That country is so damn big the names keep repeating themselvesNot El Paso, Texas. El Paso county, Colorado.
That country is so damn big the names keep repeating themselvesNot El Paso, Texas. El Paso county, Colorado.
^This. The child, whether one feels he should have the gun or not, possessed nothing illegal; involving the police for possessing something legal in his own home was a hyperbolic reaction to the nth degree.What I could understand is a teacher saying that a toy gun is not appropriate for the "learning space", ie the stream of the virtual classroom, and ask that it be put away. Have a parent-teacher conference and school disciplinary action if the child doesn't comply (and let's be honest, 7th graders are shitheads).
Call the police, though? Like, maybe if the kid was brandishing the gun and threatening his classmates or teacher, but if its just out or in his hands, c'mon.
As far as I know, you can't buy any "real" guns with lime green accents and orange tips that purposefully denote their "not real-ness," so whatever "threat" that teacher felt merited police involvement is instantly mitigated by the facts in play. If that's not the case, my girlfriend's son is sitting on a literal arsenal of airsoft weaponry that my black ass should probably distance itself from posthaste. He's got pistols, a shotgun, a sniper rifle and those little white pellets can be found in every corner of this house.
Clearly not a NERF gun.
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I can't even understand disciplinary action for just having it when he is literally in his room. So if he was sitting in his living room doing his virtual learning and there was a samurai sword on the wall behind him he would be in trouble for that too? When kids are in their home, it's their home.What I could understand is a teacher saying that a toy gun is not appropriate for the "learning space", ie the stream of the virtual classroom, and ask that it be put away. Have a parent-teacher conference and school disciplinary action if the child doesn't comply (and let's be honest, 7th graders are shitheads).
Call the police, though? Like, maybe if the kid was brandishing the gun and threatening his classmates or teacher, but if its just out or in his hands, c'mon.
From what I understand, there is a problem with looking at the color of a gun and determining that that means it's not real as some people will deliberately spray paint their gun to make it look like a toy. Not that I believe they should have thought that the case here.^This. The child, whether one feels he should have the gun or not, possessed nothing illegal; involving the police for possessing something legal in his own home was a hyperbolic reaction to the nth degree.
As far as I know, you can't buy any "real" guns with lime green accents and orange tips that purposefully denote their "not real-ness," so whatever "threat" that teacher felt merited police involvement is instantly mitigated by the facts in play. If that's not the case, my girlfriend's son is sitting on a literal arsenal of airsoft weaponry that my black ass should probably distance itself from posthaste. He's got pistols, a shotgun, a sniper rifle and those little white pellets can be found in every corner of this house.
Danger or potential lethality of a toy gun (yes, it's a toy; it serves no purpose save for entertainment) notwithstanding, one cannot deny a clear and overt overreaction by an authority that you'd hope has nothing but a child's best interest in mind, but clearly couldn't wait to make an asteroid out of a pebble in this case.
A kid from my highschool also was blind in one eye because a cat clawed it.Got the full story from my dad. The BB bounced off his eye and caused a blind spot. Retinal detachment is what he says
Kids should neither be playing with BB guns, nor cats.A kid from my highschool also was blind in one eye because a cat clawed it.
Understood. My childhood friend was shot in the head with a BB gun; thought someone had tossed a rock and hit him, but when the wound continued to bleed, he took a trip to urgent care where they found a BB lodged in his temple. Doesn't change the fact that a dangerous toy is still a toy and NOT a "weapon" worth calling the cops and marring a child's permanent record over.Got the full story from my dad. The BB bounced off his eye and caused a blind spot. Retinal detachment is what he says
They said the teacher told the Vice Principal it was a toy gun. The Vice Principal is who overreacted. They said from the video footage he wasn't even waving it around or pointing it he just moved it. They said they charged him with having a facsimile of a gun at school. HE WAS IN HIS OWN ROOM. He wasn't charged with threatening anyone or anything like that. A FACSIMILE OF A FIREARM AT SCHOOL. So if A Parent has any sort of weapon real or fake on the wall behind where their computer sits when they do virtual learning they can be charged to? Swords and shields? Civil war weapons? Viking Axe collection? Larp or Cosplay? This is wrong on so many levels.From what I understand, there is a problem with looking at the color of a gun and determining that that means it's not real as some people will deliberately spray paint their gun to make it look like a toy. Not that I believe they should have thought that the case here.
