You need more context than "dance competitions" before you can draw the line between what sort of outfit isn't acceptable for a dance competition?
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Yea, see you don't want to answer any of the questions yet expect me to. The burden is on the accuser to prove such outfit is lewd in the first place. That has not been done.
Yeah I specifically mentioned traditional dances. Ones who’s cultural custodians - like your grandparents - have not allowed to removed from its broader context with the Hopi culture. A grip I assume you and yours will not relinquish until the cold death of the sun. An endeavour I hope you’re successful in, by the way.
I just don’t have the same feelings about modern popular dance. It’s just like a void of meaning other than being as outrageously and overtly sexual as possible.
Also, Iron Maiden or Judas Priest? Choose wisely.
That's my line.
If you are asked a question, ignore it, and then ask questions of your own, you don't get to say "Hey! You don't get to ignore my questions while demanding that I answer yours!"
I asked first, you see.
The rule of common courtesy is that questions get answered in the order that they are asked.
You don't get to ignore your interlocutor's question, ask several of your own, and then accuse them of hypocrisy when they press you for an answer to the original question.
They ask. You answer. Then you ask, and they answer.
How about this, you answer my question (that I asked first), and then I'll go back and answer all of yours. Sound fair?
Yeah that's what I thought.
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Man, Jean Reno looks ready to bolt for the fucking door in that scene.
EDIT: Fucking hell I spelt his name wrong.
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Personally, the issue for me isn't any cultural stigma regarding sex; it's the sexualization of innocent, minor children in a world where pedophilia and sex trafficking are real, constant and growing problems. On one hand we want to tell young children to explore themselves and figure out who they are or who they want to be, but then on the other, we want to guard them against the worst of society in perverts, creeps and criminals; unfortunately, it's when those hands clap that the waters get muddy and personal convictions are steeled because it's dangerous territory.
See, I'm fine with that; it was a tasteful display of her talent. The first video was just tasteLESS. She may have created the routine, but she didn't invent the moves in them which she likely saw being performed by grown women who were well aware of their sexually charged implication, and that's what I'm not okay with.
This is not a challenge; it's an honest question: how would you feel about a 10-year-old girl dancing like a stripper? Scantily clad whilst swirling and grinding on a pole, perfectly imitating moves used by professionals who do them specifically to be sexually enticing?
Exactly, it's the perfect encapsulation of the heart of this discussion.
just playing your game. I find nothing wrong with this show other than it sucks. You obviously view 10 year old girls as sexual objects. That's for you to work out.
So there's nothing wrong with taking recordings of nude girls dancing, and nobody should be punished for viewing these, because there's nothing sexual about it?
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There is something wrong with taking recordings of nude girls dancing, and the people that do so should be punished because there's something sexual about it?
Which is it? Both can't be true.
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Yeah that really is the issue isn't it. Its not so much children doing something wrong, its that we worry that assholes will be tempted by it. It would be better if we could get the assholes to not do asshole things but getting men to even acknowledge they need to change can be hard and lets face it, it does mainly come down to men being the problem here with this kinda thing. Remember those shaving ads a year or 2 ago about men telling other men not to be douches to women and such? Remember the backlash those got from the right?
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That is just it though sex trafficking isn't even remotely related to hip hop dancing. Predators do not even target girls like this in the first place. From the data they have gathered from actual incarcerated predators, they look for shy, modestly dressed women and girls, not the confident hip hop dancers. The entire relation is a construct of the imagination, not even based in fact. Human traffickers are trafficking kids in foster care, usually in these strict, Christian homes. Connecting them at all is not based in fact at all.
Her first video was also fine and each of her dances have showcased her skills as a dancer. She actually was professionally trained and taught the moves through her dance school, because whether or not you or anyone else approves, these are legitimately taught in dance schools now as well. Tbh the disapproval to me is really not much different than when the churches were in an uproar over swing dancing. Sort of like the looks on the audiences faces after this:
They just aren't ready for this yet. LOL
You mean pole dancing like this with the kids running across the stage? XD
This might break your eyes/ ears.. everything but as kids we did pole dancing on the playground at school on the tetherball pole quite often. At home we liked to use the T-bar swing set for exactly that. LMAO!
I am guessing you didn't know this was a thing:
I am not seeing how it is any different than my other gymnastics and dance classes. I think they have competitions for this too now on the beach as a sport.. I am not seeing this as being any different than other acrobatics like trapeze for example.
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That is a difficult choice, however. I am going to have to go with Iron Maiden simply because I can never forgive Judas Priest for Turbo Lover. Though I usually like my metal faster.. harder than either most the time. I was always more of a slayer girl.. Thrash metal/ speed metal, death metal. Though I also like some metal punk and others. I just don't really like slow music at all though, metal or otherwise.
Have you seen the women who work in strip clubs? And have you seen the average woman men actually tend to land? There's fantasy and then there's reality; I connect the suggestive dancing to sex trafficking because the suggestive dancing could serve as an outlet for the pervs who ultimately prey on the closeted types to fetishize their abhorrent tendencies, i.e.: there are those out there that like diddling kids, and we're supposed to be ok putting "sexy children" on display? (And now, I'm probably on some sort of watch list for typing "sexy children" twice.)
No, I didn't know this was a thing, now I'm wondering why it's a thing. Ugh... (no, I didn't watch the video; the still image was enough.)
It really is no different than other acrobatics. I was in gymnastics televised events as well, I was captain of my gymnastics team in high school when we went to state.. so I am not seeing that as being" sexy" at all is the issue. I don't connect it to sex at all tbh.
They can be though, some of the costumes use them and they can be quite large, larger than some swimsuits cover.
seashell pasties
For one costume they had made pasties that were huge shells similar to this out of felt I think but they touched in the middle so there was no gap, but they stayed in place so much better than trying to use net or ties if you stick them in place so that when you do flips and cartwheels, they don't move like they do with net and string.. These actually covered more.
When you look at Ariel's top, if you are going to be moving around that much you really want to make sure they are stuck in place or it could turn bad fast. LOL
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There's a whole lot of non-consent going on here. Consent isn't just about sex, it's about all work / contracts
For this to be a thing. 1. The girl has to consent. And 2. Underage children have to have parents consent. Even then, I would have some sort of child safety department checking that this isn't exploitation. Like the girls in Cuties had go through a process before any of this was okayed
You're only allowed to take videos of performances where the performers give consent.
It's not the size that's the problem. It's that they are stickers
Maybe I just need to use them to understand
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