I wouldn't call what is the current system of the United States to being "working out fine". Both parties are driving us off the "cliff", one of them is just going like 30mph and the other is going like 29mph. They both absolutely suck, I don't get why anyone defends either of them besides wanting to go off that cliff 1mph slower.
Or, hear me out, nature tries to push people off the cliff, and society tries in all different ways to avoid that, and some gratitude for people's efforts is justified, rather than everyone blaming the party they don't like for natural disasters.
Pretty sure tstorm823 would have just as much problem blaming the rest of the culprits-- fanatical devotion to capitalism and maintaining the class structure.
I mean I've literally seen him say that "communism" would not solve the pandemic response (even despite PRC and Vietnam and other socialist places having WAAAAAAAY better COVID stats), so
You're currently actively blaming capitalism for a pandemic, and then projecting your own fanaticism onto me.
Imagine you're part of a team.
Back at you: imagine you're part of a team, and for ease of analogy I'll make it a school project. Like a semester long senior project. And there's one part of your assigned group who really sucks. He just does nothing and is an anchor on the group. But in the end, the rest of you manage to put together a good project despite being effectively down a person. And then the professor doesn't even look at your work and fails you preemptively because he knows that one guy sucks and figures there's no way the final submission is worth reading.
That's what you're doing: your prejudging the entire government based on your opinion of Trump, and not even considering the actual results.
There are also estimates such as excess deaths: the CDC put this at 300k by early October. That being consistent, >320k seems a very reasonable estimate.
Ok, but subtract from that 300k the at least 100k additional deaths from solitude, overdoses, suicides, delayed healthcare... the secondary effects of the lockdowns have been as harsh as the pandemic itself. And most of those lockdown policies were done against federal guidance. Despite the ridiculous caricature people have made of it, the US in many places locked down harsher than the rest of the world, and in frankly stupid ways. Speaking of which:
We can perhaps be thankful that the federal system in the USA enabled many governors to take action independently of the federal government.
LOL, no. Those freaking governors killed thousands of people by ignoring the CDC, whose guidance was much closer to what other countries have done, and was ignored because harsher restrictions were good optics apparently.
I think we should try to avoid citing developing countries against developed for this sort of precision of comparison, because the likelihood is that they do not have systems adequate to report reliable estimates. Chances are many may be dying of covid mostly without meaningful documentation. On the other hand Vietnam clearly does seem to be handling covid-19 well compared to the USA in a general sense.
Lack of meaningful documentation is huge, but so is circumstance. Obesity, heart disease, diabetes are all contributing factors that the US has problems with. Vitamin D deficiency is a problem in the US moreso than Vietnam. Vietnam has a dramatically younger population than the US. Like, I could plan a country to have perfect covid response by slaughtering everyone over 65 before the pandemic begins and we wouldn't exactly count that as a win.
It takes a really, really obsessed mind to suggest capitalism is the meaningful difference here.