What? Are you fucking kidding me? New York Times posts an article advocating against free speech.

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Nobody. No more Twitter. No mods no masters.
Guess what happens then? The users start policing stuff. Ever wondered why Gab is so bad? Ever wondered why Cancel Culture is a thing?

Edit: I can understand you saying this, being ACAB and all. I'm just finding it funny how all the anti-BLM people are so against the police. I don't think they've realised how pro-BLM they are
 

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And which neither economic elites nor the government that serves them want.



Something tells me your estimation of 'disinformation' has nothing to do with whether something is true.




I don't know, but I'm quite skeptical that Biden would get even that done. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/07/joe-biden-public-option-single-payer-health-company-donations



And squelching "disinformation" and replacing it with actual disinformation doesn't.

You are reading the articles right?
1) That article didn't say Bill received money FROM the Clinton foundation for his speeches. It was that they scheduled his speaking events alongside fundraising for the Clinton Foundation. He was being paid for speeches by these different groups while they were also fundraising for the foundation. You try to make that sound more sinister than it was. The Clinton's put in millions of their own money INTO the foundation, they were not receiving money from it. Their financials were extremely transparent and it was rated an A+ charity. I am not seeing how Bill being paid for speeches + raising money for the foundation is supposed to be a bad thing here. They literally saved hundreds of millions of lives through the foundation. I mean it is better that he earned money for speeches+ raising money for the foundations instead of JUST earning money for himself right? He likely could have just done that. This sounds like the much nicer option here. You and others attempted to present the Clinton foundation as a slush fund for the Clintons, when that was proven false:

"The Clinton Foundation is a charity where President and Secretary Clinton and their daughter, they take no salary, they get no money from it, they take no personal benefit from it."

Bill's speaking fees were paid for by others separate from the foundation even though he chose to ALSO raise money for the foundation at the same time. There was no corruption with that at all here.

2) You speculating on the Public option based off someone else speculating when Biden has given us no reason to think that the public option wasn't core to his plan.

That is why truth is important. Otherwise people would just have no clue at all what is going on here.

You STILL thinking that the Clintons took money from the Clinton foundation is exactly WHY we need to make sure we hold people accountable for disinformation. Hell, you even being suspicious of Biden's Public option is due to some BS opinion piece, not based on anything Biden actually said or did here.
 

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Guess what happens then? The users start policing stuff. Ever wondered why Gab is so bad? Ever wondered why Cancel Culture is a thing?

Edit: I can understand you saying this, being ACAB and all. I'm just finding it funny how all the anti-BLM people are so against the police. I don't think they've realised how pro-BLM they are
I think you missed the “no more Twitter” part. No mods no masters is just a punchline.
 

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You are reading the articles right?
1) That article didn't say Bill received money FROM the Clinton foundation for his speeches. It was that they scheduled his speaking events alongside fundraising for the Clinton Foundation. He was being paid for speeches by these different groups while they were also fundraising for the foundation. You try to make that sound more sinister than it was. The Clinton's put in millions of their own money INTO the foundation, they were not receiving money from it. Their financials were extremely transparent and it was rated an A+ charity. I am not seeing how Bill being paid for speeches + raising money for the foundation is supposed to be a bad thing here. They literally saved hundreds of millions of lives through the foundation. I mean it is better that he earned money for speeches+ raising money for the foundations instead of JUST earning money for himself right? He likely could have just done that. This sounds like the much nicer option here. You and others attempted to present the Clinton foundation as a slush fund for the Clintons, when that was proven false:

"The Clinton Foundation is a charity where President and Secretary Clinton and their daughter, they take no salary, they get no money from it, they take no personal benefit from it."

Bill's speaking fees were paid for by others separate from the foundation even though he chose to ALSO raise money for the foundation at the same time. There was no corruption with that at all here.

2) You speculating on the Public option based off someone else speculating when Biden has given us no reason to think that the public option wasn't core to his plan.

That is why truth is important. Otherwise people would just have no clue at all what is going on here.

You STILL thinking that the Clintons took money from the Clinton foundation is exactly WHY we need to make sure we hold people accountable for disinformation. Hell, you even being suspicious of Biden's Public option is due to some BS opinion piece, not based on anything Biden actually said or did here.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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He could have been like Trump and just kept ALL the money for himself.. Every former president gets speaking fees, Bill and Hillary just chose to save Hundreds of millions of lives WHILE doing so.

