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After making that statement, Chad Wolf then went back to kicking a small orphan for fun.
 

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You're wrong. NPR and other mainstream news and opinion sources are not 'leftist' nor populated by 'the left'. MeansTV is left. SecularTalk is left. Majority Report is left. MSNBC, NPR, etc. are centrist to liberal.

Which makes sense because they're funded by the rich or expected to be 'neutral' between the two major parties, neither of which are "the left".
 

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You're wrong. NPR and other mainstream news and opinion sources are not 'leftist' nor populated by 'the left'. MeansTV is left. SecularTalk is left. Majority Report is left. MSNBC, NPR, etc. are centrist to liberal.

Which makes sense because they're funded by the rich or expected to be 'neutral' between the two major parties, neither of which are "the left".
Majority report is at best centre left
Secular Talk... doesn't have well thought arguments and relies on emotions. More left than Sam but still centre left. Even Michael Brooks was at best the middle of the left
 

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Majority report is at best centre left
Secular Talk... doesn't have well thought arguments and relies on emotions. More left than Sam but still centre left. Even Michael Brooks was at best the middle of the left
They are all way to the left of MSNBC and NPR.
 

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Which makes sense because they're funded by the rich or expected to be 'neutral' between the two major parties, neither of which are "the left".
The post you quoted earlier explicitly acknowledged NPR tries to be neutral. My point is that they fail because they don't understand what they don't understand. When they talk to someone spouting marxist nonsense, they understand completely. When they talk to a Republican expressing liberal values, they get lost trying to figure out how the Republican is actually secretly only talking about wealthy white people. That's not liberal bias. They aren't liberals.
 

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Majority report is at best centre left
Secular Talk... doesn't have well thought arguments and relies on emotions. More left than Sam but still centre left. Even Michael Brooks was at best the middle of the left
Wait, Michael Brooks was one of the socialists on the Majority Report, how is he center left?
 

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Wait, Michael Brooks was one of the socialists on the Majority Report, how is he center left?
Middle of Left, as opposed to and trying to distinguish from the centre but slight to the left of Seder. IDK what you'd call it. He certainly isnt as extreme as many other people. He isnt even the most extreme socialist
 

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The post you quoted earlier explicitly acknowledged NPR tries to be neutral. My point is that they fail because they don't understand what they don't understand.
Personally they're also liberal, not left. You can claim they don't typically understand conservative arguments, which is fine, since most people don't (not least conservatives themselves).

When they talk to someone spouting marxist nonsense, they understand completely.
This is where it would be great for you to cite an example.

When they talk to a Republican expressing liberal values, they get lost trying to figure out how the Republican is actually secretly only talking about wealthy white people. That's not liberal bias. They aren't liberals.
This is where it would be great for you to cite an example.

Do you even actually listen to NPR or are you just saying so to try to make a point about it?
 

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Middle of Left, as opposed to and trying to distinguish from the centre but slight to the left of Seder. IDK what you'd call it. He certainly isnt as extreme as many other people. He isnt even the most extreme socialist
Oh holy crap, I wonder if the right has this many levels whatever this is.
 

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This is where it would be great for you to cite an example.
It's logistically annoying to try and cite a radio program from an unknown date and time, not really worth my time and effort. Based on the total irrelevance of your link earlier, I suspect you agree.
 

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It's logistically annoying to try and cite a radio program from an unknown date and time, not really worth my time and effort. Based on the total irrelevance of your link earlier, I suspect you agree.
Is there any "Marxist nonsense" on https://www.npr.org/ at all? Please point it out.
 

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Oh holy crap, I wonder if the right has this many levels whatever this is.
I'd say they undoubtedly do. I think I remember an instance of a right wing pundit saying she didn't think the government had any mandate to decide that woman couldn't have abortions. You'd think the alignment that claimed to believe in minimising government interference would be a-okay with that...but instead she found herself fired for not toeing the right party line
 
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Is there any "Marxist nonsense" on https://www.npr.org/ at all? Please point it out.
One of the best places to find Marxist influence in the UK is... the Conservative government.

Ex-Revolutionary Communist Party member Munira Mirza is a senior policy advisor at No. 10. Key RCP member Clare Fox ended up a leading Brexiter and has just been nominated for a peerage by Boris Johnson. Founder of the RCP's offshoot website "Spiked", Mick Hume, is a regular for the Murdoch press. Funny old world.
 
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Oh holy crap, I wonder if the right has this many levels whatever this is.
There are probably this many levels to Alt-right, let alone conservatives in general
I remember noting that there are quite a variety of Libertarians as well. The only one really name is Paternal Libertarians who get concerned about making good choices for society as well as being Libertarians. For example, instead of Opt In for organ donors, it would be Opt Out

Then you have the spectrum between Authoritarism and Anarchism layered on all this
 
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I'd say they undoubtedly do. I think I remember an instance of a right wing pundit saying she didn't think the government had any mandate to decide that woman couldn't have abortions. You'd think the alignment that claimed to believe in minimising government interference would be a-okay with that...but instead she found herself fired for not toeing the right party line
This anti-abortion crusade was almost non-existent even in evangelicals until 5 years after Roe v Wade. Even then, it wasnt really popular til Limbaugh made it his thing as a wedge issue to push moderate Republicans out of the party. In 73, Conservative used to be pro-choice (with certain provisions.) It doesnt suprise me that some still held their ground against the attacks by their colleagues
 

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There are probably this many levels to Alt-right, let alone conservatives in general
I remember noting that there are quite a variety of Libertarians as well. The only one really name is Paternal Libertarians who get concerned about making good choices for society as well as being Libertarians. For example, instead of Opt In for organ donors, it would be Opt Out

Then you have the spectrum between Authoritarism and Anarchism layered on all this
Oh yeah, there are a ton of different libertarians since its a really naive political philosophy so each one tends to have their own views about how it would not actually work, but work.
 

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I'd say they undoubtedly do. I think I remember an instance of a right wing pundit saying she didn't think the government had any mandate to decide that woman couldn't have abortions. You'd think the alignment that claimed to believe in minimising government interference would be a-okay with that...but instead she found herself fired for not toeing the right party line
The american right tends to be really locked in with those evengelicals who are anti-abortion no matter what.
 

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I'd say they undoubtedly do. I think I remember an instance of a right wing pundit saying she didn't think the government had any mandate to decide that woman couldn't have abortions. You'd think the alignment that claimed to believe in minimising government interference would be a-okay with that...but instead she found herself fired for not toeing the right party line
I've been meaning for years to have a thread discussing the various often-overlapping factions of the conservative movement (it's just generally fascinating how they've managed to wrangle so many competing and sometimes antithetical ideological components into a semi-cohesive political movement). But factionalization is a major thing, particularly when libertarians clash with social conservatives and defense (chicken)hawks. And even within those factions there's splintering.
 

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(it's just generally fascinating how they've managed to wrangle so many competing and sometimes antithetical ideological components into a semi-cohesive political movement).
Seems the biggest factor here is that they actually try to represent their various constituencies rather than leaning on "it could be worse".