The Future of Star Wars

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I think making the sequel trilogy "not the real Star Wars" will just hurt all the Rey and Finn toys Disney will undoubtedly want to sell so I can't see them doing that
 

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I want the words Last Jedi to actually mean something

Jedis are the worst. There are far more interesting things Star Wars can do

Also, get rid of all the lineage nonsense. It was a stupid retcon in Empire and they keep pretending it's important but it just drags down movie after movie
 

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That "rumor" to me sounds like the pathetic mewlings of the man-baby "Rey is such a marysue" crowd as opposed to something that Disney would actually do. The tangled mess of continuity in the EU wasn't anywhere near what DC's was before they launched Crisis and Disney canned the EU anyway. There just isn't any reason for them to fire off a Flashpoint with so little actually IN canon at the moment.

What to do with the property? Well if I were in charge...

#1: Make "Squadrons" freaking awesome. It needs to be the "TIE Fighter" of this upcoming gaming generation. I would be less than HALF the Star Wars fan I am today without X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and Alliance. And the best they've managed since are the KotOR games, which were set in a completely different ERA.

#2: Go small. Small screen, a few novels, maybe a comics series or two. No need to fire off another "summer blockbuster" any time soon, maybe not for years. The money has been made after the $4 billion purchase... just go small for a while to build interest and more importantly SEE WHAT IS WORKING. If a show, or game, or comic, or novel is doing well... THAT's where you go with the next big movie. Not overtly, but something that doesn't seem related until a big reveal at the end with a tie in to the popular thing... that sets the sequel hook.

#3: And for God's sake, DON'T listen to the fans. Ever. Find out what the fans are clamoring for... don't do that thing. This seems to contradict #2... but it doesn't. Judge what is working by sales numbers, online engagement, numbers and statistics only. Number of posts rather than the content of those posts. See what the fanbase is talking about, but COMPLETELY IGNORE what they are specifically saying and do something good instead.
 
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Eh, every so often they blather on about balance or whatever. They could have that mean something.

Suppose you need the Jedi and the Sith to co-exist, and they have to learn to not kill each other. Cause the Dark Side is in all of us and we can't just pretend it's not or something.

This would clash with the overly simple morality of the originals, though.
 

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My understanding of the balance in Star Wars is that it's a "with great power comes great responsibility" deal. The Force gives you access to great power, but then you have to use that power to protect people and serve the greater good, rather than for your own benefit. The Jedi understand this and are willing to make the necessary sacrifices (personal ambition, families and so on), so they are balanced. The Sith use the Force but won't give anything up in return, so they are unbalanced and go all monster face.
 

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My understanding of the balance in Star Wars is that it's a "with great power comes great responsibility" deal. The Force gives you access to great power, but then you have to use that power to protect people and serve the greater good, rather than for your own benefit. The Jedi understand this and are willing to make the necessary sacrifices (personal ambition, families and so on), so they are balanced. The Sith use the Force but won't give anything up in return, so they are unbalanced and go all monster face.
Oh. Well, that makes more sense, only it's really obvious and boring and pointless, in that the Jedi were all about doing that without having to tell everyone they were.
 

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You don't know what you started.

To start, let me bring up this idea.

As much as I love the Jedi, I want the Jedi tested. Wormhole these people. Make the galaxy and the ideals they treasure to be an impossible Goal for now.

Put them in a situation where they are only a few, no more than 7. Put them in a situation where they could deal with an enemy, of course, but where they do not have the constant vigilance of the Jedi Council behind them. Let them see how their morals would stack up against complete freedom.

I want to watch people gradually break from ideals or strengthen with them. I want that internal conflict that will cause them to fight against pretty much the only family they have for hundreds of thousands of light years.
If you'll permit me to springboard?

Take your handful of Jedi, have them largely unaware of each other's existence. Each one is forced to live in a world that's well below the tech level they're accustomed to (spaceflight exists, but travel times and communication are such a galaxy-spanning republic/empire is not really feasible), and blaster/plasma tech is at best in its infancy. Our focal character(s) are initially forced to adapt, including a decision on what their role is now that they may well be the only survivors with any real knowledge of the Force. However they decide to adapt, and whatever the struggles they face, inevitably (let's say...end of the first story arc) word will reach them about another world where similar "magic" has started appearing. With hope rekindled that they maybe aren't as alone as they feared, they set off to find a kindred spirit...only to inevitably discover in the next installment that their cohorts took a bit of a different path than they did. Cue conflicts between ideals and egos and grab the popcorn.
 

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At the moment there's a rumour making the rounds stating that Disney could retcon the sequel trilogy out of Star Wars canon. It would be an alternative timeline or something. Apparently the concept of alternate timelines was established in the Star Wars Rebels TV show.

It seems like a pretty ridiculous idea and I don't think it's at all likely to happen, but the rumour did get me thinking about the future of the Star Wars franchise.
I would prefer it if we just take our lumps at this point and continue on. The Sequel Trilogy had two good movies with the best setup possible and then the third blew it at the last possible second in every way it possibly could have when it could have been pure gold with hardly any effort. But, whatever, let's just accept it like the "they did something REALLY stupid" moments everything has (comic aficionados I think coined the term "Dork Age" in response to moments like Rise of Skywalker) and move on from here.

