You're assuming that children know exactly what they want, who they are, and are willing to commit and stick to something that could be a lifelong change.
Oh but they do all the time, it doesn't matter if you say they are incapable the truth of the matter is that they do, they're asked to choose careers, they're asked to decide what their sexuality as and as I've mentioned being cis in and of itself is a decision maybe one you didn't give any thought to, but you know if people had told me it was OK to not be whatever and that I could delay the problem I would have done that, to have more time to think about it by getting hormonal blockers, if it had been considered acceptable I would have gone to a psychological expert to know if what I was experience was simply sheer insanity, since I've never really thought of my body as a part of me, it's more like a car that I drive, or if maybe I could be something else.
Did you ever change your mind about anything as a teenager? I did, and I know my teenage friends did. Some of them said they were lesbians, and now they're happily married to men. I knew a guy who said he was a woman trapped in a man's body, and now he's happily masculine and married to a woman.
Yes, but ironically regarding sexuality and gender I was straight up lying, because I knew that whatever the fuck I was wasn't normal and probably wrong and I was probably insane, but how I felt never changed just how I decided how to express it and how much I understand it, but you know one of the most important decisions of my life I made it when I was 15, it changed everything it decided every aspect of who I am today, and yes it changed over time but it changed for the better I guess.
Not that you fucking suburbanites would understand jack-shit but I had to choose whether to kill or not kill someone, I chose not to but I did it for the wrong reasons, but that decision has changed everything, it made me consider empathy, it made me think of what it truly means to live and work with other people, it probably prevented me from going to jail and I still think about it all the time, I still feel guilty as hell and like a piece of shit because I know I was willing to kill someone.
The truth of the matter is that all you people are saying is fucking bullshit, you totally make important life-changing decisions as kid and that's fine sometimes you'll be wrong, sometimes right, stopping kids from making decisions is simply an ignorant delusion from a cult to subservience that isn't even a real thing, it's an illusion.
Are you talking about how things work in Mexico, or how things work in the US?
In México and the UK, extensive psychological evaluations are required for the treatment, I don't know about the USA, but it's how I'd suggest handling it, not just doing the medical treatment but also extensive psychological evaluation for it.
Find a consistant method of determining if someone is trans that isn't just "Because they say so". Until then the best thing to do is NOT mess with the bodies of children who may very well not be trans but are being influenced by society. People like me, autistic people, are particularly at risk of naively following what people say. People are saying children's parents should spend thousands of dollars doing all sorts of tampering with the body of their children for no other reason than that they SAY they are another gender.
Again how are you a man, how do you know?
If you woke up in the body of a woman, would you be comfortable with that and now be a woman even if your thoughts and memories remain as they are right now?
Like, honestly the same questions your asking as to how anyone knows they're trans I extend to cis people, HOW?!
And if we're talking about subservience to what people say, aren't you making that same argument?
Aren't you just telling people what they are without leaving them a choice?
Couldn't it be argued that the brainwashing is actually being done by cis-normativity?
What sets your argument appart from mine?
I don't understand.
See, back in my day we looked at what was between someone's legs and were like, "Yep, that's a boy." and when I was growing up I was being taught by progressives that it didn't matter if you were a girl or boy, you should act or do whatever you want to. Now we got this hypocritical about face saying, no, if you act this way or "feel" this way then you're a woman/man.
So why does it matter what genitals someone has?
Like I realise that part of it is that I have never understood the appeal of sex or why people like it or crave it, like even after engaging in it voluntarily I still don't get it, but I very much fail to understand why the genitalia one possesses should be important to any degree when determining how one has to act, dress or generally present themselves, why are genitals important?
So you are in favor of children fucking up their bodies before puberty. Yeah we don't let kids vote because they don't have the capacity to comprehend the grand scope of things. They can't grasp the geo-political status of the entire country and you wanna argue that they have the forethought enough to make drastic and damaging life altering decisions that they can never reverse?
Yeah okay then. That makes sense. Let's give them the right to smoke, drink, and buy guns too.
As the video I links above suggests, as well as may other studies about peer pressure and anyone with older brothers and sisters can tell you, kids are very very easily pushed into any social behavior you want for them. Especially true for prepubescents kids. So the idea that offering a child who doesn't and can't possibly know any better puberty blockers to promote transgenderism is insanity.
And if such a thought, that CHILDREN shouldn't have their natural puberties fucked with makes me transphobic, then I will proudly wear the transphobic flag.
Again, my points have been made and I'll argue that the peer pressure goes both ways and far more in favour of cis-normative society than it is for progressive ideology, ironically the thing that would make the most sense and remove those elements of peer pressure would be to make gender roles in society completely irrelevant, if we stop equating the colour pink, long hair, skirts, make up and such to women and allow men to wear them freely without any judgement then the pressure to be trans if you are a man interested in those things would be greatly reduced, the same could be said for sports, pants, tuxedos and gruffness.
But yes I agree with you, the problem is that there is too much peer pressure to be something in society, as someone that can't really think of themselves as really anything at all I find this to be horribly disgusting, the solutions is to stop pressuring people to be men or women and just let them be.
Well then if that's so important, if children can make decisions, then again answer my fucking questions.
How did you know you were cis?
When did you know it?
If people had told you all your life that you are something you're not, how would you feel about it?
If you were to magically become "opposite" gender (As if that's a thing) would you be what it's expected of that gender or would you continue to be yourself?
