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Hannibal, but properly this time. Wowsies. Took me ages to get around to the last 2 seasons but am glad finally did. Cerebral as fuck, intimately woven focus on tiny yet talented cast, often shocking in ways that I never expected. Only got last 2 episodes to go, so it may all fall apart, though it has more than earnt enough trust. Kudos for the purposefully creepy sex scenes not feeling out of tone, wiith narrative reasoning while not going for cheap titillation either.
 

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Got the free week HBO trial just to watch this:
I have 2 more episodes to go.

Acted in a very credible manner. Much of it rings true as far as I know of people caring for debilitated family members. One thing stretching credibility is that the story keeps shoveling enough @^#$ onto this one character to the point that you know if this was real, the guy would be catatonic with his brain trying to shut it all out. 8/10.

EDIT: Just finished it. Terrific wrap up. If you watch, episode 6 is a complete show, in spite of it opening without the option to skip the intro that might fool you into thinking it a 15 min. episode.

Now, I am tasked by the wife to find another great, slice of life type of drama. I am flumoxed. I think there is a show called "a million little things" but she thinks it will be too similar to "This is Us" so... still looking. Anyone like and can recommend that sort of thing?
 
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Dark Matter: Season 2 (4/5)

So I got round to watching season 2 of Dark Matter. If you want the TL, DR version, it's good, but not as good as the prior season. If you want the non-TL, DR version, keep reading.

Right, now that I've lost 90% of people, plus a further 9% asking "what the hell is Dark Matter?", let's treat the 1% to a season overview. The main thing I noticed from this season when compared to the prior is that it has better worldbuilding, while having weaker plotting. Season 1, if you recall my review from the old site, has sparse worldbuilding, but solid plotting, or at least, a more solid group of characters. The charm of season 1 was seeing this group of dysfunctional characters learn to work together, and learn about their old lives pre-memory wipe. Season 2, on the other hand, has a crew that mostly knows themselves as a result of season 1. I say mostly, because there is character development, but character by itself can't carry the season. Ergo, season 2 goes the worldbuilding direction - this isn't from me, it's from the writers themselves, who according to commentary, wanted more worldbuilding in this season. All well and good, but the plotting doesn't work as much.

Before I get to that though, I'm actually going to focus on the characters. Season 2 doesn't mess around, and makes it clear that no-one is truly safe. We see this at the end of the very first episode, where One is brutally murdered by Corso. I thought for a moment that it was a fake out, that they wouldn't kill one of their leads so flippantly, but no, he's dead, and he doesn't come back. Now, One was never my favourite character on the show, but even so, yikes. This actually spreads into the rest of the crew as well, albeit with mixed results. Four regains his memories and betrays the crew. Six, despite running away from his officer past, gets into potentially anarchist territory (it's kind of eerie, watching this now, in the context of people calling for outright abolition of the police). The weird thing (or maybe not so weird, given how tropes work) is that by the end of the season, Two and Three are probably the most moral members of the crew, whereas before the mind wipe, they were the most amoral. And Five is still, well, Five, I guess. But speaking of character material, while there is some good stuff, there's also iffy stuff. For instance, there's three new characters who join the crew at the start of the season. I was expecting a true paradigm shift, like, we've lost One, but get these three new characters to shake things up. Well, of those three, one leaves early on, outed as a double agent. Devon, taking on the role of medic, is murdered at the end of an episode and left to bleed out, the crew thinking he's jumped ship. And the third, Nyx, she gets the most screentime, but always feels separate from the main cast. And of course, the android is still the android, and therefore fun, but the whole "android becoming human, developing emotions, etc." is an old trope. It's a trope that's executed decently, but still, it's tropish. Something that comes through from this however, is a sense of nihilism. I may be reading too much into this, but it feels like the writers have a very bleak view on the human condition.