But at any rate, what exactly was he doing with the toy gun and what kind of video footage was the teacher able to see? What did the police do when they arrived at the house anyway? This all seems like an overreaction from everyone except the police who were just doing their job.
A kid from my highschool also was blind in one eye because a cat clawed it.
If he had an anime cosplay sword on the wall in his own house he could have been charged with having a Facsimile of a weapon at school as well according to the charges.Kids should neither be playing with BB guns, nor cats.
Anime never hurts you.
You forgot the big point - the kid is black.The fuck is wrong with you two?
Kid was penalised for "bringing a gun to school" for having a toy gun in his living room.
A suspension, and a permanent record for owning a toy gun in his own home.
And one of you is arguing over the technicality of the toy gun, while the other is offering information about how dangerous the toy can be "for what it's worth".
Are you guys really that rooted in opposing your political rivals that this is how things play out?
Yea and apparently that MUST mean he was a threat right?You forgot the big point - the kid is black.
Absolutely. Black is a threat to white suburban people.Yea and apparently that MUST mean he was a threat right?
Yep, sounds pretty dumb.They said the teacher told the Vice Principal it was a toy gun. The Vice Principal is who overreacted. They said from the video footage he wasn't even waving it around or pointing it he just moved it. They said they charged him with having a facsimile of a gun at school. HE WAS IN HIS OWN ROOM. He wasn't charged with threatening anyone or anything like that. A FACSIMILE OF A FIREARM AT SCHOOL. So if A Parent has any sort of weapon real or fake on the wall behind where their computer sits when they do virtual learning they can be charged to? Swords and shields? Civil war weapons? Viking Axe collection? Larp or Cosplay? This is wrong on so many levels.
It's a BB gun apparently.
Clearly not a NERF gun.
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Worse than that he has a record with the police department for having a FACSIMILE of a firearm at school, when he legally had his toy gun in his own home.It's a BB gun apparently.
However I will say this is stupid on so many levels
1) It's an orange tipped gun, that literally is an indication it's a toy of some kind not a real lethal firearm
2) It was during online lessons
3) they suspended him for it. Like really you're suspending a kid from online lessons because he happened to show a BB gun on video at one point? Like what? Why?
It's madnessWorse than that he has a record with the police department for having a FACSIMILE of a firearm at school, when he legally had his toy gun in his own home.
How is that going to look to employers and universities? They were willing to screw up this kids life for this.
I agree. If the vice principal is trying to cover the rear end of the school, they are doing it at the expense of a child who did nothing wrong. And as Sonic would say, "That's. No gooood!"Worse than that he has a record with the police department for having a FACSIMILE of a firearm at school, when he legally had his toy gun in his own home.
How is that going to look to employers and universities? They were willing to screw up this kids life for this.
I think you over-estimate the whole "permanent record" thing. I'd wager that nobody is ever going to see that.Worse than that he has a record with the police department for having a FACSIMILE of a firearm at school, when he legally had his toy gun in his own home.
How is that going to look to employers and universities?
They can still see it unless you pay to have it sealed. My brother couldn't afford to have his sealed, and it can impact your ability to get scholarships and employment. Minor stuff that happened to my brother when he was 13 came up while trying to get a job at a dealership. On top of that, it is all over the news so university researchers and employers will definitely find it regardless. Jobs in dealerships, banks, schools, airlines and many other fields look all the way back regardless.I think you over-estimate the whole "permanent record" thing. I'd wager that nobody is ever going to see that.
It's not a felony conviction, or anything.