There's two things in particular I would like to see.

1. A Noir style private eye type show set in the Star Wars universe. It would be a prime opportunity to show in depth what actually living in the Star Wars universe is like and in particular really gets into the underworld. I don't think there's really much that examines that sort of thing in depth, glimpses sure, but not a real focus of things.

2. A REAL third option presented for Force Users. In fact, to hell with being so Binary. Do what the Sequel Trilogy really needed to do most and present a real possibility for a spectrum. Have Force Users that are genuine paragons of good without Jedi training, have Force Users that are total psychotic madmen without being trained by either Jedi or Sith. In fact, maybe even have somebody raised by a Sith and become a really good person in spite of that and being able to shoot lightning from their hands.

The most important thing here is to present a true option that opens things up on morality in Star Wars in general. Don't present say a Grey Jedi Order that practices balance between the Light and Dark Sides and then have it turn out they secretly ritualistically eat babies or have them wiped out or anything else to invalidate the possibility. Definitively show that "Emotionless self sacrificing champions of the galaxy" and "Power Hungry Warmongering Tyrants" is not the only way to go. Create the basis for a spectrum betwen good and evil and the stories of Star Wars can finally have the room they've sorely needed to evolve and thrive. Also before anyone brings it up, Force Users who just sit there and do nothing aren't not Grey Force Users. i.e. The Bendu in Rebels for instance claims to be between the Light and Dark but just spends millennia doing nothing. He's not, he's just apathetic. The only thing that counts are Grey Force Users that actively engage with the galaxy and yet don't let their morality waver much if at all one way or the other.

Apathy is Death.
 

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Imagine being so assblasted over the new trilogy that you hope the plot point created solely as an excuse for the creator's pet character to survive the impossible is expanded upon rather than thrown in the garbage where it belongs.

The absolute state of Star Wars manchildren.

I will say, however, that this is Star Wars we are talking about, so if they go with something this foolish, it's just business as usual.
 

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Give it back to Lucas, either:

A) He actually make a good movie/trilogy, which would be the ultimate redemption story

B) He fuck it up and we get another trilogy worth of meme.

Win-win

I'd like something a bit more along the line of Mandalorian as far as Jedi/Sith are concern, they'd be this mystic presence that would be known but that no one would really understand. Like, imagine if hardcore jewish people really had divine power, but screw you, you can't get into the club, also the club is really weird. So most of the movie would follow regular people but once in awhile a Jedi/Sith would pass by, either as good or bad guys, and things would just suddenly go crazy. Like for example most of the action sequence would be grounded, with the protagonist having to take cover and dealing with regular threat. And then out of nowhere some guy just walk into the fight and just start deflecting bullet with his sword and throwing people around with his mind, even tank/droid aren't that much of a threat to them. I think it would make jedi/sith something special again which would help the story feel more magical.

That or just freaking make Kotor into a movie already, dark version plz.
 

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Mate, it's all about the strenuously linked merch...its only ever been about the strenuously linked merch!


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Mate, it's all about the strenuously linked merch...its only ever been about the strenuously linked merch!


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Oh, but Star Wars merch can get worse. Behold...
I swear it's not an impossibly embarrasing sex toy. No. It's a lollipop, because frenching Jar Jar in public is such a better idea.
 
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Oh, but Star Wars merch can get worse. Behold...
I swear it's not an impossibly embarrasing sex toy. No. It's a lollipop, because frenching Jar Jar in public is such a better idea.
Oh dear. I want one as a fan, as some sort of perverse FU to those that I am angry with for that had the power to make great Star Wars movies but did not. Oh well. There is Fallen Jedi gaming for now.
 

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Yeah, that's not going to happen. The only reason why some of his movies were good was because of editors turning an absolute shambles into something good.
Exactly. George Lucas was little more than a credit grabbing hack whose contributions to the Original Trilogy and thus the actual creation of Star Wars were minimal at best, and yet he's treated as the creator of Star Wars. You could count on 1 hand the number of actual contributions he had to anything in the Original Trilogy that weren't tossed out and replaced in the actual finished product. The Ewoks were probably the most significant contribution GL made and it was probably the only even slightly hated thing in the entirety of the Original Trilogy.

The Prequel Trilogy is what we get when George Lucas gets near absolute reign of Star Wars due to this undeserved fame and there's nobody around with the clout to say "NO! Bad Lucas! Bad idea!" like there was in the Original Trilogy.
 
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Oh, but Star Wars merch can get worse. Behold...
I swear it's not an impossibly embarrasing sex toy. No. It's a lollipop, because frenching Jar Jar in public is such a better idea.
I want to ask why but I don't think I want to know the answer.

I do know that whoever designed that has some explaining to do and likely needs to be kept away from children. Like 50 feet at all times.
 
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Oh, but Star Wars merch can get worse. Behold...
I swear it's not an impossibly embarrasing sex toy. No. It's a lollipop, because frenching Jar Jar in public is such a better idea.
Oh my! I cannot believe for one second that has not been used for sexual deviancy, nor that the inventor hadn't at least considered the implications. Most importantly though, how well did it sell?