Highguard; Geoff, are you high?

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You know they're panicking. They've just slapped a 5v5 mode into the game. lol
Well, it adresses the issue most complained about. Good move by the devs.

I still don't have interest in the genre personally, but actually listenng to players is what people always demand.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Are you upset because you actually like the game?

Its okay to like trash sometimes. I like McDonalds. Its shit but it tastes good once In a while....fuck im hungry now.
Nope, haven't played it, not gonna. I'm not doing multiplayer games right now and if I was I would probably play Space Marine 2 or Deep Rock Galactic, if I wanted pvp, I would finally install Smite 2 since I put thousands of hours into the original Smite.

I don't like to see the hate mob just jumping on something that doesn't look like it deserves it. If you are going to hate, you have to hate for the right reasons or else you are just dumb.
 
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I don't like to see the hate mob just jumping on something that doesn't look like it deserves it. If you are going to hate, you have to hate for the right reasons or else you are just dumb.
I dont really see any hate, more like enjoyment of watching something flop. Like the Melania movie.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I dont really see any hate, more like enjoyment of watching something flop. Like the Melania movie.
Nah, this feels a bit more directed then that, even though that was much much more worthy of hate. Bullshit propaganda just for government money.
 
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Nah, this feels a bit more directed then that, even though that was much much more worthy of hate. Bullshit propaganda just for government money.
I can't see that man, honestly. There is nobody calling the devs to drop dead, no real hate towards anyone. Just disappointment towards Geoff a bit and just frustration of yet another boring hero shooter to add to the pile. It just seems like people wanting to watch the trainwreck which is a fairly normal thing.
 

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can't see that man, honestly. There is nobody calling the devs to drop dead, no real hate towards anyone
You haven't been looking hard enough (you don't even have to look hard) or not at all. With all the clickbait videos on youtube trashing the game and almost none of them play it. They may not want the developers dead, but they sure, as hell want them to be dragged through the mud and humiliated. Absolutely unnecessary by any means. Nick pointed this out.
 

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You haven't been looking hard enough (you don't even have to look hard) or not at all. With all the clickbait videos on youtube trashing the game and almost none of them play it. They may not want the developers dead, but they sure, as hell want them to be dragged through the mud and humiliated. Absolutely unnecessary by any means. Nick pointed this out.
Im exclusively talking about this thread, not across the whole internet. There is none of that here.
 

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Not sure what all the fuss is about, seemed alright to me, especially for free. Felt good to shoot and looked alright too, usually it's a lot worse for F2P experiences. Also I don't care about award shows, especially any hype they attempt to manufacture, so expectations may have been different.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Im exclusively talking about this thread, not across the whole internet. There is none of that here.
I'm talking about mainly beyond this thread, but even just this thread. This game doesn't really warrant all this attention.
 
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Screw it I'll jump in.

Yes I've played it.
No won't be sticking with it.

5 vs 5 improved things but man the game has issues.

So they've put in a new character, he's bugged and broken to an OP degree so far, his active ability he's meant to send out a wolf spirit thing that finds injured players and marks them for your team. It doesn't work it finds any player and the game considers them injured even at full armour and health I'm guessing due to a bug thinking unless they have endgame armour they're not full health so every enemy gets marked and thus he's a better version of an existing character whose detection ability only works if enemies move and it tells them when the scan happens so they know to stay still.

The gear up stage gets boring if you end up relying on mining the gems to get currency to trade with it feels like we at least need to be shooting enemies carrying the crystals or something.

They either need to make walls harder to break (Reinforced walls just take 2 hits or a thumper charge to destroy normal walls 1 hit or can be destroyed via multiple melee strikes or one of the characters who has as his active ability the ability 2 charges where he can smash walls) or easier to repair. It shouldn't be so quick an enemy can 1 shot the wall you spent 15 seconds repairing.

Weapon balance is still an issue. Some weapons are just useless or inferior to others it's not different usage cases it's just inferior like the burst fire assault rifle either of the others is just outright better. Or the auto shotgun, I've not got 1 kill with the thing but the pump action Kraken I can devastate with.

The community. Oh man I've played Dota 2 and I've been playing Rivals a lot. I've not played a game with a community this in need of some Chlorine in the pool than this one. It's like being back in the old COD Lobby days, only this game requires some teamwork and co-ordination so Johnny 12 year old on about how much of a 1337 sniper he is who couldn't hit a bar with a nuclear explosion and keeps dying then ragequits but to avoid leaver penalty AFKs at the spawn and the game takes 5 or more minutes to remove them isn't great. Nor the people who apparently don't understand basics like actually getting armour in the game or being so stupid I swear this happened, one dude didn't know how to open the chests to get items. It's 1 button press and he followed me round all game waiting for me to open the chests then running over to try and grab stuff. I've had mic spam, people yelling about Noob team (the guy had least kills and revives all game). The matchmaking doesn't seem to fix this either I've had few close games and far more absolute stomps or been absolutely stomped. Oh and with crossplay on I'm pretty sure I've run into hackers too.

Gameplay wise it feels like a rougher Apex Legends. In Apex I wasn't bad but here because there's no restoration items it's trying to be more tactical but it often comes down to whose got the most people nearby in a fight than some skilled battle. It's like congrats you killed the enemy, you have no armour and probably only half health hope you can hide in cover before one of his team mates comes in and kills you anyway. Oh but you can restore health and armour if you banish the enemies soul gem........ which is now in the wide open in perfect sight line for the enemies team mates so even if you do it you'll be getting shot to pieces and lose all the restored armour and health so hiding for it to regen is somehow the best option.
 
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Still on the fence whether Keighley hyping it up at TGA was a kiss of deah for this game, or the only reason it got any real attention at all. Or both?

Either way, shit is cutthroat out there.
 

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Yay, you did it, you helped whine them to death. Now no one will ever make another game like that again.
In all honesty : We have recently had disappointing numbers from Sega, EA, Microsoft and Nintendo. Ubisoft is completely collapsing and might die. The mobile gaming market has stopped growing and the competition is getting only more fierce there, it is no longer the future of gaming or some such nonsense.

From investor perspective i would not want companies to chase trends of yesteryear. It is time for a new shiny thing everyone can try to emulate.

We recently had very public very embarrassing failures of Hyenas, Concord and now this and a couple more with a lower profile. A developer trying to get money for yet another hero looter shooter might fight an uphill battle. Things that are close to release might be finished though
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
From investor perspective i would not want companies to chase trends of yesteryear. It is time for a new shiny thing everyone can try to emulate.
From an investor perspective it sounds like they are pulling out of traditional games and betting on weird ai stuff.
 

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From an investor perspective it sounds like they are pulling out of traditional games and betting on weird ai stuff.
Not anymore.

Even Venture Capital has mostly stopped investing in AI a couple months ago. Too much bubble, too little chance finding a bigger fool.
 

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From an investor perspective it sounds like they are pulling out of traditional games and betting on weird ai stuff.
One one hand that might put the industry in a bit of a crisis. On the other hand we're well rid of the influance of the investor class
 

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I think Concord 2 is gonna be gone soon.
Well at the very least it seems to have outlived concord!

Honestly, I blame this on whoever was in charge of marketing, and that one moron who said "We don't need player count to be super high in order to be successful". Seriously, who releases development videos and lore videos AFTER THE GAME GETS RELEASED?