Donald and Melania Trump Test Positive for Covid

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I mean, openly wishing for the death of a president of the united states is KIIIIIND of a crime, last I checked.
No, not really. Wishing death from an existing illness falls short of a threat.
 

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Trumps death would be terrible. It will allow his deranged cult to insist Trump would have gone on to do great things if he had not tragically died. They will see keep seeing a glorious second term that was denied them and this will make them all the more likely to support the next demagogue. Trump's death will deny them the self reflection they so sorely need. It will also deny America to reject Trump in the election which is a vital step to returning to normalcy. Its unhealthy for America not to get the chance to reject Trump.

For Trump himself his death would be a tragedy but for the cause of demagoguery his death is the best outcome there is. It allows them to dodge responsibility for the trainwreck of the Trump presidency, it gives them a martyr figure to rally behind and it will further facilitate the victim complex of their base.
 

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Just to clarify, something like "maybe he will die horribly" would be ok, but "I hope he does in a puddle of sick" wouldn't be? I did go with examples that are kinda out there. Personally I want it to be a nice painful disease for him, but for him to live since there is so much he needs to be held accountable for.
I think it would be best to not broach the subject...

It's just best to avoid that kind of talk altogether
 

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Trumps death would be terrible. It will allow his deranged cult to insist Trump would have gone on to do great things if he had not tragically died. They will see keep seeing a glorious second term that was denied them and this will make them all the more likely to support the next demagogue. Trump's death will deny them the self reflection they so sorely need. It will also deny America to reject Trump in the election which is a vital step to returning to normalcy. Its unhealthy for America not to get the chance to reject Trump.

For Trump himself his death would be a tragedy but for the cause of demagoguery his death is the best outcome there is. It allows them to dodge responsibility for the trainwreck of the Trump presidency, it gives them a martyr figure to rally behind and it will further facilitate the victim complex of their base.
I think you have rather unrealistic expectations of the trajectory his life and that of his followers was gonna take before this and their responses to theoretical events (not being reelected).
 

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Trumps death would be terrible. It will allow his deranged cult to insist Trump would have gone on to do great things if he had not tragically died. They will see keep seeing a glorious second term that was denied them and this will make them all the more likely to support the next demagogue. Trump's death will deny them the self reflection they so sorely need. It will also deny America to reject Trump in the election which is a vital step to returning to normalcy. Its unhealthy for America not to get the chance to reject Trump.

For Trump himself his death would be a tragedy but for the cause of demagoguery his death is the best outcome there is. It allows them to dodge responsibility for the trainwreck of the Trump presidency, it gives them a martyr figure to rally behind and it will further facilitate the victim complex of their base.
Yeah strongly agree, Trump need to be defeated at the ballot box if there's any chance that his cult accept that maybe he wasn't the glorious leader. If he dies now they'll see him as some "martyr" (never mind that he'd die from a disease that he himself denied was dangerous). Same for the republican party, they decided that Trumpism was above all other value they held, they need to face the consequence of that choice rather than have an easy escape. Worse him dying might actually increase the chance of democrat losing the election, hard to rail against a dead man.

I don't see anything positive coming him passing away.
 

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The cynic that I am thinks this is still part of the plan to get a pardon.
The guy would have been given a pardon with or without this. And even if he dies, his files wouldn't be declassified. Everything the gubmint does is to save face and not embarrass themselves further. Everything is swept under the rug under the guise of "national security".
 

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I just read an article (and lost it) that Trump was given a Covid Vaccine that begins with an R. It was on my phone and I can't access it's history.

This is the end game if this is a play.

Trump gets covid. Trump gets better in mere days after Covid with the Vaccine he has been promising for months. Trump wins the election.
 

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I just read an article (and lost it) that Trump was given a Covid Vaccine that begins with an R. It was on my phone and I can't access it's history.

This is the end game if this is a play.

Trump gets covid. Trump gets better in mere days after Covid with the Vaccine he has been promising for months. Trump wins the election.
You mean RNA vaccine? Hopefully the vaccine backfires. We will what happens in 2 weeks.
 

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Trumps death would be terrible. It will allow his deranged cult to insist Trump would have gone on to do great things if he had not tragically died. They will see keep seeing a glorious second term that was denied them and this will make them all the more likely to support the next demagogue. Trump's death will deny them the self reflection they so sorely need. It will also deny America to reject Trump in the election which is a vital step to returning to normalcy. Its unhealthy for America not to get the chance to reject Trump.