The problem is no matter how much you see that their foundation literally saved hundreds of millions of lives, and that they take no salary, take no money from it, IN fact thye have donated millions to it on their own as well yet you still want to scream "corruption!", when they have done more than just about any former president here. How many other presidents did the same here? Are you saying they shouldn't have had a foundation and saved hundreds of millions of lives here? Bill was entitled to speaking fees regardless of what happened with the foundation, just as other former presidents are.


You still thinking this was somehow bad is part of the problem with disinformation here.
 

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Did you know the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has made a profit every year of its existence? I wonder how relevant that is to Devils’s post.
Did you know that the Clinton foundation is a A+ rated charity with their financials completely transparent, and that the Clintons take NO MONEY FROM IT but instead DONATE THEIR OWN MONEY TO IT?

The problem with misinformation is people repeat lies like " corrupt slush fund" enough times and people believe it regardless of what the facts actually show here.

 
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Did you know that the Clinton foundation is a A+ rated charity with their financials completely transparent, and that the Clintons take NO MONEY FROM IT but instead DONATE THEIR OWN MONEY TO IT?

The problem with misinformation is people repeat lies like " corrupt slush fund" enough times and people believe it regardless of what the facts actually show here.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is also absurdly high rated and they also do not draw a salary from it and they also donate their own money to it.
 

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Gosh, I have a bunch of business that the Secretary of State of the United States of America has some influence over. I guess, for entirely unrelated reasons, I'll go donate some money to the Clinton Foundation and have Bill Clinton come speak about all the great work the Clinton Foundation does, naturally for hundreds of thousands of dollars. There is absolutely nothing suspect about this whatsoever!

You still thinking this was somehow bad is part of the problem with disinformation here.
It's literally just information. And yet you implicitly want to squelch it.
 
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I think you missed the “no more Twitter” part. No mods no masters is just a punchline.
Yeah, if you get rid of twitter, you're just going to get other people making their Twitter

I understand the premise. I dont think thats a reality
 

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Yeah, if you get rid of twitter, you're just going to get other people making their Twitter

I understand the premise. I dont think thats a reality
You’re once again thinking small. You get rid of the Silicon Valley vultures and all the related shit, you can get out of this. Otherwise the genie is out of the bottle.
 

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Gosh, I have a bunch of business that the Secretary of State of the United States of America has some influence over. I guess, for entirely unrelated reasons, I'll go donate some money to the Clinton Foundation and have Bill Clinton come speak about all the great work the Clinton Foundation does, naturally for hundreds of thousands of dollars. There is absolutely nothing suspect about this whatsoever!
It's literally just information. And yet you implicitly want to squelch it.
Calling the Clinton foundation a slush fund for the Clintons, which was done on the escapist was a blatant lie. That wasn't just "information" it was factually untrue.

Bill isn't even the highest paid speaker here. Obama isn't even in politics anymore and he is the highest paid speaker right now. That is how this works for former presidents. You are making it out like this is somehow unique. It really isn't. What are they getting from Obama if this is somehow " pay for play" as suggested? The rest of the people on that list? That is just it. It is no different for the Clintons, you just think there is because she was still in politics. To make it worse, people lying about the foundation actually harmed those they were helping with the money. When trump started lying about the foundation, it killed their donations because people thought they were misrepresenting where the funds went, when they have proven without a doubt otherwise by making their financials 100% transparent. The only people harmed by reduced donations to the foundation are the millions of people in Africa who were relying on it to live.

 

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THE MAN MADE TWO PEOPLE DROP OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN A SINGLE NIGHT
Proof?

edit: And even if he did "make" them drop out, that isn't evidence of "pay for play" by itself. You're entirely lacking any connection between the two events...
 
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The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is also absurdly high rated and they also do not draw a salary from it and they also donate their own money to it.
And what exactly does that have to do with the Clinton Foundation?
 

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Proof?

edit: And even if he did "make" them drop out, that isn't evidence of "pay for play" by itself. You're entirely lacking any connection between the two events...
And even worse, what would that even have to do with speaking fees? Oh yea, it doesn't.. This is just more of the usual conspiracy BS. Obama didn't make anyone drop out and he also held back on backing Biden for a good while EVEN though he was his own VP pick.

TBH, they are proving my point for me that disinformation isn't helping anyone here.
 

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The corruption is not as blatant as no one is saying that it is, so therefore it must not be real.
When you claim corruption with zero evidence beyond assumptions, no shit we're going to dismiss it. Nut up or shut up.
 
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