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Brutalism is like any art form: it can be done well and be magnificent, or done badly and be awful.

I kind of like it. At best, it looked futuristic, space age (now retro space age); some of it is genuinely interesting and attractive. In design ethos, I think it had an admirable element of community and equality. No wonder it fell out of favour with an increasing individualist, atomised society.
You can like the style as a matter of taste, that's subjective. I don't think it's quite as awful as people say, but I also like the weird MLK hugging statue from a couple years ago that most people hated. That's taste, that's fine.

The text on the building, however, is objectively terrible. All caps, blocky, sans serif font that's flush with, the same color as, and bleeding into the lines between them (for example, an I and a T are entirely identical, E and F are also indistinguishable) with inconsistent letter spacing even inside of words, reading across a 90 degree turn on a surface that tilts away from the viewer on the ground, with text wrapping to the next line mid word with no indicator that the word was broken there and you not only have to recognize that you only see half the word, you have to remember what you read while you reconfigure to read the next line on the opposite side of the corner, which is difficult for your eyes to track naturally because if you're not 100 ft in the air, you're reading the lines in a v pattern from your perspective, and depending on lighting and glare you might have to physically move to a new position each half line to jump back and forth between them...

Style is mostly subjective, readability much less so, and they managed to make a 3ft tall standardized font actively difficult to read.
 

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I try to stay out of R&P as much as possible, but this was so funny I had to post it. Reality? Parody? Who knows.

 
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The text on the building, however, is objectively terrible
Sure. In that case:

This is an objectively terrible painting of water lilies:
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This is an objectively terrible painting of a pier projecting out into an ocean:
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This is an objectively terrible painting of a person:
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And as has already been explained to you, much more of the energy generated from fossil fuels is wasted.



You mean the article that explained exactly how the problem has been overcome? You may not have read it properly; it wouldn't be the first time.



I provided a source for the wildly high subsidies incurred by fossil fuels. And explained how many of them favour fossil fuels much more than they do renewables.

if you think renewables incur the same/more, at this point its on you to pony up. Because we have zero sources showing an equivalent number for them.



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You go for whatever satisfies your pre-existing assumptions and prejudices, and don't give a toss about anyone else.
You have any proof or just your explanation?

It's a very new technology, hence the problem was very much a problem a very very very short time ago. The video I linked is like a year old. And also no reason to have built a ton of infrastructure for renewables like wind and solar 5 years ago (or 10 years ago) when the problem was a problem without a solution. You're literally paying higher energy costs because of switching to renewables too fast. Other solutions like nuclear and hydro (I assume hydro would be a good idea for Britain, though I could be wrong) would've been better for your country.

No you didn't, that simply isn't true. The only article you ever produced just gave a number of the subsidies for fossil fuels with no comparison.

Why would I want say nuclear power to be better than wind or solar? I don't have some emotional attachment to energy sources. I also know it's rather rare for medicines/drugs to attack the root cause of a health issue, but most people and doctors just take a drug and then don't actually attack the root cause of the issue. How is this all about me?
 

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You have any proof or just your explanation?
Proof of what part? Of how energy from fossil fuel generation is wasted?


Between half and two thirds is wasted or expended in its own generation. That is far and away more inefficient than any estimate for renewables.

It's a very new technology, hence the problem was very much a problem a very very very short time ago. The video I linked is like a year old. And also no reason to have built a ton of infrastructure for renewables like wind and solar 5 years ago (or 10 years ago) when the problem was a problem without a solution.
"No reason to invest in infrastructure for the future" is an odd and self-defeating way to run a country.

You're literally paying higher energy costs because of switching to renewables too fast.
For the second time: energy prices are set by the private energy companies. Generating renewables is cheaper, but companies do not pass the lower cost to the consumer.

No you didn't, that simply isn't true. The only article you ever produced just gave a number of the subsidies for fossil fuels with no comparison.
Dude, you already provided government stats for subsidies of both fossil fuels and renewables.

I then demonstrated that those government stats massively underestimate fossil fuel subsidies.

And now you want me to... prove that your own stat isn't underestimating subsidies for renewables?

Why would I want say nuclear power to be better than wind or solar? I don't have some emotional attachment to energy sources.
You clearly do, though. You want to argue renewables are super impossible to integrate because you've bought into (fossil fuel industry) propaganda on that line.
 

