You should probably not depend on things just seeming obvious to you for an argument.
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The history of cooperation between conservatives and Nazis before the enabling act, & the shared political ground, have made it obvious.
The conservatives were not the primary targets of coercion because there wasn't much need to coerce them. The SDP and KPD faced magnitudes worse from the far-right, and managed to vote against the act/ abstain respectively.
Abstain? Silvanus, their entire political party was being rounded up and imprisoned. Not just the 80 or so politicians, thousands of people jailed. Habeus corpus was suspended, and opposition to the Nazis was sufficient justification for arrest. Not a single KPD member was allowed to vote, it wasn't a choice.
Can you not fucking read what I say?
I said the covid vaccine protects against severe disease. It does not protect from getting mild disease and being infected again whatsoever. The narrative that you get the vaccine and you are protected from getting covid and from transmitting covid was bullshit, it was never true. The fact that they called covid reinfections, breakthrough infections, literally proves that. That is what Paul Offit said.
Paul Offit literally said what I claim:
And for the first year, the question was, did protection hold up against serious illness? ‘Cause that’s the goal. That’s the only reasonable goal for this vaccine. It’s the only attainable goal for this vaccine. You’re not gonna be able to protect against mild disease for this kind of virus for any length of time.
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2-4 colds / year is the average a person gets. You don't catch colds by merely walking around the grocery store (not saying it's a 0% chance but it's extremely low). You catch colds from family, friends, co-workers; the people you are around for long periods of time that are sick.
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Uhh... Look at the percentage of kids that got covid before the vaccine was even available for them. If you got covid, natural infection, the vaccine provides no benefits whatsoever... just like, you know, any other vaccine (sometimes you need a booster after so many years but covid is still way to recent to be needing boosters for healthy people). Show me any data showing healthy people that got covid gained any benefit from a vaccine. If you're saying I or anyone need or should get this, you need to provide data to validate your claim.
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No, I didn't shift the conversation, that's what I said literally the whole time (that's what UNICEF said in the article I posted). You keep insisting that other countries didn't have issues with immunization programs when that was never my claim.
You can't treat the rest of the world like Australia. Australia closed up before covid got in essentially. The US or Europe or most other places could not do the same thing as Australia. You keep making these massive logic mistakes.
Good luck to the Iranian/Persian people.
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Ah, right you are-- i had thought that was later. My mistake.
And the SPD, under more severe intimidation than any other party present, provided all votes against. Were the conservatives just that much more susceptible to milder intimidation? No: their history tells us coercion wasn't required to secure their assistance.
Odd, this doesn't concern you much nowadays.
Paul Offit is not saying what you claim. That you fail to recognise this shows how poorly you understood his words in general.
Once again: in context, he is speaking on the national, societal level. He is saying that attempting to prevent mild disease circulating, through vaccination, is a fool's errand-- because protection is very time-limited.
Here's another quote from Offit: "We know that when Pfizer did its trial of 44,000 people or Moderna did a trial with 30,000 people, what they both showed was that those vaccines could prevent disease, mild, moderate, or severe disease".
Yet people do.
Tell me this. If a virus is transmitted through coughs, airborne droplets or fomite transmission, why would it be only possible to transmit through extended contact? Viruses don't need a bridge to sit there for hours. The droplet reaches you, it can infect you.
K. So when Offit says something you don't like, suddenly your appreciation for his authority disappears.
No. Initially you insinuated that lockdowns somehow necessitated these programs ending. But that was bullshit. So now you're complaining about aid getting cut, though nobody here supported that and lockdowns didn't require that either.
To what history do you refer? When prior did they ally with the Nazis that would lead you to believe hellthe enabling act was continued support? The parliament went 6 months without a ruling coalition to function because nobody would work with them.
Have a look at DNVP approach to the 1930 election, their joint effort to force Prussia's government to collapse in 1931, the Liberty Law campaign, & the Harzburg Front.
Harzburg Front - Wikipedia
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You listed a bunch of examples of them failing to cooperate for a few years before the Nazis claimed unilateral control and banned all the other parties.
Concludes whoever edited Wikipedia. Yet the DNVP itself was pursuing a venomously anti-Semitic agenda, and released a statement saying there was little meaningful difference in policy between them.
"They failed so therefore it didn't happen".
The same rationale he uses to justify January 6th.
This does not make sense. Yes, Australia closed up before Covid got in. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT, YOU ACTUAL DUMBASS
For example, Trump knew about COVID in Jan 2020. HE decided to keep everything open and let COIVD become unmanageable. He literally killed hundreds of thousands of people to keep the economy open
Oh, the link between economy and Trump's actions is more than that. Trump was busy telling everyone that Covid was under control until March 16th 2020, when he finally started calling it a pandemic and started doing something. Do you know what had just happened to prompt this?
The stock market crashed.
That's the real guide to how the USA works. Covid wasn't treated as a problem until business decided that it was. Once the finance industry telegraphed their concerns to the government via share prices, then the government decided maybe it needed do something.
The WHO declared it a pandemic only a few days earlier, and he was following their lead at that point. That's what happened to prompt it.
This claim is ridiculous given Trump's long history of not giving a shit what international bodies think.
Let's set that aside for a second then.
The WHO did not declare a pandemic until mid-March of 2020. Do you think their decision to make that declaration was determined by the stock market?
The issue is not the "declare a pandemic" part than the "started doing something". The fact you're concentrating on the wrong part tells me you're just doing that same old dishonest right-wing shill stuff or don't understand what's going on.
The WHO warned that Covid-19 was a major public health emergency towards the end of January 2020 - that was the trigger that should have moved action. Instead Donald Trump (and he wasn't the only offender) just told everyone it wasn't a problem and was just going to go away. All the warnings, all the risks, but it was the stock market that really made the decision, and thus Trump wasted weeks of preparation time.