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Ok, so the half-time show used to be stuff like marching bands because the NFL liked to keep it cheap. But while people stayed on the channel airing the superbowl, few actually cared about the show. Take a piss, grab a drink and snacks. You know, break time.

Then in 1992 Fox commissioned the Wayans to do a special episode of In Living Color to be aired live during the halftime show as counterprogramming. And it worked like gangbusters, and like 25 million people switched to Fox to watch the special instead of the halftime show, a 22% reduction in viewership.

The NFL saw that shit. Didn't like it. The next year they booked Michael Jackson, and the rest is history
Huh, I didn't know that. Thanks for explaining.
 
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So does anybody remember Inception? Remember the ending where he spins the top and it cuts to credits seconds before it topples over and left us hanging as to whether he was still in a dream? This was such a bummer to me when I watched the movie for the first time, and kind of pulled the film down in my opinion. It turns out that it actually wasn't a cliffhanger at all, the answer was in the film, clear as day! He only wears his wedding ring in a dream! He never wears it in the real world, and is always wearing it in a dream. The movie is just faking you out with all the top business, because he isn't wearing the ring at the end of the movie. The movie never draws your attention to this and actually barely ever has his hands in the shot.

I saw somebody mention this the other day and had to re-watch the movie to confirm it.
 
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So does anybody remember Inception? Remember the ending where he spins the top and it cuts to credits seconds before it topples over and left us hanging as to whether he was still in a dream? This was such a bummer to me when I watched the movie for the first time, and kind of pulled the film down in my opinion. It turns out that it actually wasn't a cliffhanger at all, the answer was in the film, clear as day! He only wears his wedding ring in a dream! He never wears it in the real world, and is always wearing it in a dream. The movie is just faking you out with all the top business, because he isn't wearing the ring at the end of the movie. The movie never draws your attention to this and actually barely ever has his hands in the shot.

I saw somebody mention this the other day and had to re-watch the movie to confirm it.
Word of God says that all scenes with Michael Caine in them were in the real world as well.
 
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This likely tastes pretty good, and is appalling.

Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating horse is appaling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, chicken?
 

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Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating horse is appaling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, chicken?
Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating cat/dog is appalling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, horse?

Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.
 

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Word of God says that all scenes with Michael Caine in them were in the real world as well.
I.E. scenes in which Cobb isn't wearing his ring. I don't put much weight in Word of God if it isn't well supported by the text, but in this case it is.
 

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Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating horse is appaling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, chicken?
I think, like with dogs, its because we worked closely with horses for a long, long time. We trusted them to transport our cargo, plough our fields, and even go with us to war. We used them like that for centuries. I have no doubt people would eat a horse if the choice was that or starvation, but the only animal we'd put over them is the dog.
 
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Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating cat/dog is appalling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, horse?

Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.
Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for human wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating people is appalling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, cats/dogs?

I recently watched Pluribus though.
 
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Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating cat/dog is appalling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, horse?

Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.
Nope, neither vegetarian nor vegan. And I basically have no moral or ethical compunctions about eating any animal, provided it is safe for human consumption and legal to eat. I won't seek it out, but should the opportunity arise, I'm willing to try dog or cat.
 

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So does anybody remember Inception? Remember the ending where he spins the top and it cuts to credits seconds before it topples over and left us hanging as to whether he was still in a dream? This was such a bummer to me when I watched the movie for the first time, and kind of pulled the film down in my opinion. It turns out that it actually wasn't a cliffhanger at all, the answer was in the film, clear as day! He only wears his wedding ring in a dream! He never wears it in the real world, and is always wearing it in a dream. The movie is just faking you out with all the top business, because he isn't wearing the ring at the end of the movie. The movie never draws your attention to this and actually barely ever has his hands in the shot.

I saw somebody mention this the other day and had to re-watch the movie to confirm it.
The one thing that never made sense to me was why would the top continue to spin in someone's dream. The weighted dice makes sense because the person dreaming would just think it's a dice and wouldn't know it's weighted obviously. But why would a person dream that some random top would keep spinning? I don't get how that was a check that you're in a dream or not.
 