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Seems Starmer is gone and now the UK can have a PM that actually wants to protect the country from the far right.

Suppose that on some level it is a bit tragic. The media did go all out on Starmer to boost the right, and to some extend voters blame Starmer for not fixing problems not caused by him and that were always going to take a long time. While voters often give all manner of excuses to blame the far right they are equally fast to blame non far right politicians for not fixing problems yesterday.

But Starmer insisting to rule as a Torie after Britain was sick to death of a decade+ of conservative misrule did not help. This was not the time for more neoliberalism but he stubbornly clung to it even if it risked a Farage regime. He is not the leader Britain and Europe need right now and his absence is thus required for things to get better.
 
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Well, Starmer was really bad and nearly killed Labor. It is not hard to be a better option than him. Will it be enough though ?
 

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But Starmer insisting to rule as a Torie after Britain was sick to death of a decade+ of conservative misrule did not help.
Eh, people are predicting the UK moves to even worse conservative misrule after the next election.
 

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Proof of what part? Of how energy from fossil fuel generation is wasted?


Between half and two thirds is wasted or expended in its own generation. That is far and away more inefficient than any estimate for renewables.



"No reason to invest in infrastructure for the future" is an odd and self-defeating way to run a country.



For the second time: energy prices are set by the private energy companies. Generating renewables is cheaper, but companies do not pass the lower cost to the consumer.



Dude, you already provided government stats for subsidies of both fossil fuels and renewables.

I then demonstrated that those government stats massively underestimate fossil fuel subsidies.

And now you want me to... prove that your own stat isn't underestimating subsidies for renewables?



You clearly do, though. You want to argue renewables are super impossible to integrate because you've bought into (fossil fuel industry) propaganda on that line.
That article also greatly underestimates inefficiencies in renewables. Also, cost matters as well, the article mentions that EVs are far more efficient than ICE but EVs without subsidies are completely unaffordable (at least just a few years ago, maybe they are legit affordable now but they also kill the used car market though).

Could've invested in infrastructure for a very well known technology vs an unknown one with issues that didn't have solutions.

Britain puts hidden taxes in the energy bill. Also, the renewables you built and paid for had to be turned of over half the time because you didn't have grid infrastructure to move the output. Putting all that money into renewables was a bad idea and very inefficient (since you like being efficient and all).

You've never shown that fossil fuel subsidies currently exceed renewables in the US. Even if my source is indeed massively underestimating fossil fuel subsidies, renewables could still easily be getting more subsidies.

There's been like no reason to invest into wind/solar when other better alternatives like nuclear have already existed.
 

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Eh, people are predicting the UK moves to even worse conservative misrule after the next election.
Indeed because their voters have the memory of a goldfish. After everyone more or less conceded Brexit failed they now want the guy who conned them into voting for Brexit?

Its weird that people go ''Okay I know he tricked us into disaster last time but THIS time its gonna be different''

Not at all helped by the fact its now pretty open knowledge the Epstein class was pulling some strings behind the scenes. Not all strings but the worst people imaginable, and pedophiles to boot being so invested and involved in a movement should already signal the whole affair was born out of bad intention and desire to do harm.
 

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Seems Starmer is gone and now the UK can have a PM that actually wants to protect the country from the far right.

Suppose that on some level it is a bit tragic. The media did go all out on Starmer to boost the right, and to some extend voters blame Starmer for not fixing problems not caused by him and that were always going to take a long time. While voters often give all manner of excuses to blame the far right they are equally fast to blame non far right politicians for not fixing problems yesterday.

But Starmer insisting to rule as a Torie after Britain was sick to death of a decade+ of conservative misrule did not help. This was not the time for more neoliberalism but he stubbornly clung to it even if it risked a Farage regime. He is not the leader Britain and Europe need right now and his absence is thus required for things to get better.
There goes my UK thread I was going to make in the future partially complaining about the UK Centre-Left/Labour Party, now it's mostly going to be a one-sided rant against the conservatives, the Anti-British interest Corbynites, UKIP, and the near-treasonous SNP and corrupt Nicola Sturgeon. Also for you people in the UK, I will be surprisedly... mostly defending you guys, and things like the Falklands War(Not Ireland tho) in a strange way. And I am surprisingly pro-Queen Elizabeth II. In fact You will be surprised where I defend you guys, and where I don't.