Characters aside, there's the issue of plotting. The plot of season is pretty paper thin. Now, the overall plot of season 1 was thin as well, but that worked, because the crew were living day to day, trying to survive after losing their memories. Season 2 however, sets up plot threads that don't really go anywhere. Early on, the crew have to escape a prison. That's sorted in two episodes. Then, there's the vague idea of taking down the corporations (FYI, I was having a lot of flashbacks to Continuum in this season, and I don't really mean that in a good way). Except that doesn't really go anywhere. Then they get the blink drive, which gets them into an alternate reality - an episode that's wasted because their alternate selves aren't revelations, we've already seen the Raza crew as their 'bad' selves in flashbacks, and in season 2 itself, where it does the concept better. Then the season ends with them helping Four get his throne back, and then trying to prevent a bombing, and failing, presumably starting the corporate war that occurred in the alternate reality. It's messy. It's also iffy, because they spend a lot of time working with one corporation which is, I dunno, better than the others? Yeah, Trauffault is a fun character, but even so, feels off.

There's also how episodes are structured, how they feel off at times. For instance, one episode has Three come back to the ship possessed by some kind of squid creature (it's actually better than it sounds). The way the episode goes, I thought that this would be resolved in the next episode. But no, it's resolved in this episode, and the pacing is so off, it's like they realized they hadn't written enough for this episode, so they had to throw this in to make up the running time. Simultaniously, towards the end, it feels like entire segments of plot are missing. Four gets his memories back, then the episode cuts to the next one where the crew is already fine with this. He gets his throne back at the end of the episode. Then, the next one, he meets the crew again after a period of time, wanting the blink drive, despite the fact that he could have taken it at the end of the last episode, after expressing his desire to get it in said episode. I don't know what happened with the writing process, but I suspect that something DID happen, and it dragged down the quality as a result.

That said, let's get into the good stuff, and that's worldbuilding. While it's nothing special, it is an improvement over season 1. Now, if you recall my review of season 1, you might recall that I acknowledged the worldbuilding issue, but also gave the show more credit than most. If you pay attention, you can piece stuff together. That said, it's still improved here. There's a sense of how galactic society (or societies) operate, and how messed up things really are if you pay attention. Like, this isn't some deep commentary on the human condition (it really, really isn't, even if it is nihilistic), but the introduction of various factions and all that? Yeah, it works.

So, at the end of the day, Dark Matter is still good. I'd still reccomend it. But it is a step down from the prior season.
 

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Case File No 221: Kabukicho (7/10)

I'm coming up on the end of watching "Case File No 221: Kabukicho." And so far I'm enjoying it. A very strange take on the Sherlock Holmes story and I'm enjoying it. They've put a spin on each of the classic characters, some more entertaining than others. But overall it is an interesting look at the characters. I'd like to see them make each episode more of a whodunit type mystery (or at least a better written one) but it is entertaining enough to satisfy.
 

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The Swamp Thing TV series, famously cancelled after the first episode.

I really enjoyed it. Good cast, nice sets, great production values, nice horror vibe. A real shame it was cancelled.

I also watched the rest of the first season of Snowpiercer. The last couple of episodes fell a bit flat for me.
 

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The Swamp Thing TV series, famously cancelled after the first episode.

I really enjoyed it. Good cast, nice sets, great production values, nice horror vibe. A real shame it was cancelled.

I also watched the rest of the first season of Snowpiercer. The last couple of episodes fell a bit flat for me.
Holy shit, I completely forgot about Swamp Thing!!! They tried a reboot last year?!? The '80s one was so awful, I"m not sure if I could stomach a reboot. Also, Toxic Avenger was a thing.
 

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Holy shit, I completely forgot about Swamp Thing!!! They tried a reboot last year?!? The '80s one was so awful, I"m not sure if I could stomach a reboot. Also, Toxic Avenger was a thing.
It's worth a watch. There's a fairly serious gothic horror vibe, no jokes, laughs, quips or one liners like other superhero shows. Some of the performances are a bit campy, but it suits the tone and atmosphere.
 