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I think, like with dogs, its because we worked closely with horses for a long, long time. We trusted them to transport our cargo, plough our fields, and even go with us to war. We used them like that for centuries. I have no doubt people would eat a horse if the choice was that or starvation, but the only animal we'd put over them is the dog.
Most cultures that have horses also ate horse meat. Most cultures don't eat dogs or cats except in times of emergency. The reason is that dogs and cats are carnivores and don't actually taste very good. Most cultures don't eat carnivore meat.

I mean, I personally wouldn't eat dogs or cats because they're pets, and I wouldn't eat horse or guinea pig for the same reason, but there's actually still a pretty large horse meat industry world-wide. That's part of the reason that horse leather is still very common for clothing. Pretty much all leather is a byproduct of the meat industry and animals generally aren't farmed just for leather.
 

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The one thing that never made sense to me was why would the top continue to spin in someone's dream. The weighted dice makes sense because the person dreaming would just think it's a dice and wouldn't know it's weighted obviously. But why would a person dream that some random top would keep spinning? I don't get how that was a check that you're in a dream or not.
The top is something that could actually make sense for dreams. Like you might spin a top and it could just spin forever because physics don't exist and your brain just might forget about making it fall over. It's similar to a reality check that someone who is training themselves to do lucid dreams might do, just something that you do all the time to prompt yourself to realize you are dreaming. The problem is that dreams in Inception aren't very much like dreams at all. They have very specific logic and rules, and weird time dilation mechanics that don't actually make any sense whatsoever. They behave more like dives into virtual reality than actual dreams.
Nope, neither vegetarian nor vegan. And I basically have no moral or ethical compunctions about eating any animal, provided it is safe for human consumption and legal to eat. I won't seek it out, but should the opportunity arise, I'm willing to try dog or cat.

You monster.
 

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Honest question, are you vegetarian or vegan, out of ethical concern for animal wellbeing, or similar reason?

If not, what about eating horse is appaling to you that you don't feel the same about other meats, say, chicken?
Horses, dogs, and cats are useful, and have a storied history of being allies to humanity. Cows, pigs, and chicken are a current necessary evil to lab grown meat because the general public is made up of idiots who keep rejecting it. Vegetarian, and vegan beef jerky isn't sold in my Walmart, or Costco because idiots keep railing about the WEF eventually forcing them to eat bugs. So I guess ethical concern. That said I have killed many bugs, spiders, and worms.
 
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Most cultures that have horses also ate horse meat. Most cultures don't eat dogs or cats except in times of emergency. The reason is that dogs and cats are carnivores and don't actually taste very good. Most cultures don't eat carnivore meat.
Also, you generally have to feed the carnivore meat from an animal you could eat yourself, it's not as efficient.
 

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Also, you generally have to feed the carnivore meat from an animal you could eat yourself, it's not as efficient.
This is also true, though even in situations where the carnivore isn't farmed but hunted they still aren't generally eaten unless the people doing so are desperate. No one eats wolves or coyotes, or tigers.

China and Korea really seem to be the exception to this where they intentionally breed dogs and cats for consumption even though they don't taste good as it's just "part of their culture." The Japanese are the same with whales. Whale meat doesn't taste good, they just hunt and kill them because of national pride.
 

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This is also true, though even in situations where the carnivore isn't farmed but hunted they still aren't generally eaten unless the people doing so are desperate. No one eats wolves or coyotes, or tigers.
Ah, good point, I'd not considered that.
 

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Eating horse is still regarded as somewhat normal, at least in rural communities. But horses are not raised for meat. They are way too inefficient for that. So horse meat generally comes from older horses or injured horses.

Dogs are not eaten eround here. But enough stories float around about eating dogs in dire times. It is very much possible and reportedly does taste well enough. But those dogs were never raised for meat either in this area.

Cats... there not even credible stories about that ever having been a relevant thing, not even in said dire times. Supposedly they taste like crap (so someone must have tried) and don't actually produce all that much meat in the first place.

Furthermore, both with cats and dogs, but specifically with cats you would have to be very careful regarding parasites. The general free range lifestyle and them being carnivores is a dangerous combination.


As for the "don't eat carnivores" thing that is common but somehow nearly every culture makes an exception when it comes to fish.
 
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