How good is your eyesight? Can you see a difference in various graphics?

[Specter Von Baren]

I can, but it rarely makes any kind of difference to me when I do. I played the Switch version of Bloodstained and loved it despite the graphics being poor compared to the other versions. I think I just play enough indie games that I have a high tolerance for this sort of thing.

 

[Ghostrick Dorklord]

I have CROW Vision so I can see movement pretty well. I can see the differences between frame rates as well as a lot of detail. Its hard for me to explain though.

Its only drawback is that I react too much to movement which means I get distracted by the smallest movement.

 

[Kae]

it's garbage, can't even tell the difference between a lot of resolutions, much less frame-rates.
Also since I'm near-sighted on one eye & far-sighted on the other one that means I have depth perception problems and I can't see 3D unless I have my glasses on, so I'm not really keen on VR for example.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

it's garbage, can't even tell the difference between a lot of resolutions, much less frame-rates.
Also since I'm near-sighted on one eye & far-sighted on the other one that means I have depth perception problems and I can't see 3D unless I have my glasses on, so I'm not really keen on VR for example.

Do you..... Do you wear a monocle?

 

[Kae]

Do you..... Do you wear a monocle?

I do not, that'd look ridiculous, I did wear an eye-patch under my glasses for about a month when I burned my left eye, and yes it looked absurd.

 

[gorfias]

Toss my name in the Good enough for 30-to-60 FPS differentiation pile, as well as the What the fuck is the deal with 4K and 8K resolutions anyway?! pile.

I'm primarily a PC gamer with an occasional shift to console (Ghost of Tsushima has a pretty effective basic hook) and I mostly play in 1080p. Anything close to 4K is only ever useful if you're in the competitive field or really live for frame-perfect gameplay - but honestly?

I kind of have to scoff at anyone who tells me ultra-high resolution packs are the end-all of certain tentpole releases. Skyrim is nine freaking years old, all you're doing with that prospective texture pack is needlessly hog up some RAM, and the gameplay loop and world design weren't put in place to account for panels with ridiculously high refresh rates.

I'd maybe go 4K for the occasional nature documentary, but I don't see the point of changing your entire hardware for that specific set of compliant resolutions when most TV networks are struggling to produce content that fits the scale. News reports shot in 1080p with clothing and makeup design straight out of the SD era makes for a horrendous combination; I've started to hate pinstriped suits as a result! Not to mention the wrinkles on everyone's faces, ew!

I'm finding I am spoiled by true 4K video found typically, as you note, in nature shows.
Even if a movie sells as being 4K, especially one with a lot of special effects, it's actually 1080p with scaling. The images don't pop and aren't as sharp in, say, "Ready Player One" as a Planet Earth show in 4K on Netflix. They would have to do a lot more expensive compiling of those CGI effects to get true 4K so, my understanding is, they do not. Nature? Point a 4K camera at critters and you're golden.

Is there even 8K content out there? ITMT: TV screen size and how close you sit to it are central to really seeing the difference or not.
To really see 8K, am I going to need to sit 1 foot from a 105" screen to tell?

 

[Weasel Biggs]

Is there even 8K content out there? ITMT: TV screen size and how close you sit to it are central to really seeing the difference or not.
To really see 8K, am I going to need to sit 1 foot from a 105" screen to tell?

The only 8K content providers I've seen hyping up the format are, unsurprisingly, video game devs fresh off of the press junket for the RTX 3000 line and the upcoming "Big Navi" AMD cards. Most streaming services barely have a decent 4K catalogue, and that's at the mercy of your ISP. All of the high-def content the world has to offer doesn't mean squat if you live in an area where your high bandwidth map looks like a slice of gruyere cheese.

And yeah - 8K would require a beastly panel, unless the new standard is mostly deployed in the same way as 4K was - with upscaling from 1080p.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Can be more sensitive to low framerates these days than before, witb 60 being visibly so much smoother and more immersive. It became more an issue when some person i visited regularly had motion sickness to low framerates in games with quick 3D movement, which kinda rubbed off a bit after a while unfortunately. Being a dabbler in art for many a whiles also means details and colour are more noticeable and affecting to where sometimes just an artsyle alone can be enough to make or break something. Like, there's a game i really wanted to be able to try as it was from some people i like to support, but the colour choice in the artsyle makes me kinda ill just looking at it. Examples below;

Eurgh!

(Those tester gifs dont seem to be playing the 60fps at 60fps for me for some reason though, i wonded if thats a limitation elsewehere getting in the ways)

 

[Ezekiel]

I can tell the difference between 30 and 60. Never tried 120 or 144 Hz. I cared more about the image quality when I bought my first of these two monitors five years ago. I can easily tell the difference between 1920x1080 and my native 2560x1440. Can also tell the difference between 2560x1440 and my TV's native 3840x1440. For other graphics settings, it varies.

