Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)
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If there's anything I've learned these past couple of years of Trump, it's that his supporters are quite literally cult followers incapable of thinking for themselves. Trump and his media talking-heads guide their every thought.
So the answer to this question - there's no limit to the number. These people live in an alternate reality. They will deny evidence and even the most obvious of facts if they don't allign with what they've been told. Their entire worldview is based on what Trump and his cohorts have told them to be true. Nothing else exists.
Sounds like you've had an entirely unproductive couple years where you accomplished nothing beyond deceiving yourself to rationalize your resentment.
Biden knew Trump was going to act like this if he lost and had already set up his transition team months before the election. Hes been gathering swathes of data for a while. Trump's current behavior was expected and planned for.
You normally dont have to do this as the information starts being given to you when you are president-elect. But Trump has been less than forward with enough information. So Biden has to go around him to get the necessary info... which costs money
Honestly sounds like he was paying close attention. Anyone remember Day 2 of his presidency when his cultists said it had been sunny when it was raining and there were tens of millions of people at his inauguration? Day 2 and the claim is he made the sun shine and created masses of people from thin air. If that's not religious doctrine I don't know what is.(Hint: I do know what doctrine is, and that is it.)
And that was Day Fucking 2.
But then again this is the guy who said the access Hollywood tape doesn't sound like him and it wasn't him, so who knows what his cultists are willing to swallow, 'case when you're a celebrity they just let you do it. Grab them by the facts.
Weird because I'd think this would constitute mis-information as the transition doesn't normally officially begin until after the EC vote and doing stuff earlier is only done as a courtesy. But Twitter hasn't marked this as misinformation
Wait you're saying lies and threats don't matter? You really want to set that precedent to the future of politics in the USA?
Actually this is one of these cases where everyone is right..............
No really.
In some of the listen areas in I think it's Wayne county officially there's 0 registered voters on record but votes have been cast. So therefore it is technically it is more than 100% of the registered voters having vote. If this is a computer error not listing the number of registered voters or if people in other districts saw their votes sent to different areas or something I don't know however the claim is on the most technical level true according to the numbers more than 100% of registered people in some areas did vote if the reason for that is the area hasn't officially claimed they are registered due to some administrative error or if their actually were people voting there who shouldn't that's the question. Admittedly a computer error seems most likely but still worth actually looking into.
The DNC was nearly going broke that's how Hillary was able to become nominee last time by essentially taking over and giving the DNC an allowance out of campiagn funds last time. This time I have to image the DNC still isn't doing much better financially so this is am attempt to fill in the massive debt hole the DNC still has.
yeh but hasn't everyone been saying Trump's cases lack merit and are baseless so why would you have to bother fighting them when they're getting thrown out anyway?
Technically they're by Republican party membership not Trump as such. Trump's official count is 3. If you want to claim they were on behalf of Trump you'd likely be right but Trump's team weren't the specific ones behind the 25.
And of course, the media won't criticize this action. Nobody will accuse Biden of filling his own pockets they do with Trump, and any outlets they do will be branded as "alt-right".
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There's no fraud at all you say?
Limestone County Social Worker Charged With 134 Felony Counts Involving Election Fraud
Attorney General Ken Paxton today announced that his Election Fraud Unit assisted the Limestone County Sheriff and District Attorney in charging Kelly Reagan Brunner, a social worker in the Mexia State Supported Living Center (SSLC), with 134 felony counts of purportedly acting as an agent and...
www.texasattorneygeneral.gov
Here's one that failed
Would-be California mayoral candidate, another man charged with voter fraud
No votes were cast in the scheme, which allegedly involved a man trying to qualify to run for mayor of the city of Hawthorne.
This is technically another
Lindsey Graham’s Alleged Attempt to Toss Georgia Ballots Is Felony Election Fraud
If he weren’t a senator, Graham might be facing years in prison.
Which would be one on the Republican side BTW
Another attempted fraud
Michigan man facing felony charges for voter fraud, AG says
Attorney General Dana Nessel announced the charges in a Nov. 13 press release where she said her office is also issuing several cease and desist letters to entities and individuals spreading misinformation
www.mlive.com
And another charge
Orono woman charged with voter fraud after allegedly casting former roommate’s ballot
The new case was apparently motivated by “a personal dispute” rather than an effort “to influence the outcome of the election,” said Marc Malon, a spokesperson for Maine Attorney General Aaron Frey.
bangordailynews.com
Apparently another one
Charges filed in father-son voter fraud case in Chester County
EAST GOSHEN – A Willistown man’s clumsy attempt at trying to cast a false ballot in the 2020 presidential election has led to one of the only verified instances in Chester County of all…
www.dailylocal.com
And another one
Cadott man charged with election fraud
CHIPPEWA FALLS — An 89-year-old Cadott man has been charged after he allegedly attempted to obtain an absentee ballot for his deceased wife.
Also apparently another one
NJ Man Charged With Voter Fraud
A Hunterdon County man was arrested for pretending to be someone else on a mail-in ballot, authorities said Saturday.Brian C. Shilling, 53, of Stockton,
You can argue the scale of the fraud that happened as these range from about 1 vote to about 8,000 but saying there is none is incorrect.
