Honestly everyone, just ignore the loud fart knocking in the wind. That's the best option.
A few thoughts about January 6, 2021
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I get it feels fun and like we're striking a blow for reason when we engage certain individuals. But we're not. Even proving one of these people wrong isn't the end goal for them.
They just want to stay current. They just want to be apart of the conversation because someone, anyone might latch onto it. They'll use 'facts' when they think it can keep the conversation going, but ignore anything that pokes holes in their theories.
Case in Point.
www.independent.co.uk
www.refinery29.com
This individual will argue that it's unreasonable for one person to receive death threats for simply doing their job and having a different opinion for their entirety of their tenure in office to assume a mass of crazed individuals would be there for her. This is the man you're choosing to waste your time with.
Brawlman is so right. Feeding the Trolls only makes them bigger. And it takes up more and more of our time.
They just want to stay current. They just want to be apart of the conversation because someone, anyone might latch onto it. They'll use 'facts' when they think it can keep the conversation going, but ignore anything that pokes holes in their theories.
Case in Point.
I had to take off a certain individual again to see what this is about, and the response Seanchaidh created was in response to the notion that it was unreasonable to assume the crowd chanting "Hang Mike Pence", "Shoot Him with his own Gun", "Kill Pelosi", and the rest... well, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Or you didn't hear your specific name, so you're not in any real danger. Where they yelled" Traitors to the Guillotine", but that won't mean HER necessarily.
AOC's staff perform risk assessments of all visitors after numerous death threats
The Congresswoman also receives dozens of fans visiting her office daily
www.independent.co.uk
It's Not Surprising AOC Gets Death Threats — But It's Worse Than Anyone Could Imagine
Many connected to the freshman lawmaker have received death threats for their affiliation with her. The abuse has spread to her mother, her young brother, the designer of AOC’s campaign posters, and even her former dean at Boston University.
Brawlman is so right. Feeding the Trolls only makes them bigger. And it takes up more and more of our time.
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She should fear the mob as much as any other politician should fear the mob, and as much as any cop or business owner should fear BLM. In all cases, those mobs had general targets that they vented their anger on.
But if that mob has no idea where you are, and never comes close to you, the fear is only theoretical. It is not real. It is not a clear and present danger. It is not a credible threat.
It would be like if, say, BLM set a dumpster on fire at my place of work (they did). I can't rightly claim to have almost burned to death when I was safely at home, miles away from any rioting. I would be viewed as a grifter who is just trying to score sympathy points, wouldn't I? Anyone who believes or defends me would be viewed as gullible, wouldn't they?
No, she gets a fair few more death threats than most Congresspersons. Ilhan Omar probably and Rashida Tlaib possibly have her beat, but that would be about it. Maybe Nancy Pelosi, I guess.
No and wtf
I mean this is coming from someone who believes BLM literally burnt entire cities to the ground.
No doubt she does. Every public figure should be getting death threats if they're doing their job right.
But the issue here is: Was AOC's life in danger? Was she right to claim that she was "almost murdered"?
The answer is no to both.
The mob was nowhere near her. They never breached her building.
She's just claiming battle scars that she has no right to claim. She's playing it up for sympathy.
You're defending a lying politician and partisanship is blinding you from seeing this simple truth.
Quote me saying that, or buzz off.
It was in the same city and breached the Capitol building, a place you would expect would be pretty well tied down with security. The mob overcame that.
Now, whether or not she said she was almost murdered-- I haven't watched her statement, so I don't know-- it would be reasonable for her to think she was almost murdered in a broader sense. A violent mob overran the security of her workplace (which is, again, where fucking legislation is passed in the seat of government of the United Fucking States) looking for, among others, her. She is absolutely correct to feel that her life was in peril on that day.
No, I'm actually somewhat cross with her right now for unrelated reasons, though the bullshit you're pushing is helping to simmer that down.
So?
"It would be like if, say, BLM set a dumpster on fire at my place of work (they did). I can't rightly claim to have almost burned to death when I was safely at home, miles away from any rioting."
So? It still wasn't the building she was in.
Breaching security or a breakdown of law and order in one location does not mean anything for other locations.
BLM set the dumpster on fire at my office. I was almost burned alive despite not even being there. This is a reasonable claim to make, according to you.
I disagree, for the reasons already given.
You know, at my former job, we had a two towers kind of setup for our office buildings. They were connected via the skyway (so I guess tunnels in the sky rather than underground tunnels; you had to be inside the tower and therefore past security to get to them).
I feel like if hundreds of people (many armed, many wearing tactical gear, and many shouting "Death to all who work at this place"), I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be sitting in my tower as I watch all these people storm the tower across the street from me. Especially since many of these people specifically are targeting people who work here named Tippy and people who think like Tippy.
But hey...they didn't storm MY tower, why am I being so worried?
I feel like if hundreds of people (many armed, many wearing tactical gear, and many shouting "Death to all who work at this place"), I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be sitting in my tower as I watch all these people storm the tower across the street from me. Especially since many of these people specifically are targeting people who work here named Tippy and people who think like Tippy.
But hey...they didn't storm MY tower, why am I being so worried?
If people were storming a Federal building and not planning to get arrested for it, they should at least not take and post selfies of themselves doing it.
We are dealing with complete and utter imbeciles here. There was no forethought; there was no thought at all. Trump just riled them up and pointed them at his enemies.
You're not being reasonable.
People correctly said they almost died on 9/11/2001 when they slept in and consequently were absent from their jobs at the World Trade Center. Just accept that you are wrong.
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Okay so they didn't plan to kill AOC, which would have required planning, and thus, her life wasn't in danger. Thanks.
Gotta love the over 9000 level of projection. Well done!
But you forget. If someone lights a dumpster next to said tower, you should automatically be equally as scared. There is no possibile way to see that as different
Has anyone posted this?
Because if not, it should have been. It's very interesting.
Because if not, it should have been. It's very interesting.
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At least you're finally admitting how disingenuous your arguments are.
The Leader of the Proud Boys is an FBI informant! In addition to the dumb asses being stupid enough to post their crimes on social media, that was how the FBI was so well informed.
At best they're arguing with a troll, at worst a fascist.I get it feels fun and like we're striking a blow for reason when we engage certain individuals. But we're not. Even proving one of these people wrong isn't the end goal for them.
They just want to stay current. They just want to be apart of the conversation because someone, anyone might latch onto it. They'll use 'facts' when they think it can keep the conversation going, but ignore anything that pokes holes in their theories.
Case in Point.
I had to take off a certain individual again to see what this is about, and the response Seanchaidh created was in response to the notion that it was unreasonable to assume the crowd chanting "Hang Mike Pence", "Shoot Him with his own Gun", "Kill Pelosi", and the rest... well, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Or you didn't hear your specific name, so you're not in any real danger. Where they yelled" Traitors to the Guillotine", but that won't mean HER necessarily.
AOC's staff perform risk assessments of all visitors after numerous death threats
The Congresswoman also receives dozens of fans visiting her office dailyThis individual will argue that it's unreasonable for one person to receive death threats for simply doing their job and having a different opinion for their entirety of their tenure in office to assume a mass of crazed individuals would be there for her. This is the man you're choosing to waste your time with.It's Not Surprising AOC Gets Death Threats — But It's Worse Than Anyone Could Imagine
Many connected to the freshman lawmaker have received death threats for their affiliation with her. The abuse has spread to her mother, her young brother, the designer of AOC’s campaign posters, and even her former dean at Boston University.
Brawlman is so right. Feeding the Trolls only makes them bigger. And it takes up more and more of our time.