Biden v. Trump Election Mega Thread

Who will win the election?

  • SleepyJoe

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • It doesn't matter who wins, because we will all lose in some way.

    Votes: 26 52.0%

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At least the audience is quiet. Donald only works best with a crowd. So far he is arguing with the moderator and Joe. There has been no signs of cognitive deciline on either of them for now.
Except Trump can't stop interrupting. He is like an ADHD 3 yr old. Trump is an embarrassment. People keep saying Trump was rude, agitated, unfocused, but according to everyone who has worked with him, that is just how Trump is 100% of the time.
 
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CNN largely summed up the debate: "a shitshow." Biden was "flat" and definitely looked lost a couple of times. Trump acted like he was tweaked out on meth.

Most important questions:

Will you disavow White Supremacists and far right groups?
Trump: The Proud Boys "should stand back and stand by."

Will you respect the results of the election and urge your supporters to wait for independent certification?
Trump: No.
Biden: Yes.

And before the usual suspects come and try to defend the white supremacy comment in particular, take 30 seconds to see what the current response of the Proud Boys' et al is online. They're literally celebrating it.
 
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So as an Non American here.

Trump:

Fairly inept in terms of political maneuvering

Based on body language experts he at least believes what he says is true even if it's not accurate all the time.

Fairly Egotistical.

Is at least trying to expand his knowledge. Believe it or not the stupid shit he said about light cleaning inside a person and injecting a dis-infectant like thing were based loosely upon Scientific ideas about at the time and yeh in laymans terms what Trump said would be a layman interpretation of the stuff.

He shut north Korea up.

He got his border wall and the earth didn't split in two killing everything in the area.

He won big off the riots. Remember 1 burned down business in a democrat stronghold is now 1 less democrat voter and possible 1 more Trump voter.

Those who got fed up of the Riots will turn to Trump or away from the Democrats.

Incumbent advantage.

Shut North Korea up for a while at least.

Has somehow come into this election cycle with more energy than even his last one.


Biden:

He was known for gaffs as a VP pick so you think Trump will cause an international incident then Joe is probably more likely to. Trump so far has survived 4 years and not caused a major international incident.

In his prime or even 4 years ago he could have done it but now he looks tired and honestly ill. He looks like some-one who need a rest not some-one who needs the most Stressful job in the USA for 4 years.

It seems likely he'll be more of a puppet president with Harris being the one pulling the strings most behind the scenes.

The concern that he doesn't make it and Harris does take over, I mean you think Trump is a Fascist? Harris is even more hardline on law and order and locking people up possibly to a scary degree which will drive off support from the left and the right. The left will walk away because she's very pro cop.

Biden's record on trusting China

Biden seems to be giving press conferences and tightly controlled stuff vs Trump seemingly getting out there doing rallies etc (yes it's a pandemic but Trump still going out to the people does give a good image of caring).

The unfortunate support for the protests which turned into riots will cause harm to democrats and the U-turn on that will alienate the protestors.

The Democrats blocking the Pandemic bailout package isn't a good look and Trump being able to push the money out to people via executive order (which he's being sued for) will drive people away from the Democats.

Overall

It will be close but Trump will win it based on the electoral college vote.
Biden will just edge out the Popular vote
Riots will happen (I mean Trump winning before saw riots and people have been rioting anyway for a while so it'll happen again).
Biden will concede because he's not a fool and even not clear headed he'll see a way out of this show and take it.
Harris will try to contest the election results personally.
Unless the Senate changes majorly there will be a 2nd attempt to impeach Trump based on something he said around this election cycle, it will fail.
Trump 2020 is not quite the naive fool looking to lose to launch his TV network so this is going to be a closer election just due to that.
I see Trump maybe stepping down at the 2-3 year mark with Pence taking over for the last bit and the VP who Pence picks to fill in will be the next Republican contender.



Future generations are going to make so many books, movies, and games out of this time period. They will regard this as the 2nd dark age.
Will they?

Will they really?

Or will it be game like State of Emergency just rebelling against the idea of Trump not what happened?
 

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Oh Joe. I love ya man, your ability to say stupid things and set yourself up for failure is breathtaking. But calling your son a patriot without specifying which when your other son was factually discharged for doing cocaine is record setting low levels of awareness.
 
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CNN largely summed up the debate: "a shitshow." Biden was "flat" and definitely looked lost a couple of times. Trump acted like he was tweaked out on meth.

Most important questions:

Will you disavow White Supremacists and far right groups?
Trump: The Proud Boys "should stand back and stand by."