"None" in this case is synonymous with "effectively nonexistent" and "statistically insignificant" when compared to the scale of millions of votes happening annually.
Nah, it's a pretty fair assessment of those who actually like Trump which, certainly, is not everyone who voted for the asshole.
I remember day 1, when Trump's inaugural address said:
"We are one nation – and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.
The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans."
And the response by the Democrats and the media was that the speech was "dark" and "divisive".
I remember day 2, when the White House exaggerated the crowd size and the media exaggerated it down.
I remember 4 years of misinformation that people all over (including here) still believe in fully in spite of all evidence against, but I'm not going to deny you your humanity because of it. Believing lies doesn't make you a cultist. It might make you a fool, and it might make you a victim, but's it's not more than those things. Believing lies won't make me hate you.
But you are believing untruths on this very topic. I don't know if by lies from others or just from your own imagination, but the idea that people are thoughtlessly following Trump wherever he may lead flies in the face of reality. That's not how Republicans are treating this, that's not how conservative media is treating this.
Specificity is important otherwise you can argue there were no civilian casualties caused by US forces in a number of wars because they only made up a small number of overall people killed.
You don't get to play the game both ways to only benefit and push narratives. It's deceptive at best to try and present no fraud because only some happened.
note: when I posted days after the election there was only 1 case of fraud going through courts now weeks on I can list 8 and that's without a number of mainstream sources wanting to look into or report on it
At worst it's down right cultish to keep stretching the definition of word to try and claim the deception is still accurate. Fraud happened, there was fraud by definition. Not much fraud so far shown but there was still fraud. Just because people are scared of giving an inch if Trump said it was raining and to prepare people would be standing outside in T-shirt getting soaked saying it Trump was lying just and there was no rain at all for fear of being truthful about things.
That's completely disingenuous and ignores the major context that they are claiming a MASSIVE CO-ORDINATED CONSPIRACY to steal millions of votes from the fascist try-hard.
Everyone knows what saying 'bullshit' to that means, and people have often used cases like those to show the type of fraud that does actually exist and gets exposed, in comparison to the lies these idiots are screaming.
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Reminder. Trumps words were people came to see his inauguration NOT people were at the National Mall
Important distinction.
There were reportedly more people who went to Washington that day than for Obama.
A number of them didn't make it to the Mall because of roadblock put in and roadblocks in place due to protestors.
You can argue without the protestors it might have been smaller than Obama but more people were in Washington that day.
To point out the spin with an analogy
Media: There's less Oranges on this tree than last year.
Trump: We collected more oranges from the orange tree orchard this year than last year.
You can actually that easily change the results depending on which you decide to measure. Do you want to use Trump's measurement of people who came into DC or the media's measurement of just those who made it to the national Mall and didn't end up watching on screens because they'd got stopped by roadblocks or protestors blocking roads?.
There's been so much fake news it's insane.
One of my favourites that was spread just because of how petty the story was.
FACT CHECK: Trump 'Bullies' Boy by Tossing Hat at Easter Egg Roll?
A second video from a different angle shows that the president tossed the hat back to the boy.
www.snopes.com
yes it is completely disingenuous to claim there was no fraud when there was some fraud.
You can say there was No massive co-ordinated fraud. But that's not what was being said by those against Trump they were saying there was 0 fraud. That's rhetoric not reality. If you have to use rhetoric to win then it says you're worried reality doesn't support you and Truth doesn't really matter.
Parler news app downloads surge
Parler was set up to be a nonbiased, free speech-driven platform. It is now America’s No. 1 downloaded news app.
www.usatoday.com
If you thought Facebook was bad, wait till you get Parler a Right-wing equivalent.
On one hand, this likely to be another 4chan or even 8chan in that it will be a source of right-wing racism, on the other hand, I am guessing the internet companies, or Google will clamp down on it if there is enough public outcry.
Does Fox News still count as "conservative media"? Because Tucker Ratfucker Carlson is asking Trump's legal team to put up or shut up.
You forgot your full stop.
But to actually address what you said. Any-one who feels so strongly about a capitalisation likely is only upset that it keeps turning out the truth isn't on their side lol.
Honestly. Parler is actually quite nice.Parler news app downloads surge
Parler was set up to be a nonbiased, free speech-driven platform. It is now America’s No. 1 downloaded news app.www.usatoday.com
If you thought Facebook was bad, wait till you get Parler a Right-wing equivalent.
On one hand, this likely to be another 4chan or even 8chan in that it will be a source of right-wing racism, on the other hand, I am guessing the internet companies, or Google will clamp down on it if there is enough public outcry.
It's funny because if you really wanted to point to a den of stuff that would breed conspiracy theories and other stuff you'd be better pointing to Minds
I mean clearly Parler having stuff like this such such a threat to democracy
Were all doomed, doomed I say lol.
yeh no Parler is a nice place so far and you can avoid or engage with politics all you like. There's even a few angry commies roaming round on there apparently very angry that people they have blocked on twitter and want banned from there are on parler and just carrying on ignoring them lol
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