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Goku: Midnight Eye. An entertaining, schlocky, male-power fantasy that takes place in the far off future.......of 2014! Can you tell it's an anime from the 80s?! This two episode OVA is based off a manga that ran for two years.The manga was created by Buchi Terasawa (Space Adventure Cobra), while Yoshiaki Kawajiri directed the anime adaption. The same guy who did Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Ninja Scroll, and Cyber City. Remember the film Upgrade? Think of it as that, but way over-the-top and full of anime cheese. The title character named Goku, gets a computer in his left eye after an assassination attempt. How he gets, who does the operation/rescue for him, or why is never explained or found out in the OVA. Apparently, the manga answers those questions. Honestly, it does not bother me in the slightest, because this OVA is so goddamned silly by playing it straight. He can basically hack in to any computer, vehicle, or security, because everything is hooked online. I don't know what else to say, except that if you want an hour and forty minutes of entertainment, you got it. I let Bennett described the rest.

 
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It's worth a watch. There's a fairly serious gothic horror vibe, no jokes, laughs, quips or one liners like other superhero shows. Some of the performances are a bit campy, but it suits the tone and atmosphere.
I really want to watch it, but I don't want to really enjoy it knowing that we'll never get a second season :(
 

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About half way through The Last Dance documentary that primarily revolves around the Bulls last championship season, but more specifically MJ. It’s really interesting to hear a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, and it also does a good job examining a wide variety of angles and perspectives over the course of not just his career, but the people around him. It’s almost like a flashback to that era, but having a door unlocked to all the stuff you never knew about.

One thing so far that I found particularly poignant and impressive is how unapologetic Jordan is even as he reflects on the past. For instance, at the height of his dominance and popularity, he got backlash for not publicly endorsing a black Democratic political figure who was running for office against an old racist white dude. The quote he used was, “Republicans buy sneakers too.” (apparently in jest).

Now that might sound at the very least cold, childish, selfish and greedy in a way, and even former president Barack Obama (yup, he’s one of several non sports figures interviewed) had critical things to say on it about him still trying to figure out how to “manage his image” and how to live up to it. There are also a ton of people making their own comments about it and what Jordan had to say now about that issue, but I won’t criticize his logic. Besides mentioning that he never considered himself an activist and only being interested in focusing on his craft, he got more specific and said in a matter of fact tone especially at the end,

”It’s never going to be enough for everybody. I know that, I realize that. Because everybody has a preconceived idea in terms of what they think I should do or what I shouldn’t do. The way I go about my life is I set examples. And if it inspires you, great. You know, I will continue to do that. If it doesn’t, then maybe I’m not the person you should be following.”

Far too often in our pop culture we seem to think every famous figure - especially entertainers - needs to bend and twist their life to the will of public imagery and be a beacon of “all that is well and just” or whatever. It’s almost demanded *for the childrens’ sake* especially. But that is a lot of bs, and shows how flawed and sold out our reasoning has gotten.

Parents and educators are the ones who need to be role models. Same goes for our elected officials. Basketball players on the other hand, are under no obligation in that regard, and shouldn’t be held to it. It’s more about simply being decent people in the first place and the rest will more readily fall into place.
 
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Goku: Midnight Eye. An entertaining, schlocky, male-power fantasy that takes place in the far off future.......of 2014! Can you tell it's an anime from the 80s?! This two episode OVA is based off a manga that ran for two years.The manga was created by Buchi Terasawa (Space Adventure Cobra), while Yoshiaki Kawajiri directed the anime adaption. The same guy who did Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Ninja Scroll, and Cyber City. Remember the film Upgrade? Think of it as that, but way over-the-top and full of anime cheese. The title character named Goku, gets a computer in his left eye after an assassination attempt. How he gets, who does the operation/rescue for him, or why is never explained or found out in the OVA. Apparently, the manga answers those questions. Honestly, it does not bother me in the slightest, because this OVA is so goddamned silly by playing it straight. He can basically hack in to any computer, vehicle, or security, because everything is hooked online. I don't know what else to say, except that if you want an hour and forty minutes of entertainment, you got it. I let Bennett described the rest.

