Riiiight. Except my point was specifically about why anti-fascists and anti-racists feel they need to turn out, in response to the threat from far-right groups. The threat from far-right groups was the topic.
The "threat of far-left violence" isn't relevant to that, is it? Maybe if we were talking about right-wing counter-demonstrators feeling they had to turn out... but we weren't.
Ah yes the Far right groups who so far I've not seen any reports of actual inured officers. Yes they tried but again the previous week saw 27 officers injured so hardly a threat there.
Again let them be bitter fools on their own mostly they only want attention anyway.
Neither, because that's a false binary.
No because they're mutually exclusive states
You can't be not a group at all just people with the mindset of being Anti-fascist = AntiFA
But also a group with select membership and exclude people who are Anti-Fascist when the only requirement to call yourself AntiFA is the position of opposing fascism
It's a group, mostly defined by self-identification and turning out to their events. No membership or specific criteria beyond that required, except for broad agreement with their stances. But you can't just term anybody you don't like "Antifa" if they don't turn up to Antifa events, or self-identify with the group.
Why not they identify as Anti Fascists clearly by their actions alone.
How do you know they don't turn up to events. Heck if you're holding events that means organisers so AntiFA is a group then
No, that's not how it works. There are thousands of Protestant churches, and there are protestants belonging to no church.
And Church Councils.
Council Leaders
Heck most Churches have a literal preacher preaching to people.
They have structure.
Also they're thinking of Catholics BTW. You're always a Catholic
Yes, I know who he was referring to. I am able to listen to the words come out of his mouth as he refers to white supremacists as "very fine people" and recognise what those words mean, thank you.
I believe the exact thing he said was "Some of the people at the rally were likely very fine people". Note the rally was called 'Unite the right' and wasn't an exclusive white supremacist created white supremacist only event.
I recall a video (struggling to locate it) of a Republican church group with a Black Minister who set up stage in one area and preached peacefully in the day time on the Saturday.
Someone disagreeing with you doesn't mean they're being misled by the evil media.
No but there's plenty of fake news out there by less than honest actors.
Lets play a game shall we?
Truth or Fake News. There have all been stories shared round in the past few years, can you spot the True ones from the one that were found to be fake news?
Photo shows Children in a cage as a result of Trump's boarder patrol Policy
(as you'll need the photo, it's here)
Trump orders Whitehouse Officials make tv channel for him of footage of Gorillas
Trump stole a little boys hat and threw it into the crowd.
Trump made a little girl cry in the oval office.
A Russian sex Woker claimed Trump was a client of hers and he has a small penis.
Trump made a political gaf by throwing all his fish feed into a Koi pond thus overfeeding them and did so in a fit of impatience
Trump appears alongside bible quote from Jesus seemingly presenting him and christ
Trump called all immigrants animals
Additional Donald Trump stars were added to the Hollywood Walk of fame
President Donald Trump began a policy of forcing detained immigrants scheduled for criminal prosecution to wear identifying wristbands and yellow bracelets
You can buy a Trumpy bear and it is a for real product
the Secret Service ran out of money for the year due to the demands of protecting President Trump and his family
Donald Trump reinstated a day of commemoration for fallen police, which had been cancelled by Barack Obama
That should keep going going for a while.
Try and do it without google BTW you don't have to reply to me on these it's more just to show things.
But people are not entitled to that platform. That platform is not protected by freedom of speech. If freedom of speech entitled us to that platform, then everybody who doesn't get to speak at Berkeley-- I.E., the vast majority of us-- would be having our right to free speech infringed.
No but if you are invited onto the platform by students then it is their choice to have you speak there. It is also publicly funded this 1st amendment rights would protect some-ones right to speak there. That would include should you want to going there and standing on a box to shout should you want to.
Yup, they do indeed. And the First Amendment doesn't entitle anybody to that platform.
No though being invited by the students in enough numbers to warrant being allowed to speak would entitle them to use said platform.
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