For Trump himself his death would be a tragedy but for the cause of demagoguery his death is the best outcome there is. It allows them to dodge responsibility for the trainwreck of the Trump presidency, it gives them a martyr figure to rally behind and it will further facilitate the victim complex of their base.
Lol that’s not how fascism works bro.

Also, if you’re interested in how effective thoughts and prayers are for winning an election, Biden has decided to engage in a one sided ceasefire.
 

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Ah yeah, I should mention that update: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-coronavirus-positive/index.html

Will edit into the OP as well

Edit: lol actually fuck that link, it's a general thing will drop this one: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/president-donald-trump-walter-reed-coronavirus/index.html
Article points out it's precautionary and he plans to work from an office set up from there. He'll just be closer to Doctors should things get worse.


Trumps death would be terrible. It will allow his deranged cult to insist Trump would have gone on to do great things if he had not tragically died. They will see keep seeing a glorious second term that was denied them and this will make them all the more likely to support the next demagogue. Trump's death will deny them the self reflection they so sorely need. It will also deny America to reject Trump in the election which is a vital step to returning to normalcy. Its unhealthy for America not to get the chance to reject Trump.

For Trump himself his death would be a tragedy but for the cause of demagoguery his death is the best outcome there is. It allows them to dodge responsibility for the trainwreck of the Trump presidency, it gives them a martyr figure to rally behind and it will further facilitate the victim complex of their base.
So the USA will return to Slick wealthy buisnessman vs Career Politician whose in the pocket of other wealthy businessmen?

That seems to be the default for American election politics.

Lol that’s not how fascism works bro.

Also, if you’re interested in how effective thoughts and prayers are for winning an election, Biden has decided to engage in a one sided ceasefire.
Didn't Hillary make the same claim about stopping negative attack ads? Then every appearance she made she took a shot or two at Trump
 

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You mean RNA vaccine? Hopefully the vaccine backfires. We will what happens in 2 weeks.
Nope. Found it. It was Regeneron


And what do you know? Stock is higher after it was found out to be given to Trump.



And here we go.

This is the harm done, Ladies and Gentlemen. Because many people don't trust Trump, this Vaccine is now tainted.

We see that just because Trump picked something, the Market Price increased. If he does get better, and because of his past, there's going to be a large percentage of people who believe he made up this infection to declare he finally got the miracle vaccine and will not trust Regeneron. Even if it actually works.

That's what happens when you have someone who lies to you constantly. You don't believe them. And you really have no cause to.
 

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Lol that’s not how fascism works bro.

Also, if you’re interested in how effective thoughts and prayers are for winning an election, Biden has decided to engage in a one sided ceasefire.
I mean, idk? Like genuinely, I'm not sure whether that's the right move or not for optics and shit? I can't imagine they didn't do it with strategy in mind
 

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Nope. Found it. It was Regeneron


And what do you know? Stock is higher after it was found out to be given to Trump.



And here we go.

This is the harm done, Ladies and Gentlemen. Because many people don't trust Trump, this Vaccine is now tainted.

We see that just because Trump picked something, the Market Price increased. If he does get better, and because of his past, there's going to be a large percentage of people who believe he made up this infection to declare he finally got the miracle vaccine and will not trust Regeneron. Even if it actually works.

That's what happens when you have someone who lies to you constantly. You don't believe them. And you really have no cause to.
Trump so hated he's turned people who claim to love Science and be the party of sense into Anti-vaxxers.

Every day I keep expecting to wake up and the madness to end and to find it was all just a silly dream and it's the year 2000 where people on the internet are back to dunking on religious zealots, cranks and idiot preachers burning copies of Harry Potter.
 

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Nope. Found it. It was Regeneron


And what do you know? Stock is higher after it was found out to be given to Trump.



And here we go.

This is the harm done, Ladies and Gentlemen. Because many people don't trust Trump, this Vaccine is now tainted.

We see that just because Trump picked something, the Market Price increased. If he does get better, and because of his past, there's going to be a large percentage of people who believe he made up this infection to declare he finally got the miracle vaccine and will not trust Regeneron. Even if it actually works.

That's what happens when you have someone who lies to you constantly. You don't believe them. And you really have no cause to.
Do you like have any evidence about the predictions you're making about how people will react? Like this thread uh certainly has people suggesting him claiming to be sick is a ploy but tbh that sounds pretty far out there to me right now. This whole line of logic doesn't seem like something I expect a lot of people to think