I remember this, it was a rather tasty slice of cyberpunk
 

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Star Trek: TNG S 2 and 3

Well, all I'm going to say for season 2 is that its better than season 1. They actually wrote stories for some episodes this time, rather than just a series of events. Probably the best parts were the Romulan centred stories

Season 3 was definitely better. They regularly have stories that are interesting. But,... its still off. Taking an example of Transfiguration, which is similar to the story in Babylon 5 Mind War. Take into account that its four years later, so B5 can be influenced and iterate on the idea. Someone is going trough a metamorphosis to a higher being. But in TNG, the person chasing them doesn't show up until the end, deflating any sense of tension. Ironheart is made way more dangerous seeming with a quarter of the budget. Bester is an incredible villain that you don't have any idea will turn up again later. And you understand why he is worried because there is clear evidence of failure on Ironheart's behalf and the overall development of the PsiCops in the first place. Story B seems throw away but certainly is better than Tin Man, another TNG it betters.

All in all, a lot of TNG episode just lack the fleshing out it needs to make a really good show.

That being said, I'll point out where I was being prejudice against it for all these years. There is some character growth (too many times its deleted by the end of the episode, so...). There is certainly more connective tissue between episode than I remember and I have just finished 'The Best of Both Worlds Pt3' also know as Family which was a good resolution to the actual 2 parter. And.. that brings me to that 2 parter. First Contact did it significantly better. It was pretty lacklustre.

All in all, I'll keep going. Its not as bad as I remember but also not as good.
 

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Watched the first episode of Modern Love on Amazon. Essentially the show is an anthology of 30 minute romcoms based on one of those Sex and the City style NCY daily colums offering banal takes inspired by white people problems. Like how episode one is about a beautiful young woman who discovers that the doorman to her Upper East Side crib is more than just a doorman - he's also a babysitter to her fatherless child and more than happy to get patronized for the rest of his life by either. How cute.
 

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Season 2 of "The Umbrella Academy" dropped and the 1st episode was fantastic. 10/10. I felt like we got to see the team as has been hinted at since forever but this time for real.
 

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I took a break from TNG. Got to half way through season 4. It’s been fine, but hasn’t matched the really good episodes of the first half of season 3

Umbrella Academy S2. I’m aware Gofias just started so...

Well, the girls got partners and the boys got squat. Make sense for 5 doesn’t die to timing reasons but they dropped Luther’s storyline like a rock. I didn’t care about him and Allison’s relationship in S1. Don’t care for it here either. Klaus’ cult didnt do much either. Diego did get a partner but.. you know. His storyline was probably the best

Why did the put Elliot in this at all? It doesn’t feel good when a character is made to die only. The 100 operatives showing up at the end was pointless too. Even AJ. Just there to die

it’s sounds like I’m being harsh but it was generally good.

I thought the writing was more consistent on this one but I don’t feel it reached the heights of season 1. Overall 8/10
 
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Finished Shaman King. Wow, that show was kind of a mess. Spoilers.

I get the feeling that the writer didn't really know how he wanted the story to go. The main plot is focused on a fighting tournament for most of the runtime until it's just kind of dropped when the writer gets bored of it. And after the big bad is defeated through the power of friendship (natch) the show just ends and all the characters immediately fall back into the place they were at the beginning having been largely unchanged by the events of the last 64 episodes.

The show is about spirits, ostensibly, but death and the afterlife are surprisingly barely even touched upon. I don't really get it. Everybody in the cast can see ghosts, and ghosts can remain in the real world after death, and many shamans die over the course of the show, but we never, ever see the ghost of a shaman remain after being killed. Talk about wasted opportunity. It was essentially trying to be Dragon Ball, but with a new coat of paint. It was especially funny when battle powers were introduced for all of 2 episodes so Hao could do the Freeza thing where they announce that his battle power is OVER ONE MILLION, for basically no reason at all. I hated battle powers in Dragon Ball, but they were so token here it was just comical.