Will you respect the results of the election and urge your supporters to wait for independent certification?
Trump: No.
Biden: Yes.
I think Biden addressing that Trump's executive order on preexisting conditions is only for show and amounts to actually doing nothing to actually protect people with preexisting conditions as well calling out Trump for having no healthcare plan and he just wants to take away people's existing healthcare. ALSO:

Fact check: Are there 100 million Americans with pre-existing conditions?
BIDEN CLAIM: "There is a hundred million people that have pre-existing conditions, and they'll be taken away as well, those pre-existing condition — those insurance companies are going to love this. That's not appropriate to do this before this election."

FACT CHECK: Mostly true.
In 2017, the Department of Health and Human Services released a study which found that 23% to 51% of non-elderly Americans (those under age 65) — or 61 million to 133 million people — have pre-existing health conditions.


Trump says he disagrees with head of his own vaccine task force

"The president has no plan. He hasn't laid out anything. He knew all the way back in February how serious this crisis was," Biden said, seemingly referring to when Mr. Trump told journalist Bob Woodward in February that the virus was "deadly stuff" while downplaying the risks in public.

Biden said that if he were president, he would ensure that hospitals had the equipment necessary to treat patients and protect health care workers, and that schools were properly funded.

Mr. Trump touted his decision to restrict travel from China at the end of January, claiming that it saved millions of lives.

"It's China's fault, it should have never happened," Mr. Trump said, adding that he had received praise from governors as doing a "phenomenal job."

Biden to Trump: "Will you shut up, man?"
As the president continued to talk over Biden while he tried to answer a question about the Supreme Court, an exasperated Biden had clearly had enough.
"Will you shut up, man?" the former vice president said to the current president.


Biden summed up what everyone was thinking at that point.
 

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Oh Joe. I love ya man, your ability to say stupid things and set yourself up for failure is breathtaking. But calling your son a patriot without specifying which when your other son was factually discharged for doing cocaine is record setting low levels of awareness.
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Nothing incompatible between patriotism and cocaine abuse. They might even enhance each other.
 

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"The Green New Deal is not my plan! The Green New Deal is not my plan!"

Great. :rolleyes:
No because he has his own plan.
 

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No because he has his own plan.
" Ensure the U.S. achieves a 100% clean energy economy and reaches net-zero emissions no later than 2050. "

This is climate change denialism.
 

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Nothing incompatible between patriotism and cocaine abuse. They might even enhance each other.
I have no idea why people get their news from a republican's twitter.
Frank Ian Luntz is an American political and communications consultant, pollster and pundit, best known for developing talking points and other messaging for Republican causes
I have no idea why you constantly spread republican talking points. lol

CBS poll on Tv just showed Biden won the debate

 

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"Consensus is that Trump dominated... And turned off undecided voters in the process"

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I have no idea why people get their news from a republican's twitter.
Frank Ian Luntz is an American political and communications consultant, pollster and pundit, best known for developing talking points and other messaging for Republican causes
I have no idea why you constantly spread republican talking points. lol

CBS poll on Tv just showed Biden won the debate.

Because that's SO much more trustworthy.
 

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Watched the debate, and listened to the commentary after words. Here are my thoughts. Not all of them because the cat at that time decided to butt type on my keyboard.

First fifteen minutes, lost count the number of times they interrupted each other. ANother 5 minutes in, and I was asking myself where my crayons and paper were due to how childish they were.



One China Plague quote from Trump, which wow, way to be tactful.



Trump Accusing Biden’s son taking 3.5 million bucks from the wife of the mayor of Moscow, despite the implications of Mother Russia having a hand in his sucsesses.



7:08pm Pacific time moment: Trump refused to DIRECTLY SAY TO CALL OUT WHITE SUPREMISIISTS IN THE SAME WAY HE ASKED BINDEN TO CALL OUT THE RIOTERS.

Trump going "they shouldn't even calling it Obama Care" despite the fact the republicans were the ones to first call it that.


ANd so on.

Biden seemed less belligerent, by comparison and seemed to answer his questions vs beat around the bush more times then not. He also didn't need to be reeled in by the moderator on the ground nearly as often.

SOme of the commentators, even the Republican supporting ones, seem to think this overly aggressive nature of Trump's strategy may have doomed it has it made him very one note.


I still think we are screwed either way, but if Cthullu was running for president, I'd vote for him to get that walking talking tumor out of office. As is, I doubt you could call this a victory for either man, but one was more of a looser than not.
 

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Will they?

Will they really?

Or will it be game like State of Emergency just rebelling against the idea of Trump not what happened?
Personally hoping for us to go through a period like Japan did in the 80's/90's and we get some cool anime out of it like Akira and Jin-Roh.
 

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" Ensure the U.S. achieves a 100% clean energy economy and reaches net-zero emissions no later than 2050. "

This is climate change denialism.
That isn't climate change denialism. Trump has no plan to have net zero emissions and is actively trying to reverse any laws that do.
 
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