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Related to stop killing games, and the ESA being bitches.

Okay I saw this on reddit, did a bit of reading and if I'm understanding it correctly: technically, the ESA are right (Gods I need a shower).

Specifically they're talking about private servers for shuttered live services games - Anthem for example - qualifying as software piracy since shutdown or no, that software is still the legal property of its publisher and unauthorised use is unauthorised use. It is absolutely stupid as hell for that to be the case, but it currently IS the case.

Now this fucking muppet and his colleagues made that a blanket statement for all dedicated servers which is of course super dumb because many LAN multiplayer games have had that function as a sort of expected feature until Broadband/XBox Live killed LAN gaming (outside of old holdouts like me) and then Modern Warfare 2 (the OG) dropping it in favour of P2P hosting - remember that 'protest' that lasted about, eight seconds? I sure do - pretty much signed the function's death warrant.
 
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Okay I saw this on reddit, did a bit of reading and if I'm understanding it correctly: technically, the ESA are right (Gods I need a shower).

Specifically they're talking about private servers for shuttered live services games - Anthem for example - qualifying as software piracy since shutdown or no, that software is still the legal property of its publisher and unauthorised use is unauthorised use. It is absolutely stupid as hell for that to be the case, but it currently IS the case.

Now this fucking muppet and his colleagues made that a blanket statement for all dedicated servers which is of course super dumb because many LAN multiplayer games have had that function as a sort of expected feature until Broadband/XBox Live killed LAN gaming (outside of old holdouts like me) and then Modern Warfare 2 (the OG) dropping it in favour of P2P hosting - remember that 'protest' that lasted about, eight seconds? I sure do - pretty much signed the function's death warrant.
Charlie and others make a note of it, but as you mentioned in the second paragraph, none of them can care about the actual legalities or stuff that aren't harming anything. Oh, and I most definitely remember that protest and laughing at the people who didn't do a darn thing.

I forgot Kojima was doing this. Nothing against the man, but microsoft could cut him, and they [Kojima and his team] wouldn't lose much. Not gonna gain much staying on xbox anyway.
 

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We really are living in end times
Looks like I'll be getting a Switch 2 sooner.

How does sony even expect to sell a PS6 whenever they eventually get there? Especially with all these outrageous prices.
 

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Bold decision from a company that has been taking pretty consistent Ls. But then again, when you don't really have competition, can you really lose?

Fuck this shit man. We were already having a hard time finding a PS5 with a disc drive.
 
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Bold decision from a company that has been taking pretty consistent Ls. But then again, when you don't really have competition, can you really lose?

Fuck this shit man. We were already having a hard time finding a PS5 with a disc drive.
Sony just deleted 551 movies from people's digital libraries too. So to announce their games are going to be all digital now is not a good look.

Then again PC players have been living in fear for decades since every game is digital on PC and could vanish forever at any given time. I remember I got this one game last about a Guard that was High and i can't find it anywhere.
 

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"We’ll continue to prioritize our resources to drive innovation in how players can access games and provide choices as to where players prefer to purchase new games, whether that’s at retailers or PlayStation Store."

Lol. No, they won't. That's the whole point. You will only buy from PlayStation Store. They always wanted to fully control the marketplace on their closed platform, and now they will. By "retailers" they mean their gift cards, but the purchase will still be made on PlayStation Store.

They may remove games or go out of business. My account could be banned or stolen and I might find that Sony's customer service is, indeed, difficult to work with. A disc was the one thing consoles still had over computers.

I started a new PSN account in 2015 because I could not change the country or name. I created it when I lived in my home country, where I expected at one time to stay. When you use a local payment method on Steam, the account is automatically updated to that country, so I used the same one in both countries and was always able to make purchases. It would have sucked if I had more digital games on that old PSN account than Ico and the two free games I received as an apology for the notorious hack, Super Stardust HD and LittleBigPlanet.

It comes a week after Sony removed all StudioCanal movies from people's accounts without refunding them. Like Mister Rossman said, they can't claim to sell you products that they don't own (StudioCanal owns them.) and change the language 26 pages into the user agreement.

 
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it's funny that this is the same shit Jim Sterling used to say. Directed mostly at Nintendo but still the point remains the same.

I think this should drive Emulation and Rom makers harder. Or someone should take this to court, because people aren't stealing out of an affordability issue (generally). Instead now you have the argument that you pay for something that at any time the company could decide you don't get to have it anymore and yank it from you.

So how can they claim that piracy is theft if it's the only way for people to ensure that they keep the things they bought? Or furthermore how can they justify selling a product, because a game is a product not a service or rental, that they can revoke from you at any time for no reason at all.

Fuck these people dude. Digital sucks.
 

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funny that this is the same shit Jim Sterling used to say. Directed mostly at Nintendo but still the point remains the same.
No, sterling more than directed the same ire at Microsoft & Sony, more than a few times. She called out a lot of things years ago, but it was just a matter of anybody bothered to listen.
 

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Goodbye Xbox, too.

Maybe Nintendo will bounce back into the main console market again and they've just been playing the long game this whole time.
Speaking of MS:

Well I guess it's better than only having digital "ownership". Too bad it's looking to be a bit too late to make any positive changes!
 

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The only silver lining is going to be the inevitable announcement of the PS6, and how on god's green Earth Sony is going to try and to sell this thing. It's going to be fucking hilarious!

This whole thing has disillusioned me on all videogames now. Maybe I'll just get an old fashioned stick and hoop and have my fun that way.

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