But, I also just don't really care that much. The time between generations bores me, because it's when gamers everywhere expose themselves as such graphics whores. Most of my favorite games look pretty crude compared to what's coming out now, but it doesn't bother me at all. I'm also more engrossed right now in Valiant Hearts than in any AAA game I've played in a long time, and preferred most of my Switch games over the more powerful PS4. (Favorite PS4 games were Gravity Rush Remastered and Shadow of the Colossus.) Graphics have little to do with my fun, and they often bloat production costs to the point that the developers have to make their games more for everyone in order to recover costs. I'm saying prettier games are usually more by the numbers and safe. Right now, I have so little interest in the next gen graphics cards. Will stick with my GTX 1070 for probably quite a while longer. I don't think there are any killer apps for the RTX 3000, meaning games I'd wanna upgrade for.

I'd maybe go 4K for the occasional nature documentary, but I don't see the point of changing your entire hardware for that specific set of compliant resolutions when most TV networks are struggling to produce content that fits the scale. News reports shot in 1080p with clothing and makeup design straight out of the SD era makes for a horrendous combination; I've started to hate pinstriped suits as a result! Not to mention the wrinkles on everyone's faces, ew!

How many people even watch TV anymore? I haven't watched TV in about thirteen years, and I know I'm odd, but even observing other people, it seems most just consume everything on Netflix, Hulu, Disney Plus, etc.

I buy 4K movies on disc. My collection is at 51 titles now. I would say nearly all of them are huge improvements over the 1080p YCbCr versions, thanks to much higher bitrates, more even grain structures, obviously better defined details and colors that more accurately match film. I can barely tolerate streaming quality. I also like having my TV for unmentionable photosets, most of which have even higher resolutions.

 

[SckizoBoy]

I do not, that'd look ridiculous.

How do you know that?(!) I have it on good authority that anyone... ANYONE can rock a top hat, monocle, waistcoat & tails (walking cane optional) look. Even my wife, who's only 4' 11"! Granted, I don't know what you look like, but I nonetheless stand by my point. =P

 

[Ezekiel]

Mean to say "my TV's native 3840x2160." Wish you edit your posts forever.

 

[Kae]

How do you know that?(!) I have it on good authority that anyone... ANYONE can rock a top hat, monocle, waistcoat & tails (walking cane optional) look. Even my wife, who's only 4' 11"! Granted, I don't know what you look like, but I nonetheless stand by my point. =P

I'm not classy at all, I'm more of a dishevelled, hipster-ish kinda person, not really a style that goes with monocles or top-hats, also I'm super clumsy and monocles look like they fall off really easily so not really something that's practical for me to wear.

Not saying it couldn't look good but it would require a complete change in style.

 

[SckizoBoy]

I'm not classy at all, I'm more of a dishevelled, hipster-ish kinda person, not really a style that goes with monocles or top-hats, also I'm super clumsy and monocles look like they fall off really easily so not really something that's practical for me to wear.

Not saying it couldn't look good but it would require a complete change in style.

Nnnnnnnonsense! A scuffed and crumpled top hat, scratched glass on the monocle, half-tucked shirt underneath a tea-stained waistcoat and unkempt tailcoat or shadbelly, it could totally work in a disheveled/hipster style ;D

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I can tell the difference between 30 and 60. Never tried 120 or 144 Hz. I cared more about the image quality when I bought my first of these two monitors five years ago. I can easily tell the difference between 1920x1080 and my native 2560x1440. Can also tell the difference between 2560x1440 and my TV's native 3840x1440. For other graphics settings, it varies.

But, I also just don't really care that much. The time between generations bores me, because it's when gamers everywhere expose themselves as such graphics whores. Most of my favorite games look pretty crude compared to what's coming out now, but it doesn't bother me at all. I'm also more engrossed right now in Valiant Hearts than in any AAA game I've played in a long time, and preferred most of my Switch games over the more powerful PS4. (Favorite PS4 games were Gravity Rush Remastered and Shadow of the Colossus.) Graphics have little to do with my fun, and they often bloat production costs to the point that the developers have to make their games more for everyone in order to recover costs. I'm saying prettier games are usually more by the numbers and safe. Right now, I have so little interest in the next gen graphics cards. Will stick with my GTX 1070 for probably quite a while longer. I don't think there are any killer apps for the RTX 3000, meaning games I'd wanna upgrade for.

How many people even watch TV anymore? I haven't watched TV in about thirteen years, and I know I'm odd, but even observing other people, it seems most just consume everything on Netflix, Hulu, Disney Plus, etc.

