A few thoughts about January 6, 2021

[Avnger]

Then why didn't they storm her office?

Because they're morons?

Literally only a moron would be taking part in a coup supporting Donald "stable genius" Trump.
Literally only a moron would believe the election was stolen despite the empirical proof otherwise.
Literally only a moron would believe in QAnon.

 

[Houseman]

Because they're morons?

Or, alternately, because her life was never in danger. If people were planning to kill someone else, they should at least know where her office is. That's a much more reasonable explanation that doesn't require one to do mental gymnastics in order to justify it.

 

[Revnak]

Then why didn't they storm her office?

“Then why didn’t they steal all of Trump’s votes?”

Edit: The obvious answer is they assumed she’d be in the room they were told all the people they had to stop were, but hey, let’s all just deny a bunch of dudes with guns and a stated desire to kill her stormed the Capitol and instead split as many hairs as humanly possible to make her look bad because “lol, false ironic detachment.”

 

[ObsidianJones]

Because they're morons?

Literally only a moron would be taking part in a coup supporting Donald "stable genius" Trump.
Literally only a moron would believe the election was stolen despite the empirical proof otherwise.
Literally only a moron would believe in QAnon.

Nah, there's nothing here. We can't take anyone at their words if they are Republicans. They are always talking in Code that we just don't understand.

When minorities get arrested and charge, we always have to look at the past and realize they are capable of anything so we take that threat for whatever we dream it up.

But a man who commits brazen crimes, who is in among the throngs of people who were chanting Hang Mike Pence, or those looking to string up Representatives for the Gallows... we have to not presume anything.

Be more understanding. Don't trust your lying ears or eyes.

 

[tstorm823]

To be clear, I heard the clip of AOC describing her experience, and she suggested she hid behind a bathroom door while people stormed her personal offices few feet away.

 

[Revnak]

Or, alternately, because her life was never in danger. If people were planning to kill someone else, they should at least know where her office is. That's a much more reasonable explanation that doesn't require one to do mental gymnastics in order to justify it.

There was never a putsch. Never any danger. They just wanted to say hello! Their screams to hang Mike Pence, to kill Pelosi, etc, that was all just an inside joke! The guy with all the zip tie handcuffs was just really into bondage.

 

[Houseman]

Edit: The obvious answer is they assumed she’d be in the room they were told all the people they had to stop were, but hey, let’s all just deny a bunch of dudes with guns and a stated desire to kill her stormed the Capitol and instead split as many hairs as humanly possible to make her look bad because “lol, false ironic detachment.”

"dudes with guns"
but not a single shot fired.

"explicitly planned to kill her"
but they didn't even take the time to find out where she would be.


Mental gymnastics in order to defend a lying politician just because she's (D) instead of (R).

 

[Revnak]

"dudes with guns"
but not a single shot fired.

"explicitly planned to kill her"
but they didn't even take the time to find out where she would be.


Mental gymnastics in order to defend a lying politician just because she's (D) instead of (R).

Their failure doesn’t imply they didn’t try. Humorously, your argument was part of the defense of Hitler’s Beerhall Putsch.

 

[Houseman]

Their failure doesn’t imply they didn’t try

Their lack of trying implies that they didn't try.

Humorously, your argument was part of the defense of Hitler’s Beerhall Putsch.

And your arguments seem like the ones used to prop up the Enabling Act.

 

[Revnak]

Their lack of trying implies that they didn't try.

Day of, the gun and zip tie guy is enough evidence to show that intent from some of the guys there, let alone the amount of information released since showing a clear intent to storm the Capitol, block off escapes, and take as many hostages as possible while murdering the worst “traitors.” There’s clear planning and stated intent all over the released social media information for multiple guilty parties. Your willful ignorance is based all on one key factor. You’re a fascist.

 

[Houseman]

Day of, the gun and zip tie guy is enough evidence to show that intent from some of the guys there, let alone the amount of information released since showing a clear intent to storm the Capitol, block off escapes, and take as many hostages as possible while murdering the worst “traitors.” There’s clear planning and stated intent all over the released social media information for multiple guilty parties. Your willful ignorance is based all on one key factor. You’re a fascist.

"There's overwhelming evidence!"
"May I see it?"
"No"

And all of this is an attempt to change the subject away from the fact that AOC lied.

 

[Revnak]

"There's overwhelming evidence!"
"May I see it?"
"No"

I’m pretty confident everything I mentioned has been posted in this thread, but the dude saying to kill AOC is, uh, four posts up. Tunnels get mentioned in the WSJ article below along with the plan to gas people in them. There’s definitely pics of zip tie guy all over.

Redirect Notice

 

[Revnak]

And your arguments seem like the ones used to prop up the Enabling Act.

I’ve never argued in favor of any kind of emergency powers to deal with this crisis, nor would I ever.

 

[Revnak]

And all of this is an attempt to change the subject away from the fact that AOC lied.

The reverse. All of this to distract from your support for a fascist insurrection.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Guys, you're doing it again.

 

[Revnak]

Guys, you're doing it again.

I REFUSE TO LEARN ANYTHING EVER

 

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[Kwak]

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Found a new talking point memo on the donald have you? Godspeed brave soldier, show them dirty liberals.

 

[Houseman]

About a week ago you said in another thread that you don't know much about history.

And then someone told me about the Beer Hall Putsch, and I looked that up and the other events in Nazi history, which led me to the Enabling Act and the Reichstag fire.

You should stick to that line of reasoning because the Enabling Act came about because someone actually burned down the Reichstag. As such it has no relevance to Revnak's argument, which is about how we should judge these kinds of acts based on their intent and not the ineptitude of the perpetrators.

Well, Revnak denied the accusation that he is in favor of restrictions of freedoms based on the storming of the Capitol, but he is still not willing to call a liar out for what she is because of the storming of the Capitol, so he's still using it as a excuse. I still think it fits as much as the Beer Hall comparison.

For example, some of the senators and congressmen immediately used it as an excuse to switch their stance on objecting to the electors.

But you can use current evidence to try and claim that they had malicious intent towards her all you want, the fact is that, at the time, AOC, in a separate building, wouldn't have known about those motivations, or zip-tie-guy. Unless, you're saying, she knew all this was going to happen...

 

[Seanchaidh]

But you can use current evidence to try and claim that they had malicious intent towards her all you want, the fact is that, at the time, AOC, in a separate building, wouldn't have known about those motivations, or zip-tie-guy. Unless, you're saying, she knew all this was going to happen...

She would be entirely correct to fear a right-wing mob whether she knew specifically of the zip ties, the gallows, and the bombs, or not.