There were essentially no character arcs or development in the show. People are evil until Yoh fights them and then they turn good for no reason. That is the extent of any growth we see over the course of the show. I have a bit to say about a couple individual characters in particular, though:

Lyzerg. The way that the other characters react to Lyzerg makes no sense whatsoever. He's introduced as a douche who's goal is to find strong allies to fight Hao who tests his potential allies by beating them up. He ends up with the Yoh gang, purely by the chance of running into them first. However when he later abandons Yoh for the X-Laws, a group of powerful shaman who's sole goal is defeating Hao, everybody in Yoh's group acts like this is some grand betrayal of his character and abandonment of Lyzerg's true self, or whatever. Ummm, what? Was anybody actually paying attention to Lyzerg? The X-Laws are exactly what Lyzerg was looking for to begin with and are, in fact, a far better fit both in ideology and personality for him than Yoh's group. Also he was only with Yoh for, what, a week? And yet Ryu is crying like he's lost his lifelong best friend.

Speaking of Ryu, generally I like him but he's got a couple of traits that severely raise eyebrows. First, what is his hair even made of? Plastercine would be my guess. Second, as the groups horndog he knows no bounds. It's kind of shocking really. He constantly makes advances to anybody with a pulse, including Lyzerg and Milly, a girl who looks to be about 7. Also, causing my eyebrows to raise up through my hairline, was the decision to distinctly draw another loli character's (Jeanne's) nipples visible through her night shirt. Stuff like that makes me glad I mostly watch anime alone.

Hao, as a villain was pretty disappointing. He's an ancient and powerful shaman and monk, surely with a deep understanding of life and spirits that allows him to harness such power. He seems to handle everything with an unbreakable calm and has a complex plan that surely goes beyond mortal comprehension. Except no. His problem is he just doesn't understand friendship. Gag me.

Manta. Poor Manta. Such a pathetic character. He's the size of a 5 year old despite being in high school and is utterly useless to the plot. His only role is to stand on the sidelines and shout "Yoh!" constantly. He has no abilities of any use except for 2 minutes of shaman powers. His personality is non-existent, and he has no growth or development. You could cut him entirely from the show and never notice a difference. He's the embodiment of one of the worst character archetype in shonen and I feel bad for him because of it.

All in all, I enjoyed parts of the show. I had some fun watching the silly lighthearted antics on screen, but there was absolutely no depth to any of it. Every part has been done better by other shows, and its positive portrayals of abusive relationships is just gross.
 
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People are evil until Yoh fights them and then they turn good for no reason. That is the extent of any growth we see over the course of the show. I have a bit to say about a couple individual characters in particular, though:
Ren Tao's development is handled a bit better in the manga, but it's about the same. I like his development the most, even though I knew he would be on the good guy's side when I was 14.

Lyzerg. The way that the other characters react to Lyzerg makes no sense whatsoever. He's introduced as a douche who's goal is to find strong allies to fight Hao who tests his potential allies by beating them up. He ends up with the Yoh gang, purely by the chance of running into them first. However when he later abandons Yoh for the X-Laws, a group of powerful shaman who's sole goal is defeating Hao, everybody in Yoh's group acts like this is some grand betrayal of his character and abandonment of Lyzerg's true self, or whatever. Ummm, what? Was anybody actually paying attention to Lyzerg? The X-Laws are exactly what Lyzerg was looking for to begin with and are, in fact, a far better fit both in ideology and personality for him than Yoh's group. Also he was only with Yoh for, what, a week? And yet Ryu is crying like he's lost his lifelong best friend.
Once again, the manga definitely handles this and Lyserg better. He never betrays or abandons Morphine. Do note that the manga was incomplete at the time, so it was one of those cases where they could not jump ahead of the manga and had to do their own thing. The writer manga told the writers of the anime to do whatever they want. That said, manga has plenty of other issues...

