Hello, Elliot Page
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Netflix is handling this exactly how I feel they should.
variety.com
Elliot Page Will Continue to Star in ‘Umbrella Academy,’ Netflix Changes Credits on His Past Films
Elliot Page will continue to star in 'Umbrella Academy,' as Netflix moves to change credits on actor's past films.
variety.com
And he's got support from Miley Cyrus and Kate Mara. Which is better than them opposing him, and no disrespect to them, but they aren't exactly the two I'd most want in my corner.Netflix is handling this exactly how I feel they should.
Elliot Page Will Continue to Star in ‘Umbrella Academy,’ Netflix Changes Credits on His Past Films
Elliot Page will continue to star in 'Umbrella Academy,' as Netflix moves to change credits on actor's past films.
(And I nearly misgendered him like 3 times writing that, will have to do better)
I'm not into retroactively changing credits to reflect a person's more recent name change (this Netflix series is still running so it's fine). Nobody worked with a transmasculine Elliot Page on the set of Juno or Inception. Similar to Wachowski stuff in the 00s and before. It can be interesting to look at their work and public image retrospectively though.
Stop asking awkward questions that are perfectly reasonable is the answer and you know it lol
It’s very funny that whenever a person transitions the primary response is asking what this implies about their own sexuality. Identity is a process for categorizing the other and defining the self along idealistic lines and our obsession with it is a further reflection of just how alienated we all are.
Yeah fair, it's a dumb question I was just amusing myself with because I've always been attracted to that type of unconventional non-conforming female, like he used to be.
Just seems a sad irony that that type of woman is more likely to be an lgbt type so completely uninterested in me.
But in the end I can't make another human happy so it's all moot anyway.
He wanted access to white male privilege. i wonder if cis men are worried about trans men going into their restrooms.
In this article he still refers to himself as gay, even though he's married to a woman. So here is my confusion with how all these labels work. If Elliot remained a woman, then yeah he'd be gay for loving another woman. But since Elliot believes himself to be a man now, and is still married and presumably attracted to this woman, isn't he no longer gay? Right?
Because a man loving a woman is heterosexuality. And the whole claim with transgender people is that they are whatever gender they believe themselves to be, regardless of their biology. So if Elliot says he's a man, and has always felt like a man, then he is a man. Who loves a woman, so.....not gay then. Or still gay because this man still has a vagina and his lover has a vagina too?
Honestly I'm really interested in how this is supposed to be termed as it seems to be that people can pretty much label themselves whatever they want and you are just supposed to roll with it without question.
(i posted this in another thread but never got an answer, so reposting here since it's the focus of the topic at hand)
Because a man loving a woman is heterosexuality. And the whole claim with transgender people is that they are whatever gender they believe themselves to be, regardless of their biology. So if Elliot says he's a man, and has always felt like a man, then he is a man. Who loves a woman, so.....not gay then. Or still gay because this man still has a vagina and his lover has a vagina too?
Honestly I'm really interested in how this is supposed to be termed as it seems to be that people can pretty much label themselves whatever they want and you are just supposed to roll with it without question.
(i posted this in another thread but never got an answer, so reposting here since it's the focus of the topic at hand)
Before the pandemic, I sat in several restaurants and people watched. I noted several couples of people; I wondered if some were married, were they dating, were they just friends, were they "together" as in gay, etc. Y'know what? Despite all those potentialities, my food came to the table, I ate and I left fulfilled without any answers to those "pressing" questions.
TL;DR? It doesn't matter what you call it; it exists and doesn't affect you; eat and go home.
It affects me when the LBGTQ community is pushing to have hate speech laws enacted. When a potential law goes onto the book to make it a crime to misgender someone then don't you think it better that I ask my questions now, then later when it could become a criminal offense. Such as what has begun to happen in Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_...(1) makes it,indictment or by summary process.
I'm just saying if the LBGTQ wants us to identify them correctly, then taking offense when somebody asks questions is kind of counterproductive don't you think? Oh but you see questions make sense, and we aren't supposed to understand we are just supposed to listen to the fantastical demands blindly. Which of course wouldn't breed any sort of resentment at all.
C'mon, if you struggle with "hate speech," then you're asking the wrong questions to the wrong people; ask yourself why distinct labels are so important to you or why the words you want to use might construed as offensive.
I'm going to assume you're a heterosexual male like myself; we're in the same boat, but I'm not worried about mislabeling anyone, because the worst I plan on doing is calling a woman "sir" or a man "ma'am," and correcting myself once I'm made aware of that mistake. I don't go around calling out homosexuals or trans people on those identities because it's honestly not that important to me. They're people first; what is or was between their legs, or how they identify internally despite the former, is none of my concern. The only people it should concern are doctors, people whose job it is to operate within the objective realities of the physical body; outside of that, who cares? Just saying, if you're not a hetero man, and you identify as and want me to call you a golden retriever, I apologize for my mistake and I will refer to you as a golden retriever.
I mean sorry but such laws are open to abuse. How many times has Jessica Yaniv taken people to court again?
Yaniv being pre-op and still legally on paper having not changed their identity from a legal perspective.
All it would need is one asshole like Yaniv to yell that you should have known they were a Zemself and to try to take you to court under said laws and enjoy the next up to two years of bullshit dealing with the case where even if you win you'll get a whole $2,000 in damages at best. Doesn't matter if you correct yourself after that will have to be a defence in court.
Aww, I think you’re pretty great yourself! And I’ll take that beer! Is that Prince playing on the jukebox? (*checks the beer for roofies*)Dude, I respect you. I hear what you're saying and I completely accept it. I actually think you're a great guy. If you drank, I'd buy you a beer.
... But you realize... this means War.
Ok, War Over. I surrender.