Even Horizon directed by a more arthouse director would look like, Anderson does his characteristic blend of fast paced, mildly sleazy and surprisingly ambitious. So what comes out of it is this movie that's too juvenile to be prestige horror and too ambitious to be an exploitation flick, occupying an awkward but overall appealing middle ground of elevated exploitation fare that critics at the time didn't really fuck with but I honestly kinda do. What makes Event Horizon more than the sum of its parts are for one, Fishburne and Neil's extremely committed portrayals of their characters, pulp science-fiction archetypes they may be, the slightly ridiculous but also surprisingly effective futurist gothic set design and, perhaps to some extent, a sense of restraint that might not have been entirely intended.

There's a sorta well known anecdote, that about 20 minutes of footage was deemed to be too violent and too gruesome to make it into the theatrical cut, footage that has since been lost and degraded in storage. And while I'm certainly curious what that may have been, I'd argue that having to pull its punches when it comes to gore might have worked out in Event Horizon's favour. The fact that its scenes of Hellraiser-esque torture are only alluded to and shown in short spurts, but never dwelled on, might just be the thin line seperating it from actually turning into the exploitation movie it narrowly avoids being. The way it is now, it still maintains a certain sense of class, or as much class as something that ends on a sing by the Prodigy will ever have.

That said, I did like Event Horizon. It's fluctuating between the much smarter and the much dumber versions of itself that it could have been but it averages out at something that honestly stands as one of the better space horror movies by far. It's the sort of thing that takes a rather out there premise and spins it into something genuinely appealing. I'm not sure how the much the fabled uncut version (or, to get into that can of worms, the officially licensed Warhammer 40K version it was originally supposed to be) would have turned out but I feel what we got is as good as it could have ever been. Like all of Anderson's best movies, I think that thin veneer of shlock covers something quite compelling and quite ambitious.
I’ve always liked that as soon as they actually decrypt/decode the logs and see what the fuck happened on the Event Horizon, Fishburne just turns it off and says “Fuck it, we out” although with more gravitas and class. Lesser movies would have had them stay out of a sense of duty or something.

As for the Warhammer 40K thing, I’ve never been able to pin down any proof that it was supposed to be a 40K movie - though it very easily could be with only minor and mostly cosmetic changes - but I do know many fans consider it a good representation of both Warp travel and the perils of doing so without the Gellar Field. And it can easily be kitbashed into a pre-Imperium part of the setting.
 

Gordon_4

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Shane Black also made the worst Predator movie, so it's not like he has a completely flawless record.
No he doesn’t but it’s arguably the only true stinker on his list. And many better directors have at least one, if not more. Everything else there, even stuff he only wrote, is pretty damn good. So again, I’m blaming Marky Mark.
 
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No he doesn’t but it’s arguably the only true stinker on his list. And many better directors have at least one, if not more. Everything else there, even stuff he only wrote, is pretty damn good. So again, I’m blaming Marky Mark.
I'll take the third option and blame both.
 

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The Woman in Cabin 10

Wound up better than I thought, but just barely. Very effective at incrementally frustrating the fuck out of the viewer. I didn’t see it ending that way either, but maybe I’m an idiot.
 

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John Candy: I Like Me

An inordinately mournful look at the life of John Candy. The documentary makes two points about him: 1) he died way too fucking young and 2) nobody has a single negative thing to say about him (there's a brick joke in there: as the credits roll Bill Murray finally remembers the one time John milked a scene for a little too long). He passed away in 1994 and to this day you can't interview a single person who knew him that won't fall to pieces just remembering him. I just wish the movie would celebrate him some more for his talent rather than his untimely passing.

The Materialists

I thought this was going to be female gaze Hitch ("Isn't that just Hitch?" - girlfriend), but it's actually a pretty thoughtful and deliberate dramedy about a matchmaker having a crisis of faith. There's one too many dramatic shortcuts towards the end but I got the impression of a movie that was genuinely interested in elaborating on its own theming rather than using it as a gimmick to fuel just another romcom. Guess I'm not getting any laughs today.
 

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John Candy: I Like Me

An inordinately mournful look at the life of John Candy. The documentary makes two points about him: 1) he died way too fucking young and 2) nobody has a single negative thing to say about him (there's a brick joke in there: as the credits roll Bill Murray finally remembers the one time John milked a scene for a little too long). He passed away in 1994 and to this day you can't interview a single person who knew him that won't fall to pieces just remembering him. I just wish the movie would celebrate him some more for his talent rather than his untimely passing.
I remember hearing that after John Candy died, Steve Martin was considered for the role of The Riddler in Batman Forever, but turned it down because between his divorce, and John Candy's death, he didn't want to act at all. Really shows how much he touched people around him.

ETA: I also recommend people not watch John Candy's last film. It's not good, and really sad to see him that soon before his death.
 
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I remember hearing that after John Candy died, Steve Martin was considered for the role of The Riddler in Batman Forever, but turned it down because between his divorce, and John Candy's death, he didn't want to act at all. Really shows how much he touched people around him.

ETA: I also recommend people not watch John Candy's last film. It's not good, and really sad to see him that soon before his death.
Yeah, watch Cool Runnings instead.
 

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Or Uncle Buck. Or Space Balls. or Stripes. In fact watch any of his movies except Canadian Bacon.
I was referring to Wagons East. Never saw Canadian Bacon. He actually died before finishing Wagons East, but that didn't stop them from finishing the film.
 

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I was referring to Wagons East. Never saw Canadian Bacon. He actually died before finishing Wagons East, but that didn't stop them from finishing the film.
Don Lake who was in the movie with him says Candy died a day before wrapping up. Candy had a heart condition and was prone to panic attacks and evidently the Durango heat and all the broad physical comedy he was putting up with didn't help.

Candy's dad died at 35 from a heart attack during his 5th birthday, and the documentary posits this is something that traumatised and weighed on him (especially the fact that the birthday went on) and informed the notion that he himself wouldn't make it to 35 (he died at 43) and was always living on borrowed time. And this was only exacerbated when all at once Belushi died and Candy's brother suffered a heart attack (but lived). Poor dude.
 
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Which is why I'll never ever get 4k versions of old movies from the 80-2000s. Especially if it's live action. I'll stick with my blue ray release. Cameron pretty much sold us all out on these. Fuck him.
The quality is hit or miss. The Thing, The Lost Boys. and Jaws for example look really good in 4K. Yet newer films like Mad Max: Fury Road, and Furiosa look not much better than the blu-ray. Speaking of, I'm finding regular blu-rays have benefitted the most now that I got a 4K screen. The contrast and colours pop far more than most movies I have on 4K.

I think only True Lies, The Abyss, and the newer releases of Terminator 2, and Aliens got the A.I. treatment though. Pretty much every other 4K blu-ray is safe from that (for now).