Speaking of Ryu, generally I like him but he's got a couple of traits that severely raise eyebrows. First, what is his hair even made of? Plastercine would be my guess. Second, as the groups horndog he knows no bounds. It's kind of shocking really. He constantly makes advances to anybody with a pulse, including Lyzerg and Milly, a girl who looks to be about 7. Also, causing my eyebrows to raise up through my hairline, was the decision to distinctly draw another loli character's (Jeanne's) nipples visible through her night shirt. Stuff like that makes me glad I mostly watch anime alone.
Even back then, I knew that something was not settling right. Even though Ryu does not look like it, he's actually 17. And for reason they made him Mexican and called him Rio in the 4Kids dub. Honestly, I never noticed the visible nipples on Jeanne. So that is somewhat new to me, because the manga had a little bit of it, for like one or two minor panels. Ren and Jeanne become a couple out of nowhere and get married in the manga. The author forced a pairing on characters that barely talked with each other, let alone did much interacting.

Hao, as a villain was pretty disappointing. He's an ancient and powerful shaman and monk, surely with a deep understanding of life and spirits that allows him to harness such power. He seems to handle everything with an unbreakable calm and has a complex plan that surely goes beyond mortal comprehension. Except no. His problem is he just doesn't understand friendship. Gag me.
The manga is ever worse .He's a karma houdini and gets to become God, but does not destroy humanity to prove a "point" about humans. What's worse he went evil to gaining mind reading powers from a demon spirit that was his first friend. A friend he gained after some false monk burned down Hao's house with his mother killed in the fire. The dick became a villain because he nothing more than a toddler playing dress up crying for his god damn mommy. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. The manga has a terrible habit as treating humanity (non-powered humans) like dogshit. Humanity is either impotent, evil, incompetent, or stupid. While Shamans are either good or "misunderstood", which is very hypocritical and misanthropic of the creator. As far I am concerned, the author and Hao can go fuck themselves and each other. When you get down to it, Hao is just another weak copy of Sephrioth with brown hair. Or a clone of characters like Knives from Trigun.

Manta. Poor Manta. Such a pathetic character. He's the size of a 5 year old despite being in high school and is utterly useless to the plot. His only role is to stand on the sidelines and shout "Yoh!" constantly. He has no abilities of any use except for 2 minutes of shaman powers. His personality is non-existent, and he has no growth or development. You could cut him entirely from the show and never notice a difference. He's the embodiment of one of the worst character archetype in shonen and I feel bad for him because of it.
At least he gets Shaman powers and was implied throughout The manga version gets none of this and is even more of an audience surrogate.
All in all, I enjoyed parts of the show. I had some fun watching the silly lighthearted antics on screen, but there was absolutely no depth to any of it. Every part has been done better by other shows, and its positive portrayals of abusive relationships is just gross.
I agree to most of that, though compared to shounen shows, I Shaman King (TV, not the manga because it sucks even more) better than Naruto, Black Clover (Naruto with Wizards), Death Note, Zatch Bell, and the Buu Saga of DBZ.
the shows run. He gets none of it in the manga. Stays the same and is even more of an audience surrogate.
 
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Went against what I said I would not do and ended up getting the South Park seasons 16 to 20 set as well. Just been having too much fun rewatching the entire series this year, including later seasons that I found mediocre back then. I like the packaging. Twenty seasons of South Park are only slightly over four inches wide and all come with flipper trays instead of stacking or envelopes/sleeves.

I'm also watching Mister Bean for the first time in like twenty-three years, whose packaging is the complete opposite, four stacked DVDs. First thing I did before I started the show was rip and name all of it. I'm never touching the discs again. I wanna build a massive RAID in the near future and back up EVERYTHING.



