A review of the Trump Presidency
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Eldest failson. Constantly trying to insert his dumb ass into the conversation in a transparent bid for his father's approval.
Slumlord dynastic marriage. Kushner in particular was given an outsized portfolio as an advisor and top security clearance, despite the fact he qualified for none of it. In other words: typical rich man's son. Ivanka is also just as shady as her father.
Crooked lawyer.
Anti-queer, anti-science fundie who supports gay conversion torture.
Out of all of them I hate Betsy DeVos the most.
Because the American Education System is what upsets me the most, and this FUCKING KAREN is gonna obliterate it and send us back to the Medieval Times with Private Christian Schools like the those PACEs I was raised on.
Yeah, she's a bit more cartoony evil than the others. Like, Trump Jr "I know about the Middle East conflict, I read 20 books"...that's just bad. Really bad.
But DeVos needs an evil laugh or something.
(Also, Jared Kushner is related by marriage to Karlie Kloss, who occasionally says things like "You should all talk to your family about politics", and I bet she's not explained how evil Trump is to her relative, Donald Trump)
Oh, almost forgot. She tried to defund the Special Olympics to the tune of $18 million. The backlash was so intense she and Trump were tripping over each other trying to throw the other one under the bus.
Ah, the Trumpspawn.
These are the sorts of people who for me demonstrate just how little merit truly matters in society. Talentless wastresls waiting to inherit, none of them have ever achieved anything worthwhile, and there they squatting in the White House enjoying glitz, glamour and station just because daddy is phenomentally rich. My only sympathy for them is the fact that they have probably lived in fear their whole lives that their comfort depended on catering to the monstrous ego of their father, and there they are as the most craven of the Trump circle's sycophants. I'd like to think that the forgotten one, Tiffany, might turn out a better human being for being more apart from that godforsaken family, but the way of the world is such that I bet it'll be that troika of entitled mediocrity that float to the top.
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Except he can't do that. He can't pardon himself unless charges are brought against him, now hypothetically he could hand things to pence, get his doj to quickly file charges and plead guilty then get pence to pardon him. But even if this could be done, it would only protect him from those specific federal charges, it wouldn't protect him from state charges in New York or any other state that would charge him.
Executive Order Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States | The White House
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act
So, you're fundamentally not going to believe anything that you disagreed with? You put in Fake News.
All this tells me is that you're not interested in a discussion, but merely voicing your opinions. And Yeah, that's fine. Go ahead. But if we put the news that I shared and if evidence is supplied for it, will you still deny it then? Will you pivot?
And by the way, if Biden or anyone I ever support did anything to actually hurt you? Like remove civil right protections for the women in your family or prevent you away from seeking help or suing for restorations? I would be on it. Because I don't give a good God Damn about the labels and the flags and the 'sides'.
I care about the people in this world. and my fellow American Citizens. I win when we all win.
EDIT: Maybe this disproportionately impacted that community, but it was not a ban on them. In fact, I'm sure in this time, Muslims could enter the US as long as they were not coming from a nation on that list. Correct? EDIT: Actually reads that Muslims are protected by this act if they are the minority of a given nation.Executive Order Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States | The White House
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Actwww.whitehouse.gov
So, you're fundamentally not going to believe anything that you disagreed with? You put in Fake News.
All this tells me is that you're not interested in a discussion, but merely voicing your opinions. And Yeah, that's fine. Go ahead. But if we put the news that I shared and if evidence is supplied for it, will you still deny it then? Will you pivot?
And by the way, if Biden or anyone I ever support did anything to actually hurt you? Like remove civil right protections for the women in your family or prevent you away from seeking help or suing for restorations? I would be on it. Because I don't give a good God Damn about the labels and the flags and the 'sides'.
I care about the people in this world. and my fellow American Citizens. I win when we all win.
And there really has been a ton of fake news. It really is hard to know what to believe. I'm sure Trump has done some objectionable things. He's done a lot of great things. But he really is being lied about, a ton.
This fellow says the lies and disinformation all had a purpose. I think he is spot on:
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You just admitted that you didn't actually read his citation. I don't often see this combination of dishonesty and candor. And I blame Trump for that.
How about, " (iv) Executive Order 13769 did not provide a basis for discriminating for or against members of any particular religion. While that order allowed for prioritization of refugee claims from members of persecuted religious minority groups, that priority applied to refugees from every nation, including those in which Islam is a minority religion, and it applied to minority sects within a religion. That order was not motivated by animus toward any religion, but was instead intended to protect the ability of religious minorities — whoever they are and wherever they reside — to avail themselves of the USRAP in light of their particular challenges and circumstances. " from the link , emphasis added. Muslims, where specifically protected by this act.
The basic, easier question to answer and I asked it: Were Muslims allowed to enter the US at that time? The answer is yes. There was no Muslim ban.
Ah, so we're dishonestly claiming to follow what Trump's lawyers said in court, not what the administration actually did.
That is not an answer to my question. Were Muslims allowed to enter the US, just not from certain countries. The answer again, is yes. No Muslim ban. I honestly have no better way to point that out. You just have to deal with being so wrong.
So Muslims from those countries were banned. Do those countries not count somehow?
Correct. POTUS has the right to ban travel from suspect nations. And Obsidian Jones' link even has justifications for what was done.
There is a difference between writing that some Muslims were banned vs. there was a Muslims ban. It isn't a Muslim ban if there are Muslims that aren't being banned. Self evident really.
If you can provide evidence of my hypocrisy, feel free. My point stands that we can see how dishonest you are. Any argument you don't want to hear you just call fake news and plug your ears. You're not talking with any of us. You only ever talk at us.
Actually, in this forum, I was shown that Trump has actually increased drone strikes over what Obama had done. I find that disappointing. I do try to listen and learn. But when you engage in semantics and tell me I'm the one doing it? You should stop doing things like that.
Well, something got through anyway. Unfortunately, you still dismiss most of it as fake news. It tends to piss people off when they go to the trouble of dredging up the research and you just hand wave it off with a trite, 2-word cliche that was spoon-fed to you by a grifting demagogue.