Hello, Elliot Page

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Does being attracted to a transgender male (f2m) make a cis male gay?
Its only gay if balls are touching and apparently even then there are exceptions if they are hot or have been in action movies.
 
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Okay Im going to be crass here because I want to be clear: what gender/sexual orientation of person is he trying to attract/have a relationship with?
Lets assume Elliot is gay, meaning attracted to men. Those men are themselves attracted to men. So the target demographic is gay men who are attracted to men, but are okay with a partner with a vagina.
Lets assume Elliot is straight, meaning attracted to women. Those women are themselves attracted to men. So the target demographic is straight women who are attracted to men, but are okay with a partner with a vagina.
Lets assume Elliot is keeping the 'lesbian' sexual orientation from before she transitioned into a he. So the target demographic is lesbian women, who want to date a male, but are also attracted to a vagina.

It seems like a lot of paperwork and loops to jump through in terms of identification, consent, courtship, etc...
Honestly who cares? That's between them and whoever they bone down with. Here's the thing, almost everything I say or think about trans people is informed entirely by what I've heard trans people say.

To be totally honest, I don't really get it. I don't know what it means to "feel" male, I just am a male. I don't actually understand how any of it works. I just have enough faith in people that they know themselves better than I know them and I know I don't need to have strong feelings about everything. So fuck it, live and let live. I don't want to be an asshole, I want to treat people with respect. I mean I'll do my best to understand but honestly it's nobody's job to make me understand so I just go with accepting.
 

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yes but that's not the issue in your self admitted, crass post. You started asking things like "what kind of person is he trying to attract?" which 1. Isn't really your business. 2. Has nothing to do with the announcement. You started implying it was going to be like some kind of job interview to establish dating routines. My point is who cares? Since you aren't the one being dated, it really doesn't matter at all for you or me. And whoever Page is attracted to, of whatever orientation and attraction, if it's mutual, then they can just get to fucking, and they don't need to worry about checking off any boxes on a spreadsheet or whatever.
Well you say they don't need to worry about the check boxes and spreadsheets, but what if they do?
 

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Well you say they don't need to worry about the check boxes and spreadsheets, but what if they do?
Then they can take it up with Page if that's an issue for them, and they can hash that out, or just not have a relationship. And it's still not my business. I mean nothing is going to be solved about the ups and downs about relationships in general, much less the extra layers of complexity for LGBTQ on a fucking gaming forum, so it's basically just stupid comments that inform and/or solve nothing.
 
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To be honest, defined sexuality seems pretty meaningless in a world where futanari exists. I mean I really don't care at this point, just curious on the technicalities.
Oh, a degen extraordinaire.
A fellow degenerate, unfortunately.
 
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I think Inception was pretty big wasn't it?
Yeah he was in that, and several other big budget titles, like the last 2 XMen films, so it's hardly like he just did Juno and then fell off the radar. I did forget about Inception and him being in it though. It's odd, I forget about that film a lot, despite having loved the hell out of it. Dream themed films are like crack for me, and that film was all about dream stuff. But...yeah just don't remember much detail about it.
 

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Does this mean that somebody's going to have to change Ellen Page to Elliot Page in the Inception end credits?
 

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Isn't really your business.
Honestly who cares?
I would think that if you want acceptance, then understanding is a prerequisite to that. Telling people to shove off because it's none of their business, and that they shouldn't care doesn't help.

"We don't like what we don't understand; in fact it scares us!" - Beauty and the Beast
 

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Do you disagree that hostility and ignorance are often linked?
They are of course. But you could just not be hostile. I dunno, when I was a kid a guy named Eddie moved away and years later came back after transitioning and was named aleesha and nobody batted an eye at it. She was just accepted. I was a child. At 30 I don't understand so I definitely didn't understand at 8. Didn't need to understand. Trying to understand is noble but it's not a prerequisite for respect. Why do people need to have strong opinions on everything? You don't know or understand most things. Practically 100% of things actually.
 

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They are of course. But you could just not be hostile.
That might work for an individual, but politely asking millions of people not to be hostile towards any given idea has never worked in the history of the world.
What has worked is education.

Ya gotta think big.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it" - Men In Black
 

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Meh, sorry, bud; can't follow. The man was unabashedly "sexual," but I never found him "sexy."
Dude, I respect you. I hear what you're saying and I completely accept it. I actually think you're a great guy. If you drank, I'd buy you a beer.

... But you realize... this means War.



Ok, War Over. I surrender.
 
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Oh, a degen extraordinaire.
A fellow degenerate, unfortunately.
That might work for an individual, but politely asking millions of people not to be hostile towards any given idea has never worked in the history of the world.
What has worked is education.

Ya gotta think big.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it" - Men In Black
So how would knowing the miniscule details of how genderbenders navigate their sexual encounters help those people in this context?
If not knowing those details inspires them to violence they were always going to react violently to something they dont understand and are just looking for an excuse
 

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So how would knowing the miniscule details of how genderbenders navigate their sexual encounters help those people in this context?
Less ignorance leads to more understanding. More understanding leads to more acceptance.