Anyway, I'm enjoying this too. Atkinson is a good physical actor.
 
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The Orville: Season 1 (4/5)

I'm going to get one order of business out of the way - yes, the Orville is better than Star Trek: Discovery. Now let's move on.

So, having finally got round to watching this show, I'm not entirely sure how it should be categorized. Is it a Star Trek spoof? No, because it doesn't actually parody anything. Is it Star Trek fanfiction? Kind of, but it's missing some 'Trek essence,' so to speak. Is it a comedy? At times. Is it drama? At times. Is it sci-fi? Well, yes, but that's broad. A reviewer has stated that the Orville wants to be a bit of everything. If that's the case, I'd say it succeeds overall, but it's flawed in key areas. Something I'll state that despite it wearing its influences on its sleeve, you should be able to go into this regardless of your exposure to Star Trek. Kind of like, say, you can read Wheel of Time without reading Lord of the Rings, or watch Apocalypse Now without reading Heart of Darkness. Yes, the earlier work informs the latter work, but the latter work can exist on its own terms.

I'm going to start with the flaws of the series first, and most glaring of them are its pop culture references. The Orville is full of them, and taking things as writ, one can assume that there was nothing of cultural note in humanity between the early 21st century and the early 25th. Now, this is a problem that a lot of sci-fi works set in the future have to overcome. If you're referencing famous works of human history, you can either take pre-existing works for ease of reference, or make up works and have to explain them to the reader. My personal view is that it's good to have a mix of both - for instance, the last FFN work I wrote quotes Shakespeare extensively, but I also make reference to a 24th century philosopher. The Orville however, goes full into 20th/21st century references, and unlike Ready Player One, there's no in-universe justification for it. Now, references in of themselves aren't bad (e.g. Ed has a Kermit plushie on his desk), but when these references keep coming up, and aren't offset by anything, then yes, it does become irksome. Especially when one episode is 'solved' by giving aliens reality TV tapes. Sigh...

The second issue is the humour. Now, on average, I'd say the Orville hits the humour mark about 75% of the time. There were a few times when I smirked and even laughed out loud. However, there were also moments when the humour got grating. Thankfully, it's not Family Guy humour - yes, you get the occasional dirty joke (sex, shitting, etc.), but for a McFarlane work, it's reasonably tame. However, there's times when the humour is just grating, and it's especially true when characters' lives are at risk. For instance, one episode has two characters infiltrate an enemy ship where they're disguised as said enemy. One of the two keeps making jokes, even when they could potentially blow their cover. I'm all for humour as a form of coping with a dangerous situation, but this is just plain idiocy on the characters' part. And it isn't the only time something like this happens.

Those are the two main issues, so that leaves us with the bulk of the show itself. I won't do a review of each episode, but I will say that the 4/5 is an averaging out (technically it's more like 3.5), with some episodes being much better than others. A lot of these episodes are arguably "Trekky," in that the crew will encounter an issue, deal with an issue, and move onto the next issue, with all said issues being sorted within the episode itself. There's certainly string continuity (e.g. events in the previous episode will be referenced off-hand in the next one), but every episode is more or less stand alone. Sometimes it goes for social commentary, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes that social commentary succeeds, sometimes it doesn't. Again, it's far of how the Orville feels like a mix of things, in that while TNG had the mission statement of mankind being at its best, and solving things through diplomacy (and techno-babble, which the Orville is mostly free from, even if its science is very soft), Orville is imperfect people doing their jobs half the time, and being fratboys the other half.