I buy 4K movies on disc. My collection is at 51 titles now. I would say nearly all of them are huge improvements over the 1080p YCbCr versions, thanks to much higher bitrates, more even grain structures, obviously better defined details and colors that more accurately match film. I can barely tolerate streaming quality. I also like having my TV for unmentionable photosets, most of which have even higher resolutions.

What’s starting to annoy me is that now everyone is jumping on the streaming bandwagon, and not everything I want to watch is available in one place anymore. They all want to differentiate and have the “only on...” tag line but it really doesn’t benefit the consumer. I barely watch cable, but it sucks having to sign up for trials of different services to watch the one or two shows and then cancel, because I’m not subscribing to everything.

Also it seems like for all the places trying to poach from Netflix the vast majority still don’t have as reliable streaming. I have 150Mb connection but you’d never be able to tell 95% of the time. Hulu is ok, but the interface doesn’t work as well. Google, Amazon, Disney, etc. mostly suck in that regard, and for as massive as those companies are it’s also ironic their streaming quality is hands down the worst in that order, at least in my experience.

The age of apps was supposed to make everything easier, but really it’s going to the opposite way.

 

[Baffle]

My eyesight isn't great (glasses are something like -1.75, though that's probably out of date now). Can rarely tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS.

I really dislike the hyper-resolution TVs that everyone has now -- everything looks like it's moving in a really weird way (too fast, but also stop-motion). People who have them must get used to it, but I find it really off-putting.

 

[Ezekiel]

My eyesight isn't great (glasses are something like -1.75, though that's probably out of date now). Can rarely tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS.

I really dislike the hyper-resolution TVs that everyone has now -- everything looks like it's moving in a really weird way (too fast, but also stop-motion). People who have them must get used to it, but I find it really off-putting.

Most people have motion interpolation turned on. It's gross. You can turn it off on probably any TV. I believe it's turned on by default on most.

 

[Ezekiel]

What’s starting to annoy me is that now everyone is jumping on the streaming bandwagon, and not everything I want to watch is available in one place anymore. They all want to differentiate and have the “only on...” tag line but it really doesn’t benefit the consumer. I barely watch cable, but it sucks having to sign up for trials of different services to watch the one or two shows and then cancel, because I’m not subscribing to everything.

Also it seems like for all the places trying to poach from Netflix the vast majority still don’t have as reliable streaming. I have 150Mb connection but you’d never be able to tell 95% of the time. Hulu is ok, but the interface doesn’t work as well. Google, Amazon, Disney, etc. mostly suck in that regard, and for as massive as those companies are it’s also ironic their streaming quality is hands down the worst in that order, at least in my experience.

The age of apps was supposed to make everything easier, but really it’s going to the opposite way.

Netflix looks horrible for me. It has for a few years now. Disney Plus looked good for the one week I used it. I have a 60 Mbps connection, far above Netflix's recommended speed of 5 Mbps for HD content. Probably something between Comcast and Netflix. If my neighbors are having the same issue, they probably don't care enough to complain to the ISP. My brother thinks the quality doesn't matter, that it's about the content. I think he's watching Avatar/The Legend of Korra. I could lend him my Blu-rays for both or rip them for him (He doesn't have a player.), but he just wouldn't care.

Everyone (Disney, Netflix, Amazon, etc.) wanting their own piece of the pie is one of the reasons I don't care for streaming. For the price of three or four subs a month, I'd rather just buy Blu-rays, DVDs and UHD discs and keep the content forever. No worrying about the licenses expiring and not being renewed. I can also choose between different Blu-ray transfers for the best version.

I have been RENTING from Netflix for a few years now, because they have a far, FAR bigger selection and the quality is so much better. I wish the distribution center that was near me hadn't been shut down, wherever it was. I know there had to be one pretty close, because I used to be able to rent six discs a week instead of just three.

 

[SilentPony]

I mean I have pretty damn good eyesight for a human. That said Im still limited by my human body, and I was under the impression there is a limit to how fast/accurate human eyesight is. I remember hearing that after something like 35FPS the human eye can't tell the difference between 36, 60, and 100 FPS.
And this is assuming you have a monitor that can refresh and display what your rig is putting into it.

 

[SupahEwok]

I mean I have pretty damn good eyesight for a human. That said Im still limited by my human body, and I was under the impression there is a limit to how fast/accurate human eyesight is. I remember hearing that after something like 35FPS the human eye can't tell the difference between 36, 60, and 100 FPS.

You're free to test it yourself. People have posted tests on here for your convenience.

 

[Baffle]

Most people have motion interpolation turned on. It's gross. You can turn it off on probably any TV. I believe it's turned on by default on most.

Ah, is that what it is? Thought it was just resolution. People swear it looks normal to them, but it drives me nuts.