All this aside, what the Orville does well is its character roster. While many of the characters are archtypes, and some get more development than others, all of them do get at least some development, and they're fun characters to have around. It appears I'm not in the minority when saying that Alara is my favourite, but even then, all of the characters are enjoyable. At times, irritating, such as when they're joking around and risking their survival when doing so (see Gordon and John), but still, net positives. And while I'm arguably reading too much into this, there's arguably a theme of self improvement that becomes prominent towards the end of the season. Alara has to overcome her insecurities (insecurities that manifest early on), and an entire episode is dedicated to her doing so towards the end (said episode also being pretty freaky, even if this is obstensibly space comedy). John's revealed to be much more intelligent than he lets on, and has to rise to the occasion, being promoted to head of engineering, and able to let his skills aid the ship, after trying to hide them for so long. Ed has doubts when it's revealed he only got command of the ship thanks to Kelly, but by the episode's end, accepts what everyone tells him in that he's risen to the occasion. Like, this isn't some big, season-long theme, but it's noticeable.

So, overall, I enjoyed The Orville. It's rough around the edges, but it does get better as the season progresses, and while it's a mix of things, it's a mix that does work overall. It's also a show that can exist irregardless of Star Trek, so there's that. Overall, had fun watching it.
 
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The Flash: Season 4 (3/5)

The Flash seasons seem to have got steadily worse. For me, it goes 2>1>3>4, and while 1 and 2 are pretty close in quality, 3 and 4 are in different, lower leagues. And it's kind of a shame, because there's a lot of stuff that season 4 does well. Unfortunately, it fails to stick the landing in a lot of ways. Season 3 bugged me because, among other things, it threw out the time travel rules that had been established prior, so really, it's hard to get invested in stakes when I don't know what the rules of the game are. Season 4 goes a step further and uses leaps of logic. Like, for every good idea, there's a bad idea, and I'll give you some examples.

Good Idea: Make the big bad not a speedster, unlike the prior 3 seasons. DeVoe is a different sort of villain that we haven't seen before.

Bad Idea: DeVoe isn't well executed. Every single thing in the season happens because he arranges it, even if it's insane to think that anyone could predict exactly how events would unfold. Also, the whole "technology is bad, I want to rid the world of it" is a lazy plot point that's been done to death, and this doesn't offer anything new.

Good Idea: Give DeVoe a wife, so there's a kind of mirror darkly going on between Marlize and DeVoe, and Barry and Iris.

Bad Idea: Come on Marlize, you knew your husband's plan would kill people, but, what, you choose to leave him when you realize that he's...going to kill people? Also, the anti-tech thing affects her as well, and it isn't handled much better.

Good Idea: Throwing Barry in prison that he's obliged to stay in while his name is cleared.

Bad Idea: Ending that plot point pretty quickly, where in the same universe, Barry chooses to stay in prison, playing the long game, then gets released in the same episode, undercutting the emotional gravitas.

Good Idea: Barry dealing with the fallout of lingering suspicion via his incarceration, being forced to leave CCPD, and becoming a private investigator.

Bad Idea: Never really using the PI plot point, and overcoming suspicion via Iris posting an article saying "DeVoe's a bad guy y'all, and everyone believing it because of course, as Barry's wife, she won't have a vested interest."

Good Idea: Wells having to deal with losing his intelligence and discovering the simple joys of life.

Bad Idea: He's no longer a lovable asshole then.

Good Idea: Making the season darker, in that there's quite a few metas who die, including those who don't deserve it.

Bad Idea: Because of course Dibney survives, because hey, we can't have too high a human cost (also so we can fire the actor for old tweets that are dug up down the line).

Terrible Idea: Flashtime. The entire concept. By this logic, Barry should use flashtime in every fight, and he should be unbeatable.

Hilrarious Idea: The season's feminism episode. Similar to how Arrow tried and failed to address gun control, this season tries to tackle feminism, only it's so half arsed I could swear someone in the writer's room was self-sabotaging

Neat Idea: Nora. We don't see much of her, but what we do see, I like.

I could go on here, but you probably get the gist. Season 4 is full of good ideas, but it falls flat in executing a lot of them. Something that's really apparent at this point is that when you have a speedster whose powers accomplish whatever the plot demands they accomplish, it does become noticable. In the end, nice try, but the season fails to stick the landing.
 
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